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Wuensch, Karl L

SPSS Calling Home?

Every time I boot SPSS at home my firewall tells me that it is asking permission to (1) connect to the Internet and (2) act as a server. If I deny (1) SPSS shuts down. It will run if I allow (1) and deny (2).

What is SPSS up to? I expect this sort of behavior from spyware, not statsware.

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East Carolina University, Greenville NC 27858-4353, USA, Earth
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DataMaestro

Re: SPSS Calling Home?

If you are using your laptop from work, I would guess it is the way SPSS was installed on your laptop - possibly looking for a license verification or system config.

If so, run it by your IT dept.

Good luck.

--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Wuensch, Karl L <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Wuensch, Karl L <[hidden email]>
> Subject: SPSS Calling Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 10:00 AM
> Every time I boot SPSS at home my firewall tells me that it
> is asking permission to (1) connect to the Internet and (2)
> act as a server. If I deny (1) SPSS shuts down. It will
> run if I allow (1) and deny (2).
>
> What is SPSS up to? I expect this sort of behavior from
> spyware, not statsware.
>
> ________________________________________
> Karl L. Wuensch, Professor and ECU Scholar/Teacher, Dept.
> of Psychology
> East Carolina University, Greenville NC 27858-4353, USA,
> Earth
> Voice: 252-328-9420 Fax: 252-328-6283
> [hidden email]
> http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/klw.htm
>
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Wuensch, Karl L

Re: SPSS Calling Home?

My desktop, at home. Our license allows us to run SPSS from home. The
folks at IT were unaware that SPSS connects to the Internet every time
it is booted.

Cheers,

Karl W.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:16 PM
To: [hidden email]; Wuensch, Karl L
Subject: Re: SPSS Calling Home?

If you are using your laptop from work, I would guess it is the way SPSS
was installed on your laptop - possibly looking for a license
verification or system config.

If so, run it by your IT dept.

Good luck.

--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Wuensch, Karl L <[hidden email]> wrote:

Weeks, Kyle

Re: SPSS Calling Home?

SPSS is not calling home, but does require access to certain ports for the program to communicate with the license manager. For instance, Port 5093 UDP for a basic network license setup.

Regards.

Kyle Weeks, Ph.D.
Director of Product Strategy, SPSS Statistics
SPSS Inc.
[hidden email]
www.spss.com
SPSS Inc. helps organizations turn data into insight through predictive analytics.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wuensch, Karl L
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: SPSS Calling Home?

My desktop, at home. Our license allows us to run SPSS from home. The
folks at IT were unaware that SPSS connects to the Internet every time
it is booted.

Cheers,

Karl W.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:16 PM
To: [hidden email]; Wuensch, Karl L
Subject: Re: SPSS Calling Home?

If you are using your laptop from work, I would guess it is the way SPSS
was installed on your laptop - possibly looking for a license
verification or system config.

If so, run it by your IT dept.

Good luck.

--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Wuensch, Karl L <[hidden email]> wrote:

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willers

AW: SPSS Calling Home?

Hallo,
why SPSS searches a license server although running a local installation?
Already Version 12 'called home', strange.
Regards, Reinhart Willers

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von
> Weeks, Kyle
> Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2008 16:21
> An: [hidden email]
> Betreff: Re: SPSS Calling Home?
>
> SPSS is not calling home, but does require access to certain ports for the
> program to communicate with the license manager. For instance, Port 5093
> UDP for a basic network license setup.
>
> Regards.
>
> Kyle Weeks, Ph.D.
> Director of Product Strategy, SPSS Statistics
> SPSS Inc.
> [hidden email]
> www.spss.com
> SPSS Inc. helps organizations turn data into insight through predictive
> analytics.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Wuensch, Karl L
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:20 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: SPSS Calling Home?
>
> My desktop, at home. Our license allows us to run SPSS from home. The
> folks at IT were unaware that SPSS connects to the Internet every time
> it is booted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Karl W.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:16 PM
> To: [hidden email]; Wuensch, Karl L
> Subject: Re: SPSS Calling Home?
>
> If you are using your laptop from work, I would guess it is the way SPSS
> was installed on your laptop - possibly looking for a license
> verification or system config.
>
> If so, run it by your IT dept.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Wuensch, Karl L <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > From: Wuensch, Karl L <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: SPSS Calling Home?
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 10:00 AM
> > Every time I boot SPSS at home my firewall tells me that it
> > is asking permission to (1) connect to the Internet and (2)
> > act as a server. If I deny (1) SPSS shuts down. It will
> > run if I allow (1) and deny (2).
> >
> > What is SPSS up to? I expect this sort of behavior from
> > spyware, not statsware.
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Karl L. Wuensch, Professor and ECU Scholar/Teacher, Dept.
> > of Psychology
> > East Carolina University, Greenville NC 27858-4353, USA,
> > Earth
> > Voice: 252-328-9420 Fax: 252-328-6283
> > [hidden email]
> > http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/klw.htm
> >
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Wuensch, Karl L

SPSS Calling Home? Nope, looping back

I investigated further and found that the firewall was asking for permission to send to IP. 127.0.0.1, which is the "loopback address" - that is, data directed here loops back to the host computer. My guess is that SPSS wants to go here so that it can access network services on the host computer. In other words, it is not calling home after all.

I confirmed this by disconnecting the network cable from my PC and trying to boot SPSS. If I told SPSS to allow connection to the loopback address, all went well, but if I denied permission then SPSS told me "Attempt to connect to a remote server failed inet:Local Computer:0." That warning is a bit misleading, as the "remote computer" is the host PC.

