Tabular statistical output with GENLINMIXED
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Tabular statistical output with GENLINMIXED
 
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I am using the GENLINMIXED procedure in SPSS 19 and want to see the output with the regression coefficients, SE's, p values as the default display. Currently, such information is displayed like a graphical path diagram. In order to get a traditional display of the output using a regression table, I need to double click on the output window to bring up the model viewer, then click on the box with the path style output, then click the pulldown to change the "style" from "diagram" to "table", then I need to click on the "coefficient" heading within the table to get the full table to be displayed. All of this clicking is driving me nuts. Does anyone know how to specify that the default behavior is to display this table without the runaround of all of this clicking? Thanks Michael Mitchell ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Michael,
I have not figured out a way to resolve this issue either. One should not have to double click several times to get to the tables. Quite taxing, indeed. I hope there is a simple solution. If I come across a solution while continuing to explore this procedure, I will be certain to write back. Ryan On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Michael Mitchell <[hidden email]> wrote: > Greetings > > I am using the GENLINMIXED procedure in SPSS 19 and want to see the > output with the regression coefficients, SE's, p values as the default > display. Currently, such information is displayed like a graphical > path diagram. In order to get a traditional display of the output > using a regression table, I need to double click on the output window > to bring up the model viewer, then click on the box with the path > style output, then click the pulldown to change the "style" from > "diagram" to "table", then I need to click on the "coefficient" > heading within the table to get the full table to be displayed. All of > this clicking is driving me nuts. > > Does anyone know how to specify that the default behavior is to > display this table without the runaround of all of this clicking? > > Thanks > > Michael Mitchell > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
Re: Tabular statistical output with GENLINMIXED
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Dear Ryan
Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one on this. I thought I was missing something completely obvious. I am flummoxed that one of the most advanced statistical commands offered by SPSS should be presented in a manner that makes it so difficult to obtain normal display output. In order to find out the N of cases, N of clusters, regression coefficients, and variance components, I had to click and activate four different display panes. And, once I activated one pane, the other vanished, so I could not simply see these four common pieces of information at once. Arrrgghhhh! Thanks, Michael N. Mitchell Data Management Using Stata - http://www.stata.com/bookstore/dmus.html A Visual Guide to Stata Graphics - http://www.stata.com/bookstore/vgsg.html Stata tidbit of the week - http://www.MichaelNormanMitchell.com On 2010-12-02 4.13 PM, R B wrote: > Michael, > > I have not figured out a way to resolve this issue either. One should > not have to double click several times to get to the tables. Quite > taxing, indeed. I hope there is a simple solution. If I come across a > solution while continuing to explore this procedure, I will be certain > to write back. > > Ryan > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Michael Mitchell > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Greetings >> >> I am using the GENLINMIXED procedure in SPSS 19 and want to see the >> output with the regression coefficients, SE's, p values as the default >> display. Currently, such information is displayed like a graphical >> path diagram. In order to get a traditional display of the output >> using a regression table, I need to double click on the output window >> to bring up the model viewer, then click on the box with the path >> style output, then click the pulldown to change the "style" from >> "diagram" to "table", then I need to click on the "coefficient" >> heading within the table to get the full table to be displayed. All of >> this clicking is driving me nuts. >> >> Does anyone know how to specify that the default behavior is to >> display this table without the runaround of all of this clicking? >> >> Thanks >> >> Michael Mitchell >> >> ===================== >> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >> command. To leave the list, send the command >> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >> INFO REFCARD >> > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
Re: Tabular statistical output with GENLINMIXED
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I'm still on v18, so I've not had the pleasure of dealing with this yet. Just wondering if one could get around it by using OMS to send the desired bits of output to data sets or files (data files or some other desired format)? It should not be necessary to take steps like this, of course, but it might provide a half-decent work-around until the viewer problem is fixed.
