Hi all, Thought I'd share this with you. Check out Figure 2. This is shocking, although, sadly, not suprising at all: http://www.wfu.edu/~masicaej/MasicampoLalandeInPressQJEP.pdf E. J. Masicampo & Daniel R. Lalande (2012). A peculiar prevalence of p values just below .05. The Quarterly Journal of Experimental Psychology, 2 aug 2012 Regards, Albert-Jan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
very interesting.
the authors said Often, exact p values were not reportedI wonder if the results would have varied if the authors had used a slightly different approach. 1) used 3 searchers consistently and/or used computer aided text processing to locate the p or test stats. (Were tests reported without p's?) 2) recorded test values(F, t, r, etc.) and df a numbers as well as the original reported values as a string. 3) then used a single package's p routines so that a) p finding algorithm, b) rounding, and c) interval coarsening were done consistently. e.g., CDF.* 4) spot eye-balled the string p to the recalculated p. 5) it might also be interesting to systematically look at the printed p and the recalculated p. wrt #3 it is astonishing how often people find their p-value by eyeballing a table. I wonder how people on this list would apply what is known in psychology as the "so what test" to the size of the discrepancy in p. Something analogous to the "so what test" we apply to effect sizes. P.S. If I had been a reviewer for this as a submitted article I would have suggested that the editor reject until revised at least up to step 3. Art Kendall Social Research ConsultantsOn 8/18/2012 4:21 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
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