Binary DV + Categorical IVs

[zstatman]

I have a binary DV outcome set as a 1 for 'yes' and 0 for 'no' based on
about 100 cases per applicant for 3 factors for which 1 is under 6 different
scenarios then I have a group indicator and the stimulation type. My
objective is a model to determine the affect on the DV considering the set
of 3 factors.

Thus, each applicant has about 100 observations that is split based on
scenario within group (a or b), this combination has a stimulus attached to
it. So, subject "ABC" for scenario "length in line" in group "A" was
presented stimulus "XYZ." If a reaction occurred then the outcome is a '1'
else a '0'. Hope this is clear?

I am eyeing a linear mixed repeated measures model but the binary DV gives
me pause.

Any suggestions are welcome

Tks
W

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[Reutter, Alex]

There currently is no procedure for running a logistic regression with random effects; if you have repeated measurements, you can run Generalized Estimating Equations (GENLIN) with a dichotomous DV.

Alex


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Sara House wrote on Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:13AM

BTW, does anyone know if there is a way to do mixed model analyses with dichotomous data in SPSS?  I don't have access to SAS at work and I'm more familiar with SPSS anyway.

Sara

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Subject: Binary DV + Categorical IVs

I have a binary DV outcome set as a 1 for 'yes' and 0 for 'no' based on
about 100 cases per applicant for 3 factors for which 1 is under 6 different
scenarios then I have a group indicator and the stimulation type. My
objective is a model to determine the affect on the DV considering the set
of 3 factors.

Thus, each applicant has about 100 observations that is split based on
scenario within group (a or b), this combination has a stimulus attached to
it. So, subject "ABC" for scenario "length in line" in group "A" was
presented stimulus "XYZ." If a reaction occurred then the outcome is a '1'
else a '0'. Hope this is clear?

I am eyeing a linear mixed repeated measures model but the binary DV gives
me pause.

Any suggestions are welcome

Tks
W

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[Burleson,Joseph A.]

The HLM software supports the use of random effects logistic regression.

Joe Burleson

-----Original Message-----
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Reutter, Alex
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Binary DV + Categorical IVs

There currently is no procedure for running a logistic regression with
random effects; if you have repeated measurements, you can run
Generalized Estimating Equations (GENLIN) with a dichotomous DV.

Alex


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sara House wrote on Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:13AM

BTW, does anyone know if there is a way to do mixed model analyses with
dichotomous data in SPSS?  I don't have access to SAS at work and I'm
more familiar with SPSS anyway.

Sara

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Statmanz
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:36 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Binary DV + Categorical IVs

I have a binary DV outcome set as a 1 for 'yes' and 0 for 'no' based on
about 100 cases per applicant for 3 factors for which 1 is under 6
different
scenarios then I have a group indicator and the stimulation type. My
objective is a model to determine the affect on the DV considering the
set
of 3 factors.

Thus, each applicant has about 100 observations that is split based on
scenario within group (a or b), this combination has a stimulus attached
to
it. So, subject "ABC" for scenario "length in line" in group "A" was
presented stimulus "XYZ." If a reaction occurred then the outcome is a
'1'
else a '0'. Hope this is clear?

I am eyeing a linear mixed repeated measures model but the binary DV
gives
me pause.

Any suggestions are welcome

Tks
W

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[Swank, Paul R]

As does MLWin and SAS.

Paul R. Swank, Ph.D.
Professor and Director of Research
Children's Learning Institute
University of Texas Health Science Center - Houston


-----Original Message-----
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Burleson,Joseph A.
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Binary DV + Categorical IVs

The HLM software supports the use of random effects logistic regression.

Joe Burleson

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Reutter, Alex
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:04 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Binary DV + Categorical IVs

There currently is no procedure for running a logistic regression with
random effects; if you have repeated measurements, you can run
Generalized Estimating Equations (GENLIN) with a dichotomous DV.

Alex


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sara House wrote on Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:13AM

BTW, does anyone know if there is a way to do mixed model analyses with
dichotomous data in SPSS?  I don't have access to SAS at work and I'm
more familiar with SPSS anyway.

Sara

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Statmanz
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:36 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Binary DV + Categorical IVs

I have a binary DV outcome set as a 1 for 'yes' and 0 for 'no' based on
about 100 cases per applicant for 3 factors for which 1 is under 6
different
scenarios then I have a group indicator and the stimulation type. My
objective is a model to determine the affect on the DV considering the
set
of 3 factors.

Thus, each applicant has about 100 observations that is split based on
scenario within group (a or b), this combination has a stimulus attached
to
it. So, subject "ABC" for scenario "length in line" in group "A" was
presented stimulus "XYZ." If a reaction occurred then the outcome is a
'1'
else a '0'. Hope this is clear?

I am eyeing a linear mixed repeated measures model but the binary DV
gives
me pause.

Any suggestions are welcome

Tks
W

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