Python Esssentials

[Stan Gorodenski]

I just downloaded Python essentials, the executable file called
SPSS_STATSPYT_PLG-INTRL64B21.0W1NML.exe
For Win 7 64-bit.
The previous page instructions said the standard and trial versions are
the same. This download is listed as a trial. Is there an expiration
date on this download since it is listed as a trial? I'm not sure what
this executable file will do. Anything insidious? This sounds funny and
paranoiac, but when I downloaded the patch I couldn't launch SPSS until
I uninstalled ZoneAlarm. I'm afraid if I execute another file I might
end up with another problem to solve. I'm tired.

Also, there is another download, again in the Trial web page, called
"IBM SPSS Statistics-Integration Plug-in for Microsoft .NET 21.0 for
Windows." What is this? I think the Python essentials download has all
the plug ins, and so do I need this?
Stan

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[Jon K Peck]

Prior to the patch for 21, the trial and standard versions were identical.  As part of the V21 patch, the Python Essentials in Fixcentral were also updated.  The trial version was not.  You should use the version from Fixcentral.  There is no expiration on the trial, but it does not have the fixes in the Fixcentral version.

The .NET plugin is not related to the Python Essentials.  It is for .NET programming.


Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
Senior Software Engineer, IBM
[hidden email]
phone: [phone]




From:        Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email],
Date:        07/21/2013 10:55 PM
Subject:        [SPSSX-L] Python Esssentials
Sent by:        "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>

---

I just downloaded Python essentials, the executable file called
SPSS_STATSPYT_PLG-INTRL64B21.0W1NML.exe
For Win 7 64-bit.
The previous page instructions said the standard and trial versions are
the same. This download is listed as a trial. Is there an expiration
date on this download since it is listed as a trial? I'm not sure what
this executable file will do. Anything insidious? This sounds funny and
paranoiac, but when I downloaded the patch I couldn't launch SPSS until
I uninstalled ZoneAlarm. I'm afraid if I execute another file I might
end up with another problem to solve. I'm tired.

Also, there is another download, again in the Trial web page, called
"IBM SPSS Statistics-Integration Plug-in for Microsoft .NET 21.0 for
Windows." What is this? I think the Python essentials download has all
the plug ins, and so do I need this?
Stan

=====================
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For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
INFO REFCARD

[Stan Gorodenski]

Jon,
When I google search on IBM Fix Central, it takes me to
http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/
I enter the product name of SPSS Statistics, 21.0.0.1 as the installed
version, and Windows 64-bit x86 as the platform. I click on "Browse for
fixes" there is only one entry and it is called
21.0_IM_S21STAT-WIN-FP001-IF003
What am I doing wrong?
Stan


On 7/22/2013 5:23 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:

> Prior to the patch for 21, the trial and standard versions were
> identical.  As part of the V21 patch, the Python Essentials in
> Fixcentral were also updated.  The trial version was not.  You should
> use the version from Fixcentral.  There is no expiration on the trial,
> but it does not have the fixes in the Fixcentral version.
>
> The .NET plugin is not related to the Python Essentials.  It is for
> .NET programming.
>
>
> Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> [hidden email]
> phone: [phone]
>
>
>
>
> From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email],
> Date: 07/21/2013 10:55 PM
> Subject: [SPSSX-L] Python Esssentials
> Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> I just downloaded Python essentials, the executable file called
> SPSS_STATSPYT_PLG-INTRL64B21.0W1NML.exe
> For Win 7 64-bit.
> The previous page instructions said the standard and trial versions are
> the same. This download is listed as a trial. Is there an expiration
> date on this download since it is listed as a trial? I'm not sure what
> this executable file will do. Anything insidious? This sounds funny and
> paranoiac, but when I downloaded the patch I couldn't launch SPSS until
> I uninstalled ZoneAlarm. I'm afraid if I execute another file I might
> end up with another problem to solve. I'm tired.
>
> Also, there is another download, again in the Trial web page, called
> "IBM SPSS Statistics-Integration Plug-in for Microsoft .NET 21.0 for
> Windows." What is this? I think the Python essentials download has all
> the plug ins, and so do I need this?
> Stan
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD
>
>

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[Jon K Peck]

When I go to
SPSS Statistics 21.0 Fix Pack 1
on Fix Central, I see a list of items by platform.  In that list, I see, among other things
IBM SPSS StatsEssentials-Python 21.0FP Windows32
and the same for Windows64



Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
Senior Software Engineer, IBM
[hidden email]
phone: [phone]




From:        Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email],
Date:        07/22/2013 08:58 AM
Subject:        Re: [SPSSX-L] Python Essentials
Sent by:        "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>

