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Dear All,
I have been analysing data using the McNemar test but am unsure which test statistics to report as SPSS produces several. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks Stef. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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The chi square for McNemar is what is usually reported.
Dr. Paul R. Swank, Professor and Director of Research Children's Learning Institute University of Texas Health Science Center-Houston -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stef Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:17 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: McNemar Results Dear All, I have been analysing data using the McNemar test but am unsure which test statistics to report as SPSS produces several. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks Stef. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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DO you know what the proceedure is for cases where SPSS does not calculate
the chi square? thanks Stef On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:33:38 -0600, Swank, Paul R <[hidden email]> wrote: >The chi square for McNemar is what is usually reported. > >Dr. Paul R. Swank, >Professor and Director of Research >Children's Learning Institute >University of Texas Health Science Center-Houston > > >-----Original Message----- >From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of >Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:17 AM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: McNemar Results > >Dear All, > >I have been analysing data using the McNemar test but am unsure which test >statistics to report as SPSS produces several. Any advice would be >appreciated. > >thanks > >Stef. > >===================== >To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >[hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >command. To leave the list, send the command >SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >INFO REFCARD > >===================== >To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >[hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >command. To leave the list, send the command >SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Perhaps if you gave a sample of data and described the question you are trying to address.
Dr. Paul R. Swank, Professor and Director of Research Children's Learning Institute University of Texas Health Science Center-Houston -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stef Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:34 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: McNemar Results DO you know what the proceedure is for cases where SPSS does not calculate the chi square? thanks Stef On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:33:38 -0600, Swank, Paul R <[hidden email]> wrote: >The chi square for McNemar is what is usually reported. > >Dr. Paul R. Swank, >Professor and Director of Research >Children's Learning Institute >University of Texas Health Science Center-Houston > > >-----Original Message----- >From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of >Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:17 AM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: McNemar Results > >Dear All, > >I have been analysing data using the McNemar test but am unsure which test >statistics to report as SPSS produces several. Any advice would be >appreciated. > >thanks > >Stef. > >===================== >To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >[hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >command. To leave the list, send the command >SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >INFO REFCARD > >===================== >To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >[hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >command. To leave the list, send the command >SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi Stef:
-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stef Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:34 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: McNemar Results DO you know what the proceedure is for cases where SPSS does not calculate the chi square? If sample size is low, SPSS computes the exact binomial p-value, instead of the asymptotic chi-square. If the number of discordant pairs is at least 10, the asymptotic chi-square is correct. You can compute it manually, or using this macro: DEFINE MCNEMARCHI(!POSITIONAL !TOKENS(1) /!POSITIONAL !TOKENS(1)/!POSITIONAL !TOKENS(1)/!POSITIONAL !TOKENS(1)). DATASET NAME Data. DATASET DECLARE Results WINDOW=HIDDEN. PRESERVE. SET ERRORS=NONE RESULTS=NONE. MATRIX. COMPUTE a=!1 . COMPUTE b=!2 . COMPUTE c=!3 . COMPUTE d=!4 . COMPUTE chi2=((b-c)**2)&/(b+c). COMPUTE chi2sig=1-CHICDF(chi2,1). COMPUTE chi2cor=(ABS(b-c)-1)**2&/(b+c). COMPUTE chi2sigc=1-CHICDF(chi2cor,1). COMPUTE vnames={'Chi2','Sig'}. SAVE {chi2,chi2sig;chi2cor,chi2sigc} /OUTFILE=Results /NAMES=vnames. END MATRIX. RESTORE. DATASET ACTIVATE Results. FORMAT chi2(F8.3) Sig (F8.4). VAR LABEL chi2 'Chi²'/ Sig 'Sig.'. STRING Test (A12). IF ($casenum EQ 1) Test = 'Uncorrected' . IF ($casenum EQ 2) Test = 'Yates Corr.' . OMS /SELECT TABLES /IF COMMANDS='Summarize' SUBTYPES='Case Processing Summary' /DESTINATION VIEWER=NO. SUMMARIZE /TABLES=Test chi2 Sig /FORMAT=LIST NOCASENUM NOTOTAL /TITLE="MacNemar's Chi-square tests (*)" /CELLS=NONE. OMSEND. DATASET ACTIVATE Data. DATASET CLOSE Results. ECHO '(*) Asymptotic'. !ENDDEFINE. * Sample data * B * A - + * - 16 2 * + 12 20 * Macro call *. MCNEMARCHI 16 2 12 20. HTH, Marta García-Granero -- For miscellaneous statistical stuff, visit: http://gjyp.nl/marta/ ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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