Cheers,

Karl W.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of willers
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:00 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: AW: SPSS Calling Home?

Hallo,
why SPSS searches a license server although running a local installation?
Already Version 12 'called home', strange.
Regards, Reinhart Willers

Maclennan, Graeme S.

Suppress output in OMS.

Dear SPSSers , I am trying to simulate clinical trial data, I don't want all the output, just the regression coefficients from a logistic regression dumped into an SPSS file for later treatment. Having just discovered OMS, I tried the code below, which works fine. One question, I don't want any of the output at all, this code just suppresses the table that I want to save, so my question is what do I add into my OMS command to have no output whatsoever. (I only want the final estimates also, but as this is simple I am prepared to have all iterations in there)

I am using SPSS 16.

Many thanks, Graeme.

**********************************

OMS
/SELECT TABLES
/IF COMMANDS=['Logistic Regression'] SUBTYPES=['Variables in the Equation']
/DESTINATION FORMAT=SAV NUMBERED=TableNumber_ OUTFILE='T:\logreg' VIEWER=NO.

LOGISTIC REGRESSION VARIABLES birth
/METHOD=ENTER so_iui ivf
/PRINT=CI(95)
/CRITERIA=PIN(0.05) POUT(0.10) ITERATE(20) CUT(0.5).

OMSEND.

***************************************

Graeme MacLennan
Senior Statistician
Health Services Research Unit
Health Sciences Building
University of Aberdeen
Foresterhill
Aberdeen AB25 2ZD
Tel: +44 (0)1224 553487
Fax +44 (0)1224 554580
Email: [hidden email]

The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683.

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Oliver, Richard

Re: Suppress output in OMS.

Just add the following OMS command before the one that selects the tables:

OMS SELECT ALL
/DESTINATION VIEWER=NO.

So, the whole thing looks like this:

OMS SELECT ALL
/DESTINATION VIEWER=NO.
OMS
/SELECT TABLES
/IF COMMANDS=['Logistic Regression'] SUBTYPES=['Variables in the Equation']
/DESTINATION FORMAT=SAV NUMBERED=TableNumber_ OUTFILE='T:\logreg'.

LOGISTIC REGRESSION VARIABLES birth
/METHOD=ENTER so_iui ivf
/PRINT=CI(95)
/CRITERIA=PIN(0.05) POUT(0.10) ITERATE(20) CUT(0.5).

OMSEND.

Note that the single OMSEND command applies to all preceding OMS requests. Also not that I removed "VIEWER=NO" from your OMS command, since all Viewer output is now suppressed by the preceding OMS command.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Maclennan, Graeme S.
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:17 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Suppress output in OMS.

Dear SPSSers , I am trying to simulate clinical trial data, I don't want all the output, just the regression coefficients from a logistic regression dumped into an SPSS file for later treatment. Having just discovered OMS, I tried the code below, which works fine. One question, I don't want any of the output at all, this code just suppresses the table that I want to save, so my question is what do I add into my OMS command to have no output whatsoever. (I only want the final estimates also, but as this is simple I am prepared to have all iterations in there)

I am using SPSS 16.

Many thanks, Graeme.

**********************************

OMS
/SELECT TABLES
/IF COMMANDS=['Logistic Regression'] SUBTYPES=['Variables in the Equation']
/DESTINATION FORMAT=SAV NUMBERED=TableNumber_ OUTFILE='T:\logreg' VIEWER=NO.

LOGISTIC REGRESSION VARIABLES birth
/METHOD=ENTER so_iui ivf
/PRINT=CI(95)
/CRITERIA=PIN(0.05) POUT(0.10) ITERATE(20) CUT(0.5).

OMSEND.

***************************************

Graeme MacLennan
Senior Statistician
Health Services Research Unit
Health Sciences Building
University of Aberdeen
Foresterhill
Aberdeen AB25 2ZD
Tel: +44 (0)1224 553487
Fax +44 (0)1224 554580
Email: [hidden email]

The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683.

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Jason Burke

Re: SPSS Calling Home? Nope, looping back

In reply to this post by Wuensch, Karl L

So the software is not sending encrypted packets of information to a
satellite, via an anonymous router, about softwaqre usage or the data
that I am analyzing?

Cheers,

Jason

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Wuensch, Karl L <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I investigated further and found that the firewall was asking for permission to send to IP. 127.0.0.1, which is the "loopback address" - that is, data directed here loops back to the host computer. My guess is that SPSS wants to go here so that it can access network services on the host computer. In other words, it is not calling home after all.
>
> I confirmed this by disconnecting the network cable from my PC and trying to boot SPSS. If I told SPSS to allow connection to the loopback address, all went well, but if I denied permission then SPSS told me "Attempt to connect to a remote server failed inet:Local Computer:0." That warning is a bit misleading, as the "remote computer" is the host PC.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Karl W.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of willers
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:00 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: AW: SPSS Calling Home?
>
> Hallo,
> why SPSS searches a license server although running a local installation?
> Already Version 12 'called home', strange.
> Regards, Reinhart Willers
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von
>> Weeks, Kyle
>> Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2008 16:21
>> An: [hidden email]
>> Betreff: Re: SPSS Calling Home?
>>
>> SPSS is not calling home, but does require access to certain ports for the
>> program to communicate with the license manager. For instance, Port 5093
>> UDP for a basic network license setup.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Kyle Weeks, Ph.D.
>> Director of Product Strategy, SPSS Statistics
>> SPSS Inc.
>> [hidden email]
>> www.spss.com
>> SPSS Inc. helps organizations turn data into insight through predictive
>> analytics.
>
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