---

Jon,
When I google search on IBM Fix Central, it takes me to
http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/
I enter the product name of SPSS Statistics, 21.0.0.1 as the installed
version, and Windows 64-bit x86 as the platform. I click on "Browse for
fixes" there is only one entry and it is called
21.0_IM_S21STAT-WIN-FP001-IF003
What am I doing wrong?
Stan


On 7/22/2013 5:23 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:
> Prior to the patch for 21, the trial and standard versions were
> identical.  As part of the V21 patch, the Python Essentials in
> Fixcentral were also updated.  The trial version was not.  You should
> use the version from Fixcentral.  There is no expiration on the trial,
> but it does not have the fixes in the Fixcentral version.
>
> The .NET plugin is not related to the Python Essentials.  It is for
> .NET programming.
>
>
> Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> [hidden email]
> phone: [phone]
>
>
>
>
> From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email],
> Date: 07/21/2013 10:55 PM
> Subject: [SPSSX-L] Python Esssentials
> Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> I just downloaded Python essentials, the executable file called
> SPSS_STATSPYT_PLG-INTRL64B21.0W1NML.exe
> For Win 7 64-bit.
> The previous page instructions said the standard and trial versions are
> the same. This download is listed as a trial. Is there an expiration
> date on this download since it is listed as a trial? I'm not sure what
> this executable file will do. Anything insidious? This sounds funny and
> paranoiac, but when I downloaded the patch I couldn't launch SPSS until
> I uninstalled ZoneAlarm. I'm afraid if I execute another file I might
> end up with another problem to solve. I'm tired.
>
> Also, there is another download, again in the Trial web page, called
> "IBM SPSS Statistics-Integration Plug-in for Microsoft .NET 21.0 for
> Windows." What is this? I think the Python essentials download has all
> the plug ins, and so do I need this?
> Stan
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD
>
>

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[Stan Gorodenski]

Jon,
Are you going to the link I went to? It makes me enter all the
specifications I gave and comes up with just one entry. Could you
provide the link you went to? I don't know how you are getting there.
Stan

On 7/22/2013 8:09 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:

> When I go to
> SPSS Statistics 21.0 Fix Pack 1
> on Fix Central, I see a list of items by platform.  In that list, I
> see, among other things
> IBM SPSS StatsEssentials-Python 21.0FP Windows32
> and the same for Windows64
>
>
>
> Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> [hidden email]
> phone: [phone]
>
>
>
>
> From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email],
> Date: 07/22/2013 08:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Python Essentials
> Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Jon,
> When I google search on IBM Fix Central, it takes me to
> http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/
> I enter the product name of SPSS Statistics, 21.0.0.1 as the installed
> version, and Windows 64-bit x86 as the platform. I click on "Browse for
> fixes" there is only one entry and it is called
> 21.0_IM_S21STAT-WIN-FP001-IF003
> What am I doing wrong?
> Stan
>
>
> On 7/22/2013 5:23 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:
> > Prior to the patch for 21, the trial and standard versions were
> > identical.  As part of the V21 patch, the Python Essentials in
> > Fixcentral were also updated.  The trial version was not.  You should
> > use the version from Fixcentral.  There is no expiration on the trial,
> > but it does not have the fixes in the Fixcentral version.
> >
> > The .NET plugin is not related to the Python Essentials.  It is for
> > .NET programming.
> >
> >
> > Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> > Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> > [hidden email]
> > phone: [phone]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email],
> > Date: 07/21/2013 10:55 PM
> > Subject: [SPSSX-L] Python Esssentials
> > Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > I just downloaded Python essentials, the executable file called
> > SPSS_STATSPYT_PLG-INTRL64B21.0W1NML.exe
> > For Win 7 64-bit.
> > The previous page instructions said the standard and trial versions are
> > the same. This download is listed as a trial. Is there an expiration
> > date on this download since it is listed as a trial? I'm not sure what
> > this executable file will do. Anything insidious? This sounds funny and
> > paranoiac, but when I downloaded the patch I couldn't launch SPSS until
> > I uninstalled ZoneAlarm. I'm afraid if I execute another file I might
> > end up with another problem to solve. I'm tired.
> >
> > Also, there is another download, again in the Trial web page, called
> > "IBM SPSS Statistics-Integration Plug-in for Microsoft .NET 21.0 for
> > Windows." What is this? I think the Python essentials download has all
> > the plug ins, and so do I need this?
> > Stan
> >
> > =====================
> > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> > command. To leave the list, send the command
> > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> > INFO REFCARD
> >
> >
>
> =====================
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> command. To leave the list, send the command
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> INFO REFCARD
>
>

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[Jon K Peck]

When you get to the page for 21.0-IM-S21STATPE-WIN64-FP001, which is here on my query

http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/swg/selectFixes?parent=SPSS&product=ibm/Information+Management/SPSS+Statistics&release=21.0.0.0&platform=All&function=fixId&fixids=21.0-IM-S21STATPE-WIN64-FP001&includeSupersedes=0

Right below the name is a link
More Information
that lists all the files.

