CTABLES birth?
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Hi there, does anybody know which SPSS version or in which year CTABLES was intoduced for the first time? Probably in the nineties!? I'm currently writing a course for colleagues and this information might be interesting. Thanks for any help! Mario
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CTABLES was introduced in SPSS 11.5 more
than 12 years ago and has been enhanced a few times since then.
Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim Senior Software Engineer, IBM [hidden email] phone: 720-342-5621 From: Mario Giesel <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Date: 10/21/2015 07:46 AM Subject: [SPSSX-L] CTABLES birth? Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> Hi there, does anybody know which SPSS version or in which year CTABLES was intoduced for the first time? Probably in the nineties!? I'm currently writing a course for colleagues and this information might be interesting. Thanks for any help! Mario ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to LISTSERV@...(not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Great, Jon, thank you very much! Mario Jon K Peck <[hidden email]> schrieb am 16:09 Mittwoch, 21.Oktober 2015: CTABLES was introduced in SPSS 11.5 more
than 12 years ago and has been enhanced a few times since then. Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim Senior Software Engineer, IBM [hidden email] phone: 720-342-5621 From: Mario Giesel <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Date: 10/21/2015 07:46 AM Subject: [SPSSX-L] CTABLES birth? Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> Hi there, does anybody know which SPSS version or in which year CTABLES was intoduced for the first time? Probably in the nineties!? I'm currently writing a course for colleagues and this information might be interesting. Thanks for any help! Mario ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email](not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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Info on when enhancements occurred can be found in the the FM (under Introduction > Release History). From my v23 FM:
CTABLES Release 13.0 - HSUBTOTAL keyword introduced on the CATEGORIES subcommand. Release 14.0 - INCLUDEMRSETS keyword introduced on the SIGTEST and COMPARETEST subcommands. - CATEGORIES keyword introduced on the SIGTEST and COMPARETEST subcommands. - MEANSVARIANCE keyword introduced on the COMPARETEST subcommand. Release 18.0 - MERGE keyword introduced on the COMPARETEST subcommand. - PCOMPUTE and PPROPERTIES subcommands introduced. Release 19.0 - HIDESMALLCOUNTS subcommand introduced.
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Thanks, Bruce!
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Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> schrieb am 17:11 Mittwoch, 21.Oktober 2015: Info on when enhancements occurred can be found in the the FM (under Introduction > Release History). From my v23 FM: CTABLES Release 13.0 - HSUBTOTAL keyword introduced on the CATEGORIES subcommand. Release 14.0 - INCLUDEMRSETS keyword introduced on the SIGTEST and COMPARETEST subcommands. - CATEGORIES keyword introduced on the SIGTEST and COMPARETEST subcommands. - MEANSVARIANCE keyword introduced on the COMPARETEST subcommand. Release 18.0 - MERGE keyword introduced on the COMPARETEST subcommand. - PCOMPUTE and PPROPERTIES subcommands introduced. Release 19.0 - HIDESMALLCOUNTS subcommand introduced. Mario Giesel wrote > Great, Jon, thank you very much! > Mario > > > Jon K Peck < > [hidden email] > > schrieb am 16:09 Mittwoch, 21.Oktober 2015: > > > > > CTABLES was introduced in SPSS 11.5 morethan 12 years ago and has been > enhanced a few times since then. > > > Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim > Senior Software Engineer, IBM > [hidden email] > phone: 720-342-5621 > > > > > From: Mario Giesel < > spss.giesel@ > > > To: > [hidden email] > Date: 10/21/2015 07:46 AM > Subject: [SPSSX-L] CTABLESbirth? > Sent by: "SPSSX(r)Discussion" < > [hidden email] > > > > > > Hi there, > > does anybody know which SPSS version orin which year CTABLES was intoduced > for the first time? > Probably in the nineties!? > I'm currently writing a course for colleaguesand this information might be > interesting. > > Thanks for any help! > Mario > ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L,send a > message to > [hidden email] > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the > list,send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage > subscriptions,send the command INFO REFCARD > > =====================To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a > message > [hidden email] > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except thecommand. To leave the list, > send the commandSIGNOFF SPSSX-LFor a list of commands to manage > subscriptions, send the commandINFO REFCARD > > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD ----- -- Bruce Weaver [hidden email] http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/ "When all else fails, RTFM." NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly. To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above. -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/CTABLES-birth-tp5730810p5730813.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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In reply to this post by Mario Giesel
And before there were mult response tables, if I remember well.
- Regards Frank Thomas On 21/10/2015 15:44, Mario Giesel wrote: > Hi there, > > does anybody know which SPSS version or in which year CTABLES was > intoduced for the first time? > Probably in the nineties!? > I'm currently writing a course for colleagues and this information might > be interesting. > > Thanks for any help! > Mario > ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a > message to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the > list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage > subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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In reply to this post by Jon K Peck
To be a little more specific: Tables was
an add-on to the SPSS base
system and a separate manual was made
available for it (I own a
version 8.0 manual). A "SPSS Tables
11.5" manual was published
in 2002 and there is some info about it on
books.google.com; see:
Unfortunately, there is no preview mode or
even snippet view
provided for this volume on Google.
However, a general Google
search may allow one to find a PDF version of
this volume --
not that I recommend anyone do so and engage
in a copyright
violation -- and the first chapter briefly
reviews the transformation
of TABLES to CTABLES (a program for converting TABLE
syntax to CTABLE syntax was also available).
The TABLES
add-on was first offered, I believe back in
the early 1980s;
it was available as an add-on to the mainframe
SPSS-X program.
-Mike Palij
New York University
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I first came across SPSS in ver 10 and learned to love TABLES. A period of many years of non use of SPSS passed. I have to say that CTABLES seems cumberson by comparison. Perhpas I'm just out of practice. So, why was TABLES dropped in favour of CTABLES, does anyone know?
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As far as I remember with CTABLES you are much more flexible considering the appearance of the table you create. TABLES had a richer functionality than CROSSTABS but CTABLES improved TABLES even more. GL, Mario Ron0z <[hidden email]> schrieb am 6:52 Donnerstag, 22.Oktober 2015: I first came across SPSS in ver 10 and learned to love TABLES. A period of many years of non use of SPSS passed. I have to say that CTABLES seems cumberson by comparison. Perhpas I'm just out of practice. So, why was TABLES dropped in favour of CTABLES, does anyone know? -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/CTABLES-birth-tp5730810p5730829.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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Very interesting comment, Mike.
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Thanks a lot! Mario Mario Giesel <[hidden email]> schrieb am 9:26 Donnerstag, 22.Oktober 2015: As far as I remember with CTABLES you are much more flexible considering the appearance of the table you create. TABLES had a richer functionality than CROSSTABS but CTABLES improved TABLES even more. GL, Mario Ron0z <[hidden email]> schrieb am 6:52 Donnerstag, 22.Oktober 2015: I first came across SPSS in ver 10 and learned to love TABLES. A period of many years of non use of SPSS passed. I have to say that CTABLES seems cumberson by comparison. Perhpas I'm just out of practice. So, why was TABLES dropped in favour of CTABLES, does anyone know? -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/CTABLES-birth-tp5730810p5730829.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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