Real Stats. Real Easy.

[Andy W]

Related to some recent rants, came across this blog post this morning and figured would pass along to the group. It includes a pamphlet for SPSS (Version ?) for Windows 3.0.

SPSS looked great! 20 years ago...

[David Marso]

Shudder ;-(  That brings back memories (mostly horrific ones).
I suspect that is version 5 circa 1991 maybe 1992.
At that time I was a technical support rep at SPSS (thankless job at best).
Sir/Maam... I am afraid that I can NOT teach you how to use Windows over the phone.
That was a nightmare trying to deal with all the various incompatibility issues.
Try walking an ultra-noob through the process of editing a configuration file so the install envt is vanilla.
Yeah, too much fun!  
I ended up wearing out the mute button on my phone after awhile
(yeah, must not let the customer hear profanity! ;-)
Ironically, the powerhouse PC desktop product at that time was SPSS 4.1 for OS2 .  
I supported that and rarely had ANY problems.  
VERY STABILE. Of course OS/2-Warp is a long dead product.
There was also a Mac product, but that was it's own ugly hornet's nest.
It wasn't until 6.1.4 that SPSS for Windows became remotely stabile IMNSHO.
"Real Stats-Real Easy" ....Yeah?  Gotta love the people in the Marketing department.

 

Andy W wrote

Related to some recent rants, came across this blog post this morning and figured would pass along to the group. It includes a pamphlet for SPSS (Version ?) for Windows 3.0.

SPSS looked great! 20 years ago...

[Angie Carrico]

Wow! Bringing back the memories for me too (though not horrific, like poor David) of undergrad/grad days.  Thanks for sharing.  That is great!

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:21 PM, David Marso <[hidden email]> wrote:

Shudder ;-(  That brings back memories (mostly horrific ones).
I suspect that is version 5 circa 1991 maybe 1992.
At that time I was a technical support rep at SPSS (thankless job at best).
Sir/Maam... I am afraid that I can NOT teach you how to use Windows over the
phone.
That was a nightmare trying to deal with all the various incompatibility
issues.
Try walking an ultra-noob through the process of editing a configuration
file so the install envt is vanilla.
Yeah, too much fun!
I ended up wearing out the mute button on my phone after awhile
(yeah, must not let the customer hear profanity! ;-)
Ironically, the powerhouse PC desktop product at that time was SPSS 4.1 for
OS2 .
I supported that and rarely had ANY problems.
VERY STABILE. Of course OS/2-Warp is a long dead product.
There was also a Mac product, but that was it's own ugly hornet's nest.
It wasn't until 6.1.4 that SPSS for Windows became remotely stabile IMNSHO.
"Real Stats-Real Easy" ....Yeah?  Gotta love the people in the Marketing
department.




Andy W wrote
> Related to some recent rants, came across this blog post this morning and
> figured would pass along to the group. It includes a pamphlet for SPSS
> (Version ?) for Windows 3.0.
> SPSS looked great! 20 years ago...
> <http://sumsar.net/blog/2013/09/spss-looked-great-20-years-ago/>
>
<http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/file/n5722880/spss_highlight_3.jpeg>




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[David Marso]

Interesting.  Prior to doing the teksport gig I had only used SPSS on a mainframe.
No GUI, straight syntax.  When I first saw SPSS/PC+ and SPSS for OS2 I thought WOW, pretty cool.
OTOH:  I was hired to do stat support and had never done any file merging, aggregate, Macros, complex file stuff, date wrangling, odd ball data restructuring etc...Learned a lot by answering user's questions (got broadsided when I suddenly (overnight) became the data-meister/macro dude/odd ball DR guy -The person previously in charge of that had transferred to a different dept and suddenly I inherited the 'curse' -nobody else wanted to touch any of that stuff with a 20 foot pole ;-).
Probably many people on this list picked up macros and crazy data tricks from stuff I posted in the early 90's .  "Real Stats-Real Easy" leaves out A LOT:  "Real Data-Real Chaos" (for one thing ;-)

Angie Carrico wrote

Wow! Bringing back the memories for me too (though not horrific, like poor
David) of undergrad/grad days.  Thanks for sharing.  That is great!


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:21 PM, David Marso <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shudder ;-(  That brings back memories (mostly horrific ones).
> I suspect that is version 5 circa 1991 maybe 1992.
> At that time I was a technical support rep at SPSS (thankless job at best).
> Sir/Maam... I am afraid that I can NOT teach you how to use Windows over
> the
> phone.
> That was a nightmare trying to deal with all the various incompatibility
> issues.
> Try walking an ultra-noob through the process of editing a configuration
> file so the install envt is vanilla.
> Yeah, too much fun!
> I ended up wearing out the mute button on my phone after awhile
> (yeah, must not let the customer hear profanity! ;-)
> Ironically, the powerhouse PC desktop product at that time was SPSS 4.1 for
> OS2 .
> I supported that and rarely had ANY problems.
> VERY STABILE. Of course OS/2-Warp is a long dead product.
> There was also a Mac product, but that was it's own ugly hornet's nest.
> It wasn't until 6.1.4 that SPSS for Windows became remotely stabile IMNSHO.
> "Real Stats-Real Easy" ....Yeah?  Gotta love the people in the Marketing
> department.
>
>
>
>
> Andy W wrote
> > Related to some recent rants, came across this blog post this morning and
> > figured would pass along to the group. It includes a pamphlet for SPSS
> > (Version ?) for Windows 3.0.
> > SPSS looked great! 20 years ago...
> > <http://sumsar.net/blog/2013/09/spss-looked-great-20-years-ago/>
> >
> <
> http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/file/n5722880/spss_highlight_3.jpeg
> >
>
>
>
>
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