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Rajeshms
Hi all,

I would like to hide "ALTER TYPES" output. I mean that if I conver string to numeric or vice versa, I don want it to be displayed in my output/viewer. So how can we hide it. I tried a lot in EDIT------->Options...but couldnt get it. can anyone help me to hide this using syntax....thanks in advance..



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Re: Hide "Altered Type" output from viewer

Bruce Weaver
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Have you looked at using OMS to suppress output?


Rajeshms wrote
Hi all,

I would like to hide "ALTER TYPES" output. I mean that if I conver string
to numeric or vice versa, I don want it to be displayed in my
output/viewer. So how can we hide it. I tried a lot in
EDIT------->Options...but couldnt get it. can anyone help me to hide this
using syntax....thanks in advance..



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Regards,

Rajesh M S
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Re: Hide "Altered Type" output from viewer

David Marso
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Or the ancient undocumented evil hack. ;-)
*---------------------------------------------------.
PRESERVE.
SET ERRORS OFF RESULTS OFF PRINTBACK OFF.
ALTER TYPE blah blah blah.
RESTORE.

That one actually has my name written all over it (long story).
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Bruce Weaver wrote
Have you looked at using OMS to suppress output?


Rajeshms wrote
Hi all,

I would like to hide "ALTER TYPES" output. I mean that if I conver string
to numeric or vice versa, I don want it to be displayed in my
output/viewer. So how can we hide it. I tried a lot in
EDIT------->Options...but couldnt get it. can anyone help me to hide this
using syntax....thanks in advance..



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Rajesh M S
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Re: Hide "Altered Type" output from viewer

Jon K Peck
These SET commands are documented in the CSR, but note
"ERRORS, MESSAGES, and RESULTS apply only to text output"
which means that the pivot table generated by ALTER TYPE is not affected by them.

OMS is the way to go for full control.


Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
Senior Software Engineer, IBM
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From:        David Marso <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email],
Date:        03/19/2013 04:16 PM
Subject:        Re: [SPSSX-L] Hide "Altered Type" output from viewer
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Or the ancient undocumented evil hack. ;-)
*---------------------------------------------------.
PRESERVE.
SET ERRORS OFF RESULTS OFF PRINTBACK OFF.
ALTER TYPE blah blah blah.
RESTORE.

That one actually has my name written all over it (long story).
--


Bruce Weaver wrote
> Have you looked at using OMS to suppress output?
>
> Rajeshms wrote
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to hide "ALTER TYPES" output. I mean that if I conver string
>> to numeric or vice versa, I don want it to be displayed in my
>> output/viewer. So how can we hide it. I tried a lot in
>> EDIT------->Options...but couldnt get it. can anyone help me to hide this
>> using syntax....thanks in advance..
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rajesh M S





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David Marso
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Hi Jon,
However ERRORS and RESULTS together suppress ALL output ;-)
That was a very special gift from Tex around 1997 .
I was on a customer project and needed a way to suppress a huge
correlation matrix.  Tex came to the rescue and saved our butts (it
was a 30K contract and the huge output was a showstopper).
eg:
*----*.
GET
  FILE='C:\Program Files\SPSS\1991 U.S. General Social Survey.sav'.
DATASET NAME DataSet1 WINDOW=FRONT.
SHOW RESULTS ERRORS.
PRESERVE.
SET RESULTS OFF ERRORS OFF PRINTBACK OFF.
CORR ALL /MATRIX OUT(*).
RESTORE.

