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Hi Hector, your logic and explanation regarding the following matter is very
convincing. I was wondering if there is any published article or book that can be quoted in support of this matter. It would be of great help for me. 1. Apply log reg to whatever is the event of your interest, either being or not being tested. 2. Do not care about the cross classification of predicted and observed outcome. It means nothing. 3. To assess the adequacy of the model use the other coefficients available to assess goodness of fit and significance. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Regarding ways of testing the significance of log reg results you may
consult standard textbooks such as Hosmer and Lemeshow. At page 146-147 of their book (Applied Logistic Regression, Wiley, 1989) these authors criticise using the classification table (where an outcome is predicted based on a cutoff point for the probability and compared to the observed outcome for each individual case), saying that "it is easy to construct a situation where the logistic regression model is in fact the correct model and thus will fit, but classification will be poor" (and they give an example). "Accurate or inaccurate classification does not address our criteria for goodness-of-fit". Hosmer and Lemeshow's measures rely more on the comparison of expected and observed frequencies of the event in GROUPS of subjects with increasing probabilities (e.g. those below 0.1, those between 0.1 and 0.2, etc.), but not on the comparison of observed and predicted INDIVIDUAL outcomes (as in the cross classification table). On the frequentist (versus subjective) interpretation of probabilities there are many references in books on the foundations of probability. An author making much of it in the context of "fast and frugal" decision rules is Gerd Gigerenzer; see his main books like: Adaptive Thinking: Rationality in the Real World (OUP,2000); Reckoning with Risk (Penguin, 2003); Gut Feelings: The Intelligence of the Inconscious (Viking 2007), and G. Gigerenzer & R. Selten, Bounded Rationality: The Adaptive Toolbox (MIT Press, 2001). Hector -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of T K Sent: 23 April 2009 13:32 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Logistic Regression and Unequal Distribution of Dependent Variable Hi Hector, your logic and explanation regarding the following matter is very convincing. I was wondering if there is any published article or book that can be quoted in support of this matter. It would be of great help for me. 1. Apply log reg to whatever is the event of your interest, either being or not being tested. 2. Do not care about the cross classification of predicted and observed outcome. It means nothing. 3. To assess the adequacy of the model use the other coefficients available to assess goodness of fit and significance. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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