My query was Product: SPSS Statistics, Installed Version 21.0.0.0, Platform=All

This link has instructions on how to look for a fix (from the FAQ page)
http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/fixes/en/fixcentral/help/faq_sw.html#search


Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
Senior Software Engineer, IBM
[hidden email]
phone: [phone]




From:        Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email],
Date:        07/22/2013 09:29 AM
Subject:        Re: [SPSSX-L] Python Essentials
Sent by:        "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>

---

Jon,
Are you going to the link I went to? It makes me enter all the
specifications I gave and comes up with just one entry. Could you
provide the link you went to? I don't know how you are getting there.
Stan

On 7/22/2013 8:09 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:
> When I go to
> SPSS Statistics 21.0 Fix Pack 1
> on Fix Central, I see a list of items by platform.  In that list, I
> see, among other things
> IBM SPSS StatsEssentials-Python 21.0FP Windows32
> and the same for Windows64
>
>
>
> Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> [hidden email]
> phone: [phone]
>
>
>
>
> From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email],
> Date: 07/22/2013 08:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Python Essentials
> Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Jon,
> When I google search on IBM Fix Central, it takes me to
> http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/
> I enter the product name of SPSS Statistics, 21.0.0.1 as the installed
> version, and Windows 64-bit x86 as the platform. I click on "Browse for
> fixes" there is only one entry and it is called
> 21.0_IM_S21STAT-WIN-FP001-IF003
> What am I doing wrong?
> Stan
>
>
> On 7/22/2013 5:23 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:
> > Prior to the patch for 21, the trial and standard versions were
> > identical.  As part of the V21 patch, the Python Essentials in
> > Fixcentral were also updated.  The trial version was not.  You should
> > use the version from Fixcentral.  There is no expiration on the trial,
> > but it does not have the fixes in the Fixcentral version.
> >
> > The .NET plugin is not related to the Python Essentials.  It is for
> > .NET programming.
> >
> >
> > Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> > Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> > [hidden email]
> > phone: [phone]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email],
> > Date: 07/21/2013 10:55 PM
> > Subject: [SPSSX-L] Python Esssentials
> > Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > I just downloaded Python essentials, the executable file called
> > SPSS_STATSPYT_PLG-INTRL64B21.0W1NML.exe
> > For Win 7 64-bit.
> > The previous page instructions said the standard and trial versions are
> > the same. This download is listed as a trial. Is there an expiration
> > date on this download since it is listed as a trial? I'm not sure what
> > this executable file will do. Anything insidious? This sounds funny and
> > paranoiac, but when I downloaded the patch I couldn't launch SPSS until
> > I uninstalled ZoneAlarm. I'm afraid if I execute another file I might
> > end up with another problem to solve. I'm tired.
> >
> > Also, there is another download, again in the Trial web page, called
> > "IBM SPSS Statistics-Integration Plug-in for Microsoft .NET 21.0 for
> > Windows." What is this? I think the Python essentials download has all
> > the plug ins, and so do I need this?
> > Stan
> >
> > =====================
> > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> > command. To leave the list, send the command
> > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> > INFO REFCARD
> >
> >
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD
>
>

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[Stan Gorodenski]

Thanks, Jon. The first time I did this I did enter 21.0.0.0 as the
installed version and I did get to a list of files. One was the
21.0-IM-S21STATPE-WIN64-FP001 you state below in your message. However,
when I clicked on "more information", it did not say it was for Python
Essentials. I see now that I needed to select on this and then click on
continue at which point it takes me to the login screen. However, I
could not have known it was for Python because there was no indication
of what it was, except for the "PE" of S21STATPE. Since I did not see a
Python essentials choice and I did not know what IM meant (since the
file I downloaded did not have IM in the file name), I then went back
and redid the search by changing the installed version from 21.0.0.0 to
21.0.0.1. When I did this, it only came up with one entry. I think the
choice for the installed version entry needs to be clarified. The
installed version *is* 21.0.0.1. Apparently, what it wanted was what the
version was that the download file is supposed to apply to. Maybe this
is clarified in some help stuff, but it is not evident from the entry
screen.

