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Rule of Thumb for Partial Eta Square

Salbod
Is there a standard small, medium, and large values for partial eta squared in a factorial ANOVA?
I wasn't able to find them in Cohen's power analysis book (1988) nor was I able to find a reference on this site.

I took some data (2 X 2) that accompanied (Chapter 9) Cohen, Cohen, West, and Aiken's book. The data shows three types of interactions (I used YC). I analyzed the dataset using Regression(Linear): contrast coding and ZPP.  I analyzed the same dataset using ANOVA, requesting ETASQ.  I found the squared partial rs to approximate the partial eta squares. Does that imply that I can use Cohen's r effect sizes?

Any suggestions are most welcome.

TIA, Stephen Salbod, Pace University, NYC
 
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Re: Rule of Thumb for Partial Eta Square

ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON
Hello:

Ferguson, C. J. (2009). An effect size primer: a guide for clinicians and researchers. Profesional Psychology : Research and Practice, 40(5), 532-538.

He suggest small .04, moderate .25 and strong .64.

Kindly

Andres


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Is there a standard small, medium, and large values for partial eta squared
in a factorial ANOVA?
I wasn't able to find them in Cohen's power analysis book (1988) nor was I
able to find a reference on this site.

I took some data (2 X 2) that accompanied (Chapter 9) Cohen, Cohen, West,
and Aiken's book. The data shows three types of interactions (I used YC). I
analyzed the dataset using Regression(Linear): contrast coding and ZPP.  I
analyzed the same dataset using ANOVA, requesting ETASQ.  I found the
squared partial rs to approximate the partial eta squares. Does that imply
that I can use Cohen's r effect sizes?

Any suggestions are most welcome.

TIA, Stephen Salbod, Pace University, NYC
 
CohenData.sav
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Salbod

Thank you, Andres.

 

I had looked at this article earlier. I thought it was for eta square not partial eta square. I’m assuming there is a distinction between the two. That is another reason I’m after a reference.

 

-Steve

 

From: ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON [mailto:[hidden email]]
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Hello:

 

Ferguson, C. J. (2009). An effect size primer: a guide for clinicians and researchers. Profesional Psychology : Research and Practice, 40(5), 532-538.

 

He suggest small .04, moderate .25 and strong .64.

 

Kindly

 

Andres

 

 

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Asunto: Rule of Thumb for Partial Eta Square

Is there a standard small, medium, and large values for partial eta squared
in a factorial ANOVA?
I wasn't able to find them in Cohen's power analysis book (1988) nor was I
able to find a reference on this site.

I took some data (2 X 2) that accompanied (Chapter 9) Cohen, Cohen, West,
and Aiken's book. The data shows three types of interactions (I used YC). I
analyzed the dataset using Regression(Linear): contrast coding and ZPP.  I
analyzed the same dataset using ANOVA, requesting ETASQ.  I found the
squared partial rs to approximate the partial eta squares. Does that imply
that I can use Cohen's r effect sizes?

Any suggestions are most welcome.

TIA, Stephen Salbod, Pace University, NYC
 
CohenData.sav
<http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/file/n5729057/CohenData.sav









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ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON
He said in the article that for big sample sizes the two coeficients are identical

Andres


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Thank you, Andres.

 

I had looked at this article earlier. I thought it was for eta square not partial eta square. I’m assuming there is a distinction between the two. That is another reason I’m after a reference.

 

-Steve

 

From: ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Salbod, Mr. Stephen; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: Rule of Thumb for Partial Eta Square

 

Hello:

 

Ferguson, C. J. (2009). An effect size primer: a guide for clinicians and researchers. Profesional Psychology : Research and Practice, 40(5), 532-538.

 

He suggest small .04, moderate .25 and strong .64.

 

Kindly

 

Andres

 

 

Enviado desde mi Samsung Mobile de Claro



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De: Salbod <[hidden email]>
Fecha:25/03/2015 10:05 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Asunto: Rule of Thumb for Partial Eta Square

Is there a standard small, medium, and large values for partial eta squared
in a factorial ANOVA?
I wasn't able to find them in Cohen's power analysis book (1988) nor was I
able to find a reference on this site.

I took some data (2 X 2) that accompanied (Chapter 9) Cohen, Cohen, West,
and Aiken's book. The data shows three types of interactions (I used YC). I
analyzed the dataset using Regression(Linear): contrast coding and ZPP.  I
analyzed the same dataset using ANOVA, requesting ETASQ.  I found the
squared partial rs to approximate the partial eta squares. Does that imply
that I can use Cohen's r effect sizes?

Any suggestions are most welcome.

TIA, Stephen Salbod, Pace University, NYC
 
CohenData.sav
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Re: Rule of Thumb for Partial Eta Square

bdates

Eta square is the SSeffect/SStotal. Partial eta square is SSeffect/SSeffect+SSerror. Sample size has less to do with it than the components of SStotal that are left out in partial eta square. If the other SS’s are high, then sample size doesn’t matter. The greater the complexity of the design, the greater the difference. For a one-way ANOVA, the two are equivalent, and equivalent to Rsquare.  Limits for eta square I’ve seen are .01 mimimal/small; .059 moderate;.138 large.

 

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He said in the article that for big sample sizes the two coeficients are identical

 

Andres

 

 

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Thank you, Andres.

 

I had looked at this article earlier. I thought it was for eta square not partial eta square. I’m assuming there is a distinction between the two. That is another reason I’m after a reference.

 

-Steve

 

From: ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON [[hidden email]]
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Subject: RE: Rule of Thumb for Partial Eta Square

 

Hello:

 

Ferguson, C. J. (2009). An effect size primer: a guide for clinicians and researchers. Profesional Psychology : Research and Practice, 40(5), 532-538.

 

He suggest small .04, moderate .25 and strong .64.

 

Kindly

 

Andres

 

 

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De: Salbod <[hidden email]>
Fecha:25/03/2015 10:05 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Asunto: Rule of Thumb for Partial Eta Square

Is there a standard small, medium, and large values for partial eta squared
in a factorial ANOVA?
I wasn't able to find them in Cohen's power analysis book (1988) nor was I
able to find a reference on this site.

I took some data (2 X 2) that accompanied (Chapter 9) Cohen, Cohen, West,
and Aiken's book. The data shows three types of interactions (I used YC). I
analyzed the dataset using Regression(Linear): contrast coding and ZPP.  I
analyzed the same dataset using ANOVA, requesting ETASQ.  I found the
squared partial rs to approximate the partial eta squares. Does that imply
that I can use Cohen's r effect sizes?

Any suggestions are most welcome.

TIA, Stephen Salbod, Pace University, NYC
 
CohenData.sav
<http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/file/n5729057/CohenData.sav









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