Re: SPSSX-L Digest - 28 Jan 2009 to 29 Jan 2009 (#2009-30) Please set the default LISTSERV option to allow HTML...

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Re: SPSSX-L Digest - 28 Jan 2009 to 29 Jan 2009 (#2009-30) Please set the default LISTSERV option to allow HTML...

Leslie Horst
I agree with Hector Maletta - it's a drag to try to read messages that have come in as HTML code rather than being displayed clearly.  If a shift to HTML by default with opt-out for those who can't use it were possible, that seems like the way to go.

Leslie Horst

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Date:    Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:02:50 -0500
From:    UGA Listserv Admin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Please set the default LISTSERV option to allow HTML in SPSSX-L
         posts

Actually, our Listserv is an old version, and users can't turn off html
individually.  I turned off the option on the list: let's see how that works for
the membership.

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On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Art Kendall wrote:

> I frequently post syntax to this list.  I usually cc the OP. The copy
> that goes to the OP preserves the formatting.
>
> Over the years I have found that working with a fixed font allows me to
> vertically align syntax in a way that clarifies the logic.
>
> to see what I mean paste the snippet of syntax below and view it with a
> fixed font.
> extra spaces make "do if "align with "else if" and then the operators
> and values align vertically.
>
> do if   externalizing ge 60 and internalizing lt 60.
> compute group = 1.
> else if externalizing lt 60 and internalizing gt 60.
> compute group = 2.
> else if externalizing ge 60 and internalizing ge 60.
> compute group = 3.
> else if externalizing lt 60 and internalizing lt 60.
> compute group = 4.
> ELSE .
> compute group = 5.
> end if.
>
> In days of yore newsgroups discouraged HTML because some users' mail programs
> could not handle HTML.
> One advantage of lists over newsgroups is that they can use mixes of fixed
> and variable width fonts.
> They also allow font size, bolding, italics, etc.
>
> LISTSERV allows individual users to turn off HTML. So users who have a
> problem with it would have that option.
>
> Art Kendall
> Social Research Consultants
>
>
>
>

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Date:    Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:51:29 -0200
From:    Hector Maletta <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Please set the default LISTSERV option to allow HTML in   SPSSX-L
         posts

I do not think HTML should be turned off for everyone, especially because
most email services nowadays can handle it, and many illustrative syntax and
columnar data is best viewed under HTML. But on the other hand there might
be some listmembers that are hurt because they cannot receive HTML mail.
Could they see the messages some alternative way, e.g. in the Archives,
which can be viewed with a Web browser?
I'd rather prefer the real solution, i.e. that the list shifts soon to a
more recent version of the LISTSERV software, admitting individual choice as
Art Kendall suggests.
Hector

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