Thanks for you help. I think I should be able to get through this now
(when I get back Tuesday). Part of my problem is not yet understanding
the menu system IBM has in place (although I don't know how anyone could
know that PE is for Python when the file I downloaded said PYT and the
"More Information" did not give any more enlightenment, and know which
"installed version" to enter).
Stan

On 7/22/2013 8:45 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:

> When you get to the page for 21.0-IM-S21STATPE-WIN64-FP001, which is
> here on my query
>
> http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/swg/selectFixes?parent=SPSS&product=ibm/Information+Management/SPSS+Statistics&release=21.0.0.0&platform=All&function=fixId&fixids=21.0-IM-S21STATPE-WIN64-FP001&includeSupersedes=0
> <http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/swg/selectFixes?parent=SPSS&product=ibm/Information+Management/SPSS+Statistics&release=21.0.0.0&platform=All&function=fixId&fixids=21.0-IM-S21STATPE-WIN64-FP001&includeSupersedes=0>
>
>
> Right below the name is a link
> More Information
> that lists all the files.
>
> My query was Product: SPSS Statistics, Installed Version 21.0.0.0,
> Platform=All
>
> This link has instructions on how to look for a fix (from the FAQ page)
> http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/fixes/en/fixcentral/help/faq_sw.html#search
>
>
>
> Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> [hidden email]
> phone: [phone]
>
>
>
>
> From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email],
> Date: 07/22/2013 09:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Python Essentials
> Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Jon,
> Are you going to the link I went to? It makes me enter all the
> specifications I gave and comes up with just one entry. Could you
> provide the link you went to? I don't know how you are getting there.
> Stan
>
> On 7/22/2013 8:09 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:
> > When I go to
> > SPSS Statistics 21.0 Fix Pack 1
> > on Fix Central, I see a list of items by platform.  In that list, I
> > see, among other things
> > IBM SPSS StatsEssentials-Python 21.0FP Windows32
> > and the same for Windows64
> >
> >
> >
> > Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> > Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> > [hidden email]
> > phone: [phone]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email],
> > Date: 07/22/2013 08:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Python Essentials
> > Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Jon,
> > When I google search on IBM Fix Central, it takes me to
> > http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/
> > I enter the product name of SPSS Statistics, 21.0.0.1 as the installed
> > version, and Windows 64-bit x86 as the platform. I click on "Browse for
> > fixes" there is only one entry and it is called
> > 21.0_IM_S21STAT-WIN-FP001-IF003
> > What am I doing wrong?
> > Stan
> >
> >
> > On 7/22/2013 5:23 AM, Jon K Peck wrote:
> > > Prior to the patch for 21, the trial and standard versions were
> > > identical.  As part of the V21 patch, the Python Essentials in
> > > Fixcentral were also updated.  The trial version was not.  You should
> > > use the version from Fixcentral.  There is no expiration on the trial,
> > > but it does not have the fixes in the Fixcentral version.
> > >
> > > The .NET plugin is not related to the Python Essentials.  It is for
> > > .NET programming.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
> > > Senior Software Engineer, IBM
> > > [hidden email]
> > > phone: [phone]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]>
> > > To: [hidden email],
> > > Date: 07/21/2013 10:55 PM
> > > Subject: [SPSSX-L] Python Esssentials
> > > Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I just downloaded Python essentials, the executable file called
> > > SPSS_STATSPYT_PLG-INTRL64B21.0W1NML.exe
> > > For Win 7 64-bit.
> > > The previous page instructions said the standard and trial
> versions are
> > > the same. This download is listed as a trial. Is there an expiration
> > > date on this download since it is listed as a trial? I'm not sure what
> > > this executable file will do. Anything insidious? This sounds
> funny and
> > > paranoiac, but when I downloaded the patch I couldn't launch SPSS
> until
> > > I uninstalled ZoneAlarm. I'm afraid if I execute another file I might
> > > end up with another problem to solve. I'm tired.
> > >
> > > Also, there is another download, again in the Trial web page, called
> > > "IBM SPSS Statistics-Integration Plug-in for Microsoft .NET 21.0 for
> > > Windows." What is this? I think the Python essentials download has all
> > > the plug ins, and so do I need this?
> > > Stan
> > >
> > > =====================
> > > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> > > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text
> except the
> > > command. To leave the list, send the command
> > > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> > > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> > > INFO REFCARD
> > >
> > >
> >
> > =====================
> > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> > command. To leave the list, send the command
> > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> > INFO REFCARD
> >
> >
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD
>
>

=====================
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