Strange symbols from older SPSS output copied to Word.
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Strange symbols from older SPSS output copied to Word.
 
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I’m busy updating some tutorials for my website from 15 to 19. The originals were from 1990 in WordStar, later converted to Word. My old version of Word on my old machine displays correctly and has Normal + “SPSS Marker Set” for the font. Material on the website doesn’t, nor do extracts sent to myself by email. V348 Count óBoys Girls Col pct ó Row ó Total ó 1 ó 2 ó Q1 òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 1 ó 2 ó 3 ó 5 Human Biology ó 3.6 ó 5.3 ó 4.5 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 2 ó 11 ó 14 ó 25 General Science ó 20.0 ó 24.6 ó 22.3 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô Changing to Courier New yields V348 Count Boys Girls Col pct Row Total 1 2 Q1 1 2 3 5 Human Biology 3.6 5.3 4.5 2 11 14 25 General Science 20.0 24.6 22.3 Is there any way I can get the table lines and boxes back? They were to illustrate the differences between 15 and 18/19, but SPSS won’t give me a licence renewal code for 15, so I can’t reproduce the tables. Thanks in advance. John F Hall |
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Apparently you still have the SPSS Marker
Set font, which is a TrueType font installed, so any document format that
supports multiple fonts should be able to display this correctly if you
select the lines and apply that font just to them. To display on
a system without that font, you would probably be best off just using a
screen capture. You don't need a license for Statistics 15 in order
to use that font.
Jon Peck Senior Software Engineer, IBM [hidden email] new phone: 720-342-5621 From: John F Hall <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Date: 07/21/2011 04:34 AM Subject: [SPSSX-L] Strange symbols from older SPSS output copied to Word. Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> I’m busy updating some tutorials for my website from 15 to 19. The originals were from 1990 in WordStar, later converted to Word. My old version of Word on my old machine displays correctly and has Normal + “SPSS Marker Set” for the font. Material on the website doesn’t, nor do extracts sent to myself by email. V348 Count óBoys Girls Col pct ó Row ó Total ó 1 ó 2 ó Q1 òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 1 ó 2 ó 3 ó 5 Human Biology ó 3.6 ó 5.3 ó 4.5 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 2 ó 11 ó 14 ó 25 General Science ó 20.0 ó 24.6 ó 22.3 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô Changing to Courier New yields V348 Count Boys Girls Col pct Row Total 1 2 Q1 1 2 3 5 Human Biology 3.6 5.3 4.5 2 11 14 25 General Science 20.0 24.6 22.3 Is there any way I can get the table lines and boxes back? They were to illustrate the differences between 15 and 18/19, but SPSS won’t give me a licence renewal code for 15, so I can’t reproduce the tables. Thanks in advance. John F Hall johnfhall@... www.surveyresearch.weebly.com |
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John, If there is not a lot of output and it displays correctly on your computer screen, why not do a "print screen?" Then, cut and paste the output into your tutorial.
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From: John F Hall <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:30 am Subject: Strange symbols from older SPSS output copied to Word. I’m busy updating some tutorials for my website from 15 to 19. The originals were from 1990 in WordStar, later converted to Word. My old version of Word on my old machine displays correctly and has Normal + “SPSS Marker Set” for the font. Material on the website doesn’t, nor do extracts sent to myself by email.
V348
Count óBoys Girls
Col pct ó Row
ó Total
ó 1 ó 2 ó
Q1 òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô
1 ó 2 ó 3 ó 5
Human Biology ó 3.6 ó 5.3 ó 4.5
ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô
2 ó 11 ó 14 ó 25
General Science ó 20.0 ó 24.6 ó 22.3
ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô
Changing to Courier New yields
V348
Count Boys Girls
Col pct Row
Total
1 2
Q1
1 2 3 5
Human Biology 3.6 5.3 4.5
2 11 14 25
General Science 20.0 24.6 22.3
Is there any way I can get the table lines and boxes back? They were to illustrate the differences between 15 and 18/19, but SPSS won’t give me a licence renewal code for 15, so I can’t reproduce the tables.
Thanks in advance.
