Dear All,
I am a beginner and please help me to understand pertaining to clementine. While using clementine (8.1 version) for neural application, i am getting the importance of input variables. But Is there any way I can evaluate models by changing number of hidden layers by comparing RMSE or goodness of fit (R SQUARE)indices OR MAPE value. List dedicated to clementine is quite silent - so I took the liberty to requesting for your valuable assistance. Please help. With regards Euclid |
It sounds like you want to do model comparison.
The difficulty is that you can run different families of models or models that are not strictly nested so that the usual statistical test for model comparison is not known. One idea I've seen is to obtain estimates of the true error from each method and then perform a statistical test to assess whether the errors differ statistically. The devil is in the details and is likely to be computationally intensive or do-able only with some non-trivial effort in the package of your choice. You need to employ something like k-fold crossvalidation or bootstrapping to get estimates of the true error. Witten and Frank "Data Mining, 2nd edition," published by Morgan Kaufmann, has a nice general discussion in its Chapter 5, plus some specific suggestions on a statistical test you could perform in Section 5.5. -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Euclid Associates Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:59 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: clementine assistance -beginner's question Dear All, I am a beginner and please help me to understand pertaining to clementine. While using clementine (8.1 version) for neural application, i am getting the importance of input variables. But Is there any way I can evaluate models by changing number of hidden layers by comparing RMSE or goodness of fit (R SQUARE)indices OR MAPE value. List dedicated to clementine is quite silent - so I took the liberty to requesting for your valuable assistance. Please help. With regards Euclid |
hi Euclid,
Could you tell me the name/address of the Clementine list, or perhaps other good resources about this program? I have to start working with this program in April and I'd like to make a headstart -- thank you! Cheers, Albert-Jan --- Anthony Babinec <[hidden email]> wrote: > It sounds like you want to do model comparison. > The difficulty is that you can run different > families of models or models that are not > strictly nested so that the usual statistical > test for model comparison is not known. > > One idea I've seen is to obtain estimates of the > true error from each method and then perform a > statistical test to assess whether the errors > differ statistically. The devil is in the details > and is likely to be computationally intensive or > do-able only with some non-trivial effort in the > package of your > choice. You need to employ something like k-fold > crossvalidation > or bootstrapping to get estimates of the true error. > > Witten and Frank "Data Mining, 2nd edition," > published > by Morgan Kaufmann, has a nice general discussion > in its Chapter 5, plus some specific suggestions > on a statistical test you could perform in Section > 5.5. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Euclid Associates > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:59 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: clementine assistance -beginner's question > > Dear All, > I am a beginner and please help me to understand > pertaining to clementine. > > While using clementine (8.1 version) for neural > application, i am getting > the importance of input variables. But Is there any > way I can evaluate > models by changing number of hidden layers by > comparing RMSE or goodness of > fit (R SQUARE)indices OR MAPE value. List dedicated > to clementine is quite > silent - so I took the liberty to requesting for > your valuable assistance. > > Please help. > With regards > Euclid > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index |
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Hi,
You can find information about the SPSS Clementine user group from; http://www.spss.com/clementine/clug.htm You can view the CLUG archive from; http://cammlist1.spss.com/pipermail/clug-l/ There is also a non-SPSS forum that contains some Clementine examples and geeky Clementine related stuff. Not the place to ask simple tech support questions, but something weird is welcome! :) http://www.kdkeys.net/forums/70/ShowForum.aspx Cheers Tim |
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