SEM text using AMOS
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I am about to undergo training in Structural Equation Modelling using AMOS in SPSS. I have a health science background and need to purchase a good practical approach text(s) (rather than mathematical text). Below are some options. Any advice for or against or other options would be greatly appreciated. Kline, R. B. (2005). Principles and practice of structural equation modeling (2nd Edn.). NY: The Guilford Press Bollen, K. A. (1989). Structural equations with latent variables. NY: John Wiley & Sons. Introduction to Structural Equation Modelling Using SPSS and Amos By Professor Niels Blunch Published by Sage Publications, 2008 ISBN 1412945569, 9781412945561 A Beginner's Guide to Structural Equation Modeling: Second Edition By Randall E. Schumacker, Richard G. Lomax Published by Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 2004 ISBN 0805840184, 9780805840186 512 pages Regards, Paola "Ours has become a time-poor society, fatigued by non-physical demands and trying to compartmentalize daily living tasks. It is small wonder that physical activity is discarded in this environment" p126 (Steinbeck, 2001) P Please consider the environment before printing this email. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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I like the "Structural Equation Modeling with Amos - Basic Concepts,
Applications, and Programming"" by Barbara M. Byrne. Multivariate Application Series, Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, Publishers, 2001. nf -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Paola Chivers Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: SEM text using AMOS HI, I am about to undergo training in Structural Equation Modelling using AMOS in SPSS. I have a health science background and need to purchase a good practical approach text(s) (rather than mathematical text). Below are some options. Any advice for or against or other options would be greatly appreciated. Kline, R. B. (2005). Principles and practice of structural equation modeling (2nd Edn.). NY: The Guilford Press Bollen, K. A. (1989). Structural equations with latent variables. NY: John Wiley & Sons. Introduction to Structural Equation Modelling Using SPSS and Amos By Professor Niels Blunch Published by Sage Publications, 2008 ISBN 1412945569, 9781412945561 A Beginner's Guide to Structural Equation Modeling: Second Edition By Randall E. Schumacker, Richard G. Lomax Published by Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 2004 ISBN 0805840184, 9780805840186 512 pages Regards, Paola "Ours has become a time-poor society, fatigued by non-physical demands and trying to compartmentalize daily living tasks. It is small wonder that physical activity is discarded in this environment" p126 (Steinbeck, 2001) P Please consider the environment before printing this email. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Just signed up to this list 10 minutes ago so this topic may have been
discussed in the recent past (but I don't see any SPSS-L archives to search). I just bought SPSS 17 and I'm wondering if anyone has used it yet...any obvious bugs or idiosyncrasies about the software that we should be aware of. My package is not shipping until Sept 17th. Donna **************************************************************************** Donna L. Alden-Bugden, BScN, RN(EP), MN (ANP), DNP-Student NPCanada.ca - Promoting Nurse Practitioners in Canada Family Nurse Practitioner - Winnipeg, Manitoba Doctoral Student - Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio [hidden email] Alternate E-mail: [hidden email] http://www.NPCanada.ca *************************************************************************** ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi Donna
The archive is at: http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/spssx-l.html To my knowledge there is so far not muchh about SPSS 17 in it. Christian -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]]Im Auftrag von Donna Alden-Bugden Gesendet: Freitag, 12. September 2008 03:33 An: [hidden email] Betreff: SPSS 17 Just signed up to this list 10 minutes ago so this topic may have been discussed in the recent past (but I don't see any SPSS-L archives to search). I just bought SPSS 17 and I'm wondering if anyone has used it yet...any obvious bugs or idiosyncrasies about the software that we should be aware of. My package is not shipping until Sept 17th. Donna **************************************************************************** Donna L. Alden-Bugden, BScN, RN(EP), MN (ANP), DNP-Student NPCanada.ca - Promoting Nurse Practitioners in Canada Family Nurse Practitioner - Winnipeg, Manitoba Doctoral Student - Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio [hidden email] Alternate E-mail: [hidden email] http://www.NPCanada.ca *************************************************************************** ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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In reply to this post by Paola Chivers-2
Hi Paola
Bollen is 'the Bible' but pretty heavy going. Loehlin J.C, Latent Variable Models, (pub. Lawrence Erlbaum) is an accessible text. Garry Gelade. -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Paola Chivers Sent: 12 September 2008 02:14 To: [hidden email] Subject: SEM text using AMOS HI, I am about to undergo training in Structural Equation Modelling using AMOS in SPSS. I have a health science background and need to purchase a good practical approach text(s) (rather than mathematical text). Below are some options. Any advice for or against or other options would be greatly appreciated. Kline, R. B. (2005). Principles and practice of structural equation modeling (2nd Edn.). NY: The Guilford Press Bollen, K. A. (1989). Structural equations with latent variables. NY: John Wiley & Sons. Introduction to Structural Equation Modelling Using SPSS and Amos By Professor Niels Blunch Published by Sage Publications, 2008 ISBN 1412945569, 9781412945561 A Beginner's Guide to Structural Equation Modeling: Second Edition By Randall E. Schumacker, Richard G. Lomax Published by Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 2004 ISBN 0805840184, 9780805840186 512 pages Regards, Paola "Ours has become a time-poor society, fatigued by non-physical demands and trying to compartmentalize daily living tasks. It is small wonder that physical activity is discarded in this environment" p126 (Steinbeck, 2001) P Please consider the environment before printing this email. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD __________ NOD32 3436 (20080911) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi Paola,