John F Hall
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John An alternative might be to use the replace function to use the ‘Replace’ functionality in Word and you can get this !! V348 Count |Boys Girls Col pct | Row | Total | 1 | 2 | Q1 --------+--------+--------+ 1 | 2 | 3 | 5 Human Biology | 3.6 | 5.3 | 4.5 +--------+--------+ 2 | 11 | 14 | 25 General Science | 20.0 | 24.6 | 22.3 +--------+--------+ Boy does that bring back memories of piles of printout !!! Best Wishes John S. Lemon DIT ( Directorate of Information Technology ) -
Student Liaison Officer Edward Wright Building: Room
G86a
Tel: +44 1224 273350 From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Charla
If there is not a lot of output and it displays correctly on your computer screen, why not do a "print screen?" Then, cut and paste the output into your tutorial. -----Original Message----- I’m busy updating some tutorials for my website from 15 to 19. The originals were from 1990 in WordStar, later converted to Word. My old version of Word on my old machine
displays correctly and has Normal + “SPSS Marker Set” for the font. Material on the website doesn’t, nor do extracts sent to myself by email. V348 Count
óBoys Girls Col pct
ó Row
ó Total
ó 1
ó 2
ó Q1
òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 1
ó 2
ó 3
ó 5 Human Biology
ó 3.6
ó 5.3
ó 4.5
ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 2
ó 11
ó 14
ó 25 General Science
ó 20.0
ó 24.6
ó 22.3
ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô Changing to Courier New yields V348 Count
óBoys Girls Col pct
ó Row
ó Total
ó 1
ó 2
ó Q1
òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 1
ó 2
ó 3
ó 5 Human Biology
ó 3.6
ó 5.3
ó 4.5
ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 2
ó 11
ó 14
ó 25 General Science
ó 20.0
ó 24.6
ó 22.3
ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô Is there any way I can get the table lines and boxes back? They were to illustrate the differences between 15 and 18/19, but SPSS won’t give me a licence renewal code
for 15, so I can’t reproduce the tables. Thanks in advance. John F Hall The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. |
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Charla, Jon Thanks for the tips. I found a copy of the original table produced by a mainframe in one of the original WordStar files. Q1 (Group) SUBJECTS TAKEN BY V348 Q.39 Sex Count :Boys Girls Col % : Row : 1 : 2 : Total Q1 --------:--------:--------: 1 : 2 : 3 : 5 Human Biology : 3.6 : 5.1 : 4.3 :--------:--------: 2 : 11 : 14 : 25 General Science : 19.6 : 23.7 : 21.7 :--------:--------: 3 : 7 : 9 : 16 European Studies : 12.5 : 15.3 : 13.9 :--------:--------: 4 : 0 : 3 : 3 Relig. Studies : 0.0 : 5.1 : 2.6 :--------:--------: 5 : 12 : 0 : 12 Design : 21.4 : 0.0 : 10.4 :--------:--------: 6 : 4 : 6 : 10 Drama : 7.1 : 10.2 : 8.7 :--------:--------: 7 : 0 : 12 : 12 Home Econ. : 0.0 : 20.3 : 10.4 :--------:--------: 8 : 1 : 4 : 5 Music : 1.8 : 6.8 : 4.3 :--------:--------: 10 : 1 : 38 : 39 Office Skills : 1.8 : 64.4 : 33.9 :--------:--------: 13 : 32 : 35 : 67 Geograph : 57.1 : 59.3 : 58.3 :--------:--------: 14 : 34 : 38 : 72 History : 60.7 : 64.4 : 62.6 :--------:--------: 15 : 33 : 10 : 43 Physics : 58.9 : 16.9 : 37.4 :--------:--------: 16 : 14 : 10 : 24 Biology : 25.0 : 16.9 : 20.9 :--------:--------: 17 : 14 : 7 : 21 Chemist. : 25.0 : 11.9 : 18.3 :--------:--------: 18 : 9 : 26 : 35 French : 16.1 : 44.1 : 30.4 :--------:--------: 19 : 8 : 6 : 14 German : 14.3 : 10.2 : 12.2 :--------:--------: 20 : 10 : 12 : 22 Art : 17.9 : 20.3 : 19.1 :--------:--------: 21 : 25 : 2 : 27 Tech. Drawing : 44.6 : 3.4 : 23.5 :--------:--------: Column 56 59 115 Percents and totals based on respondents 115 valid cases 27 missing cases It’s only a problem for people still on 15 (a lot of universities for example) and many of my (syntax-based for preference) tutorials are as much to do with the logic and process of analysing data as they are with SPSS. SPSS 19 is far superior. I’m working on tutorials in section 3.3, multiple response. MULT RESPONSE was not modified until quite recently (output in Courier, as for line-printers) and it’s interesting to see how we used to cope with limits to the length of variable names (8) and labels (20, or only 16 in two blocks of 8 in crosstabs). John From: Charla [mailto:[hidden email]]
