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Syntax for graphs?

Denise-22
I am relatively new to using syntax for SPSS and am wondering if it is
possible to use syntax to format graphs instead of using the Interactive
Graph tool? Specifically, I am looking to have syntax that addresses how
values in the graph are labeled, location of the legend, whether the
legend title is hidden or not, etc.

Also, does anyone know if you can use syntax to export a particular graph
to MS Word once it is created? And if so, how you would do that?

Thank you!

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Re: Syntax for graphs?

ViAnn Beadle
You'll have to be more specific for definitive answers.

What kinds of values are you talking about in the graph?
What kind of legend and where is it moved to?
Legend title is controlled by syntax in GGRAPH but not in IGRAPH or GRAPH. I
think that it can be hidden and saved to a chart template which is then
applied via syntax for subsequent charts.
OMS can be used to export any sort of output to RTF format (one that Word
reads).

What release of SPSS are you using?

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Denise
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Subject: Syntax for graphs?

I am relatively new to using syntax for SPSS and am wondering if it is
possible to use syntax to format graphs instead of using the Interactive
Graph tool? Specifically, I am looking to have syntax that addresses how
values in the graph are labeled, location of the legend, whether the
legend title is hidden or not, etc.

Also, does anyone know if you can use syntax to export a particular graph
to MS Word once it is created? And if so, how you would do that?

Thank you!

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Re: Syntax for graphs?

John F Hall
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Denise

I'm a staunch proponent of syntax, but I'm not sure about the syntax route
on this one, so I'd have to start with the menus.  You can copy charts from
the Viewer to Word by clicking on the chart, [CTRL]C to copy, switch to your
Word doc (which must already be open) then [CTRL]V to paste (right clicking
etc. takes too long).  I've had a similar problem (loses the title) but it's
quicker for me to write my own title in the Word doc rather than waste
precious time ferreting through menus.  Anything more complicated than a
title would have me into the menus.

A neat trick is to use the menu route to produce a few analyses (in your
case graphs) using various options, then in the Viewer copy the syntax
pasted by SPSS into a Word or new SPSS Syntax file and save it.  You can
then cannibalise/edit it for later use.  I've been using SPSS since 1971,
but in 2002 I was new to Word, Windows and SPSS for Windows.  I needed a
chart for a tutorial, but didn't know the syntax so I used PASTE in SPSS11,
not just for the chart I wanted, but to have an example of the syntax for a
tutorial.  ViAnn will say I should have used the Help menu, but that would
have taken too long.  I hate to admit it, but the menu was quicker.  I now
have SPSS15 which  automatically pastes syntax to the viewer.

If you do this for simple data transformations, tabulations and
straightforward statistics, you get far more syntax than you need.  The
defaults are usually sufficient, so abbreviated and minimum syntax does for
most things.  Since you are new to syntax, have a look at my new website
http://surveyresearch.weebly.com/ where you will find gentle step-by-step
SPSS tutorials with full sets of screen dumps.  Some tutorials are still on
another site, but there are links to them from here.  Most transformations
and analyses are demonstrated twice, first using syntax, then using the
drop-down menus: I know which I prefer, but then I'm biased.

You'll know what I mean if you look at the slide-show exercises from Julie
Pallant SPSS Survival Manual and appreciate how much stress  they caused me.

John Hall

----- Original Message -----
From: "Denise" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:52 PM
Subject: Syntax for graphs?


>
> I am relatively new to using syntax for SPSS and am wondering if it is
> possible to use syntax to format graphs instead of using the Interactive
> Graph tool? Specifically, I am looking to have syntax that addresses how
> values in the graph are labeled, location of the legend, whether the
> legend title is hidden or not, etc.
>
> Also, does anyone know if you can use syntax to export a particular graph
> to MS Word once it is created? And if so, how you would do that?
>
> Thank you!
>
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> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
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> INFO REFCARD
>
>

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Re: Syntax for graphs?

John F Hall
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Denise
 
A couple of links got edited out of my previous reply (in plain text) so I'm resending them in RTF.
 
Replication of exercises from Pallant: http://surveyresearch.weebly.com/7-old-dog-old-tricks.html (Ppt show, 106 slides comparing menus to syntax for the same task, clearly demonstrating the superiority of syntax for everything she does: joke at end which you may or may not get)
 
http://surveyresearch.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/9/8/2998485/how_i_learned_to_love_computers.gif  (Small and quick, but probably how you might feel after several hours wrestling with drop-down menus in SPSS!)
 
Hope they work this time and that you enjoy the show.
 
John
 
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Subject: Syntax for graphs?


I am relatively new to using syntax for SPSS and am wondering if it is
possible to use syntax to format graphs instead of using the Interactive
Graph tool? Specifically, I am looking to have syntax that addresses how
values in the graph are labeled, location of the legend, whether the
legend title is hidden or not, etc.

Also, does anyone know if you can use syntax to export a particular graph
to MS Word once it is created? And if so, how you would do that?

Thank you!

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Re: Syntax for graphs?

Denise-22
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Thank you for the feedback!

What kinds of values are you talking about in the graph? There are some
pie graphs with basic demographics (gender, ethnicity, tenure, etc.) and
bar graphs showing mean scores for a variety of questions we posed.

What kind of legend and where is it moved to? Its the legend that is
automatically created for the graphs, I just prefer it to be below the
graph rather than to the side of it. The legend title shows up as the
variable name that I am graphing, which is what I am trying to turn off.

What release of SPSS are you using? I am currently using 15.0

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