I found the book on SEM/AMOS by Barbara Byrne very informative AND readable: http://www.researchmethodsarena.com/books/Structural-Equation-Modeling-With-AMOS-isbn9780805841046 Barbara Byrne (2001). Structural Equation Modeling With AMOS Basic Concepts, Applications, and Programming Cheers!! Albert-Jan --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Garry Gelade <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Garry Gelade <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: SEM text using AMOS > To: [hidden email] > Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 12:01 PM > Hi Paola > > Bollen is 'the Bible' but pretty heavy going. > Loehlin J.C, Latent Variable > Models, (pub. Lawrence Erlbaum) is an accessible text. > > Garry Gelade. > > -----Original Message----- > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of > Paola Chivers > Sent: 12 September 2008 02:14 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: SEM text using AMOS > > HI, > > > > I am about to undergo training in Structural Equation > Modelling using AMOS > in SPSS. I have a health science background and need to > purchase a good > practical approach text(s) (rather than mathematical text). > > > > Below are some options. Any advice for or against or other > options would be > greatly appreciated. > > > > Kline, R. B. (2005). Principles and practice of structural > equation modeling > (2nd Edn.). NY: The Guilford Press > > Bollen, K. A. (1989). Structural equations with latent > variables. NY: John > Wiley & Sons. > > > > Introduction to Structural Equation Modelling Using SPSS > and Amos > > By Professor Niels Blunch > > Published by Sage Publications, 2008 > > ISBN 1412945569, 9781412945561 > > > > A Beginner's Guide to Structural Equation Modeling: > Second Edition > > By Randall E. Schumacker, Richard G. Lomax > > Published by Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 2004 ISBN > 0805840184, > 9780805840186 512 pages > > > > > > Regards, > > Paola > > > > "Ours has become a time-poor society, fatigued by > non-physical demands and > trying to compartmentalize daily living tasks. It is small > wonder that > physical activity is discarded in this environment" > p126 (Steinbeck, 2001) > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this > email. > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body > text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF > SPSSX-L For a list of > commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO > REFCARD > > __________ NOD32 3436 (20080911) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body > text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the > command > INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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One should consider the version of the AMOS used in the book. For example, the book published in 2001 used the version 4.0 of AMOS. What do you think are the difference between AMOS version 4.0 and the present version during training?Cheers!Johnny
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In reply to this post by Neda Faregh
This is the one we use too. Not only does it cover the basics, it uses AMOS in the explanation.
Melissa -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Neda Faregh Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:25 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] SEM text using AMOS I like the "Structural Equation Modeling with Amos - Basic Concepts, Applications, and Programming"" by Barbara M. Byrne. Multivariate Application Series, Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, Publishers, 2001. nf -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Paola Chivers Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: SEM text using AMOS HI, I am about to undergo training in Structural Equation Modelling using AMOS in SPSS. I have a health science background and need to purchase a good practical approach text(s) (rather than mathematical text). Below are some options. Any advice for or against or other options would be greatly appreciated. Kline, R. B. (2005). Principles and practice of structural equation modeling (2nd Edn.). NY: The Guilford Press Bollen, K. A. (1989). Structural equations with latent variables. NY: John Wiley & Sons. Introduction to Structural Equation Modelling Using SPSS and Amos By Professor Niels Blunch Published by Sage Publications, 2008 ISBN 1412945569, 9781412945561 A Beginner's Guide to Structural Equation Modeling: Second Edition By Randall E. Schumacker, Richard G. Lomax Published by Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 2004 ISBN 0805840184, 9780805840186 512 pages Regards, Paola "Ours has become a time-poor society, fatigued by non-physical demands and trying to compartmentalize daily living tasks. It is small wonder that physical activity is discarded in this environment" p126 (Steinbeck, 2001) P Please consider the environment before printing this email. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION This transmittal and any attachments may contain PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the designated recipient, or an employee or agent authorized to deliver such transmittals to the designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or publication of this transmittal is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender and delete this copy from your system. You may also call us at (309) 827-6026 for assistance. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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In reply to this post by Johnny Amora
All,
I will be obtaining spss files from somebody who did analyses using a (recent, let's say) version of spss on a (recent, let's say) mac. I know that version specifics are needed to give a specific answer but I don't know them at present. What trouble will I have bringing the file types over to an microsoft OS computer? Thanks, Gene Maguin ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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When in doubt, ask for portable files.