** One of those things one gets by being nice to Tex!!!
David



On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Jon K Peck [via SPSSX Discussion]
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> These SET commands are documented in the CSR, but note
> "ERRORS, MESSAGES, and RESULTS apply only to text output"
> which means that the pivot table generated by ALTER TYPE is not affected by
> them.
>
> OMS is the way to go for full control.
>
>
> Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> [hidden email]
> phone: 720-342-5621
>
>
>
>
> From:        David Marso <[hidden email]>
> To:        [hidden email],
> Date:        03/19/2013 04:16 PM
> Subject:        Re: [SPSSX-L] Hide "Altered Type" output from viewer
> Sent by:        "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> Or the ancient undocumented evil hack. ;-)
> *---------------------------------------------------.
> PRESERVE.
> SET ERRORS OFF RESULTS OFF PRINTBACK OFF.
> ALTER TYPE blah blah blah.
> RESTORE.
>
> That one actually has my name written all over it (long story).
> --
>
>
> Bruce Weaver wrote
>> Have you looked at using OMS to suppress output?
>>
>> Rajeshms wrote
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I would like to hide "ALTER TYPES" output. I mean that if I conver string
>>> to numeric or vice versa, I don want it to be displayed in my
>>> output/viewer. So how can we hide it. I tried a lot in
>>> EDIT------->Options...but couldnt get it. can anyone help me to hide this
>>> using syntax....thanks in advance..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rajesh M S
>
>
>
>
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Re: Hide "Altered Type" output from viewer

David Marso
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In fact, one of the places where I used this method was my rebuilding of the
"Canonical Correlation.sps" code back in the mid 90's.
See line 54.


If you dare to meander down towards line 347-397 you will see what you have frequently referred to as a 'horrible hack' (using WRITE to generate SPSS syntax).  Well yeah, these days inexcusable but back then (pre SAX) it was really the only way.  Maybe that approach isn't even necessary any more since the original revision was to deal with all too frequent MEMORY limitations.  Just translate that crap back into the matrix language and be done with it.

It has quite obviously been altered since (DATASET DECLARE, long macro arguments (back then 8 was the limit), INCLUDE rather than INSERT etc, Yeah, someone has been poking that thing with a stick but obviously didn't put on the hazmat suit get to the core nastiness and purge the horrible hackiness).

I am doubtful whether IBM would bother to bring that code further into compliance with what sane people would call 'best practices'.

Moving forward, I would probably NUKE  the 'horrible hack' between 347-397 and just handle it in MATRIX (probably will do just fine since memory issues are no longer a huge issue) and then have it dump a model file for good measure (see the hideous gunk between 403-431).  

Similar considerations apply to Ridge Regression around line 41.
That was a simple intervention.  
CanCorr was more or less a full front on lobotomy.

TMI, don't think so.  Maybe turn those anachronisms into EXTENSIONS?
My Legacy lives on (for better or worse).  And it shall be noted I don't just rip on other people's code.  I would give that ornery old CanCorr code a bon fire roasting if I had the time. ;-)))
David

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Jon K Peck wrote
These SET commands are documented in the CSR, but note
"ERRORS, MESSAGES, and RESULTS apply only to text output"
which means that the pivot table generated by ALTER TYPE is not affected
by them.

OMS is the way to go for full control.


Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
Senior Software Engineer, IBM
[hidden email]
phone: 720-342-5621




From:   David Marso <[hidden email]>
To:     [hidden email],
Date:   03/19/2013 04:16 PM
Subject:        Re: [SPSSX-L] Hide "Altered Type" output from viewer
Sent by:        "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>



Or the ancient undocumented evil hack. ;-)
*---------------------------------------------------.
PRESERVE.
SET ERRORS OFF RESULTS OFF PRINTBACK OFF.
ALTER TYPE blah blah blah.
RESTORE.

That one actually has my name written all over it (long story).
--


Bruce Weaver wrote
> Have you looked at using OMS to suppress output?
>
> Rajeshms wrote
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to hide "ALTER TYPES" output. I mean that if I conver
string
>> to numeric or vice versa, I don want it to be displayed in my
>> output/viewer. So how can we hide it. I tried a lot in
>> EDIT------->Options...but couldnt get it. can anyone help me to hide
this
>> using syntax....thanks in advance..
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rajesh M S





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