If there is not a lot of output and it displays correctly on your computer screen, why not do a "print screen?" Then, cut and paste the output into your tutorial. -----Original Message----- I’m busy updating some tutorials for my website from 15 to 19. The originals were from 1990 in WordStar, later converted to Word. My old version of Word on my old machine displays correctly and has Normal + “SPSS Marker Set” for the font. Material on the website doesn’t, nor do extracts sent to myself by email. V348 Count óBoys Girls Col pct ó Row ó Total ó 1 ó 2 ó Q1 òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 1 ó 2 ó 3 ó 5 Human Biology ó 3.6 ó 5.3 ó 4.5 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 2 ó 11 ó 14 ó 25 General Science ó 20.0 ó 24.6 ó 22.3 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô Changing to Courier New yields V348 Count óBoys Girls Col pct ó Row ó Total ó 1 ó 2 ó Q1 òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 1 ó 2 ó 3 ó 5 Human Biology ó 3.6 ó 5.3 ó 4.5 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 2 ó 11 ó 14 ó 25 General Science ó 20.0 ó 24.6 ó 22.3 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô Is there any way I can get the table lines and boxes back? They were to illustrate the differences between 15 and 18/19, but SPSS won’t give me a licence renewal code for 15, so I can’t reproduce the tables. Thanks in advance. John F Hall |
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Tried that: it just replaces one lot of symbols with different ones. I’ve managed to produce something from 15 (by reducing the font-size and using MWSnap) and located some 1989 output from the SPSSX mainframe: both examples are now in the appendix to tutorial 3.3.2a: Printout – yes indeed. Fine when it came out of someone else’s budget, but at least you could see huge correlation matrices on one page. The nicest thing about the Windows version is you don’t need to print anything and if you make a mistake, just run it again. When I was at PNL, Jim Ring wrote a special front-end to limit files to two editions, otherwise students ran out of disk allocation pretty quickly. When using large *.sys files from the ASS: area, they had to be reminded to use /KEEP, otherwise it was like trying to empty a milk-tanker into an egg cup. From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lemon, John John An alternative might be to use the replace function to use the ‘Replace’ functionality in Word and you can get this !! V348 Count |Boys Girls Col pct | Row | Total | 1 | 2 | Q1 --------+--------+--------+ 1 | 2 | 3 | 5 Human Biology | 3.6 | 5.3 | 4.5 +--------+--------+ 2 | 11 | 14 | 25 General Science | 20.0 | 24.6 | 22.3 +--------+--------+ Boy does that bring back memories of piles of printout !!! Best Wishes John S. Lemon DIT ( Directorate of Information Technology ) - Student Liaison Officer Edward Wright Building: Room G86a Tel: +44 1224 273350 From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Charla
If there is not a lot of output and it displays correctly on your computer screen, why not do a "print screen?" Then, cut and paste the output into your tutorial. -----Original Message----- I’m busy updating some tutorials for my website from 15 to 19. The originals were from 1990 in WordStar, later converted to Word. My old version of Word on my old machine displays correctly and has Normal + “SPSS Marker Set” for the font. Material on the website doesn’t, nor do extracts sent to myself by email. V348 Count óBoys Girls Col pct ó Row ó Total ó 1 ó 2 ó Q1 òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 1 ó 2 ó 3 ó 5 Human Biology ó 3.6 ó 5.3 ó 4.5 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 2 ó 11 ó 14 ó 25 General Science ó 20.0 ó 24.6 ó 22.3 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô Changing to Courier New yields V348 Count óBoys Girls Col pct ó Row ó Total ó 1 ó 2 ó Q1 òòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 1 ó 2 ó 3 ó 5 Human Biology ó 3.6 ó 5.3 ó 4.5 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô 2 ó 11 ó 14 ó 25 General Science ó 20.0 ó 24.6 ó 22.3 ôòòòòòòòòôòòòòòòòòô Is there any way I can get the table lines and boxes back? They were to illustrate the differences between 15 and 18/19, but SPSS won’t give me a licence renewal code for 15, so I can’t reproduce the tables. Thanks in advance. John F Hall
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