-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gene Maguin Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:18 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: SEM text using AMOS All, I will be obtaining spss files from somebody who did analyses using a (recent, let's say) version of spss on a (recent, let's say) mac. I know that version specifics are needed to give a specific answer but I don't know them at present. What trouble will I have bringing the file types over to an microsoft OS computer? Thanks, Gene Maguin ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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In reply to this post by Donna Alden-Bugden
If you are reading in text data, and some of your variables are strings,
ver. 17 has the ability detect the string length. However, depending on the data, there may be cases where a string length over 14 is identified incorrectly - based on direct experience. -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Donna Alden-Bugden Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:33 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: SPSS 17 Just signed up to this list 10 minutes ago so this topic may have been discussed in the recent past (but I don't see any SPSS-L archives to search). I just bought SPSS 17 and I'm wondering if anyone has used it yet...any obvious bugs or idiosyncrasies about the software that we should be aware of. My package is not shipping until Sept 17th. Donna ************************************************************************ **** Donna L. Alden-Bugden, BScN, RN(EP), MN (ANP), DNP-Student NPCanada.ca - Promoting Nurse Practitioners in Canada Family Nurse Practitioner - Winnipeg, Manitoba Doctoral Student - Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio [hidden email] Alternate E-mail: [hidden email] http://www.NPCanada.ca ************************************************************************ *** ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Was that in the Beta version, or the version that SPSS have just released?
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> wrote: > If you are reading in text data, and some of your variables are strings, > ver. 17 has the ability detect the string length. However, depending on > the data, there may be cases where a string length over 14 is identified > incorrectly - based on direct experience. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Donna Alden-Bugden > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:33 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: SPSS 17 > > Just signed up to this list 10 minutes ago so this topic may have been > discussed in the recent past (but I don't see any SPSS-L archives to > search). I just bought SPSS 17 and I'm wondering if anyone has used it > yet...any obvious bugs or idiosyncrasies about the software that we > should > be aware of. My package is not shipping until Sept 17th. > Donna > > ************************************************************************ > **** > Donna L. Alden-Bugden, BScN, RN(EP), MN (ANP), DNP-Student > NPCanada.ca - Promoting Nurse Practitioners in Canada > Family Nurse Practitioner - Winnipeg, Manitoba > Doctoral Student - Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio > [hidden email] > Alternate E-mail: > [hidden email] > http://www.NPCanada.ca > ************************************************************************ > *** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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In reply to this post by Paola Chivers-2
Thank you to everyone that replied - it has helped me make a decision.
Here is a summary of the feedback I received regarding SEM texts, plus some correspondence with Prof Byrne regarding amos versions. Overwhelmingly, Prof Byrne's text was recommended and the text I am ordering, along with the Kline book - recommended reference by my SEM trainer. Also look at Barbara Byrne's SEM book. It's very computational friendly and lots of pragmatic advice on solutions. Stan I found the book on SEM/AMOS by Barbara Byrne very informative AND readable: This is the one we use too. Not only does it cover the basics, it uses AMOS in the explanation. Melissa I found the book on SEM/AMOS by Barbara Byrne very informative AND readable: Cheers!! Albert-Jan Bollen is 'the Bible' but pretty heavy going. Loehlin J.C, Latent Variable Models, (pub. Lawrence Erlbaum) is an accessible text. Garry Gelade. I have the Kline book and another called SEM with Amos by Barbara Byrne. I would recommend the Byrne book. Best, Lisa I like the "Structural Equation Modeling with Amos - Basic Concepts, Applications, and Programming"" by Barbara M. Byrne. Multivariate Application Series, Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, Publishers, 2001. In response to a query regarding AMOS versions to Prof. Byrne: There is no problem re the version used in the 2001 book as nothing has really changed in the program with respect to all applications in the book. For example, I am currently working on a 2nd edition of the book using AMOS 16 and there is nothing different re the results. The only change relates to the layout and presentation of the output file. Since AMOS has been taken over by SPSS, the version numbers have changed each year in order that they match the SPSS program. However, I have been advised by the developer of AMOS that program remains intact. If you do decide to work with AMOS, it is important that I advise you that my original publisher was bought out by Taylor & Francis in December, 2006. As a consequence, the website for obtaining the data has changed to: http://www.researchmethodsarena.com/resources/amos.zip Barbara Byrne ********************************************* Also .... a very negative review for this text ... (amazon). Introduction to Structural Equation Modelling Using SPSS and Amos By Professor Niels Blunch Published by Sage Publications, 2008 ISBN 1412945569, 9781412945561 Bollen is 'the Bible' but pretty heavy going. Loehlin J.C, Latent Variable Models, (pub. Lawrence Erlbaum) is an accessible text. Garry Gelade. Regards, Paola "Ours has become a time-poor society, fatigued by non-physical demands and trying to compartmentalize daily living tasks. It is small wonder that physical activity is discarded in this environment" p126 (Steinbeck, 2001) P Please consider the environment before printing this email. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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