HTH. Bruce
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I know that I am making a ridiculous request but can someone affiliated with
SPSS explain the rationale for making access to results so difficult in this case? Why should anyone ever have to "click" through on the output to get results that should out in the open? -Mike Palij New York University [hidden email] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael N. Mitchell" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Tabular statistical output with GENLINMIXED > Dear Ryan > > Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one on this. I thought I was missing > something completely obvious. I am flummoxed that one of the most advanced statistical > commands offered by SPSS should be presented in a manner that makes it so difficult to > obtain normal display output. In order to find out the N of cases, N of clusters, > regression coefficients, and variance components, I had to click and activate four > different display panes. And, once I activated one pane, the other vanished, so I could > not simply see these four common pieces of information at once. Arrrgghhhh! > > Thanks, > > Michael N. Mitchell > Data Management Using Stata - http://www.stata.com/bookstore/dmus.html > A Visual Guide to Stata Graphics - http://www.stata.com/bookstore/vgsg.html > Stata tidbit of the week - http://www.MichaelNormanMitchell.com > > > > On 2010-12-02 4.13 PM, R B wrote: >> Michael, >> >> I have not figured out a way to resolve this issue either. One should >> not have to double click several times to get to the tables. Quite >> taxing, indeed. I hope there is a simple solution. If I come across a >> solution while continuing to explore this procedure, I will be certain >> to write back. >> >> Ryan >> >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Michael Mitchell >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Greetings >>> >>> I am using the GENLINMIXED procedure in SPSS 19 and want to see the >>> output with the regression coefficients, SE's, p values as the default >>> display. Currently, such information is displayed like a graphical >>> path diagram. In order to get a traditional display of the output >>> using a regression table, I need to double click on the output window >>> to bring up the model viewer, then click on the box with the path >>> style output, then click the pulldown to change the "style" from >>> "diagram" to "table", then I need to click on the "coefficient" >>> heading within the table to get the full table to be displayed. All of >>> this clicking is driving me nuts. >>> >>> Does anyone know how to specify that the default behavior is to >>> display this table without the runaround of all of this clicking? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Michael Mitchell >>> >>> ===================== >>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >>> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >>> command. To leave the list, send the command >>> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >>> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >>> INFO REFCARD >>> >> >> ===================== >> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >> command. To leave the list, send the command >> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >> INFO REFCARD > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi Bruce,
From what I can tell, there are only three Table Subtype Identifers for the GENLINMIXED procedure, which include Case Processing Summary, Notes, and Warnings. I don't use OMS all that often, though. Maybe there is something I'm missing. Ryan On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm still on v18, so I've not had the pleasure of dealing with this yet. > Just wondering if one could get around it by using OMS to send the desired > bits of output to data sets or files (data files or some other desired > format)? It should not be necessary to take steps like this, of course, but > it might provide a half-decent work-around until the viewer problem is > fixed. > > HTH. > Bruce > > > Michael N. Mitchell wrote: >> >> Dear Ryan >> >> Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one on this. I thought I >> was missing >> something completely obvious. I am flummoxed that one of the most advanced >> statistical >> commands offered by SPSS should be presented in a manner that makes it so >> difficult to >> obtain normal display output. In order to find out the N of cases, N of >> clusters, >> regression coefficients, and variance components, I had to click and >> activate four >> different display panes. And, once I activated one pane, the other >> vanished, so I could >> not simply see these four common pieces of information at once. >> Arrrgghhhh! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Michael N. Mitchell >> Data Management Using Stata - >> http://www.stata.com/bookstore/dmus.html >> A Visual Guide to Stata Graphics - >> http://www.stata.com/bookstore/vgsg.html >> Stata tidbit of the week - http://www.MichaelNormanMitchell.com >> >> >> >> On 2010-12-02 4.13 PM, R B wrote: >>> Michael, >>> >>> I have not figured out a way to resolve this issue either. One should >>> not have to double click several times to get to the tables. Quite >>> taxing, indeed. I hope there is a simple solution. If I come across a >>> solution while continuing to explore this procedure, I will be certain >>> to write back. >>> >>> Ryan >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Michael Mitchell >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Greetings >>>> >>>> I am using the GENLINMIXED procedure in SPSS 19 and want to see the >>>> output with the regression coefficients, SE's, p values as the default >>>> display. Currently, such information is displayed like a graphical >>>> path diagram. In order to get a traditional display of the output >>>> using a regression table, I need to double click on the output window >>>> to bring up the model viewer, then click on the box with the path >>>> style output, then click the pulldown to change the "style" from >>>> "diagram" to "table", then I need to click on the "coefficient" >>>> heading within the table to get the full table to be displayed. All of >>>> this clicking is driving me nuts. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know how to specify that the default behavior is to >>>> display this table without the runaround of all of this clicking? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Michael Mitchell >>>> >>>> ===================== >>>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >>>> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >>>> command. To leave the list, send the command >>>> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >>>> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >>>> INFO REFCARD >>>> >>> >>> ===================== >>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >>> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >>> command. To leave the list, send the command >>> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >>> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >>> INFO REFCARD >> >> ===================== >> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >> command. To leave the list, send the command >> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >> INFO REFCARD >> >> > > > ----- > -- > Bruce Weaver > [hidden email] > http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/ > > "When all else fails, RTFM." > > NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly. > To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above. > > -- > View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/Tabular-statistical-output-with-GENLINMIXED-tp3290092p3291415.html > Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. 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