installing case studies/tutorials in version 21
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I had version 21 installed several months ago. I am trying to access the tutorials and cases studies for the first time.
However they will not load. The link opens in chrome, my default browser, then just spins. Is there something I still need to do in the installation to access these? TIA Carol |
Re: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21
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There shouldn't be anything additional
you need to do. With version 21, there be a long delay when the help system
is launched for the first time in a session. You might try changing to
different default browser.
Rick Oliver Senior Information Developer IBM Business Analytics (SPSS) E-mail: [hidden email] From: parisec <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email], Date: 01/27/2014 04:28 PM Subject: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> I had version 21 installed several months ago. I am trying to access the tutorials and cases studies for the first time. However they will not load. The link opens in chrome, my default browser, then just spins. Is there something I still need to do in the installation to access these? TIA Carol -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/installing-case-studies-tutorials-in-version-21-tp5724179.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Have you installed SPSS21patch? From: parisec [via SPSSX Discussion] [mailto:[hidden email]] I had version 21 installed several months ago. I am trying to access the tutorials and cases studies for the first time. If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: To start a new topic under SPSSX Discussion, email [hidden email] |
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I don't think I have yet. When did it become available?
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Hi Carol
It takes a full 5 mins to open in Firefox on my system. It looked to me that it was opening a page on the IBM website. I was looking up the Statistics Coach and when it opened it was not as good as what they used to have in the printed manuals prior to about Version 14, when they took out all the annotated examples and just left them as little more syntax manuals (this is for things like Advanced Stats etc) See if you can track down one of the older manuals in your library. Failing that maybe try one of Marija Norusis' excellent guides. Regards, Adrian Adrian Barnett Project Officer Educational Measurement and Analysis Data and Information Systems Department for Education and Child Development "Children and young people are at the centre of everything we do" -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of parisec Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 8:54 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 I had version 21 installed several months ago. I am trying to access the tutorials and cases studies for the first time. However they will not load. The link opens in chrome, my default browser, then just spins. Is there something I still need to do in the installation to access these? TIA Carol -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/installing-case-studies-tutorials-in-version-21-tp5724179.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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thank you.
I have both of these refereces and they are good. in fact, i put the syntax reference guide on my desktop because i can't get the online one to load. What i really want to access through is one of the case studies. I went through this several years ago and found it really helpful. All of the files under "help" are being pulled from my computer name even though it looks like it's pulling them from a website. I am going to see if the most recent patch was installed. I.T. did the installation. I also wonder if maybe i need to be more patient! Does it take a full 5 minutes every time you call it up or just the first time? Thanks Carol -----Original Message----- From: Barnett, Adrian (DECD) [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 4:04 PM To: Parise, Carol A.; [hidden email] Subject: RE: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 Hi Carol It takes a full 5 mins to open in Firefox on my system. It looked to me that it was opening a page on the IBM website. I was looking up the Statistics Coach and when it opened it was not as good as what they used to have in the printed manuals prior to about Version 14, when they took out all the annotated examples and just left them as little more syntax manuals (this is for things like Advanced Stats etc) See if you can track down one of the older manuals in your library. Failing that maybe try one of Marija Norusis' excellent guides. Regards, Adrian Adrian Barnett Project Officer Educational Measurement and Analysis Data and Information Systems Department for Education and Child Development "Children and young people are at the centre of everything we do" -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of parisec Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 8:54 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 I had version 21 installed several months ago. I am trying to access the tutorials and cases studies for the first time. However they will not load. The link opens in chrome, my default browser, then just spins. Is there something I still need to do in the installation to access these? TIA Carol -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/installing-case-studies-tutorials-in-version-21-tp5724179.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi Carol
Given what I found when I got there, and how long it took, I wasn't keen on doing it a second time, so I'm afraid I can't help on the load time for subsequent sessions. I did try this on two widely separated occasions (months apart) and the load time was consistent. The lengthy load time made a sort of sense when it appeared to be due to an external website, but if the files are really coming off my own system, it's a pretty poor effort. Starting SPSS 22 seems to take a similar amount of time too. My colleagues and I go make a cup of coffee on starting it, and tend to leave it running overnight so we don't have to wait so often. Regards, Adrian Adrian Barnett Project Officer Educational Measurement and Analysis Data and Information Systems Department for Education and Child Development "Children and young people are at the centre of everything we do" -----Original Message----- From: Parise, Carol A. [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:14 AM To: Barnett, Adrian (DECD); [hidden email] Subject: RE: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 thank you. I have both of these refereces and they are good. in fact, i put the syntax reference guide on my desktop because i can't get the online one to load. What i really want to access through is one of the case studies. I went through this several years ago and found it really helpful. All of the files under "help" are being pulled from my computer name even though it looks like it's pulling them from a website. I am going to see if the most recent patch was installed. I.T. did the installation. I also wonder if maybe i need to be more patient! Does it take a full 5 minutes every time you call it up or just the first time? Thanks Carol -----Original Message----- From: Barnett, Adrian (DECD) [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 4:04 PM To: Parise, Carol A.; [hidden email] Subject: RE: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 Hi Carol It takes a full 5 mins to open in Firefox on my system. It looked to me that it was opening a page on the IBM website. I was looking up the Statistics Coach and when it opened it was not as good as what they used to have in the printed manuals prior to about Version 14, when they took out all the annotated examples and just left them as little more syntax manuals (this is for things like Advanced Stats etc) See if you can track down one of the older manuals in your library. Failing that maybe try one of Marija Norusis' excellent guides. Regards, Adrian Adrian Barnett Project Officer Educational Measurement and Analysis Data and Information Systems Department for Education and Child Development "Children and young people are at the centre of everything we do" -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of parisec Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 8:54 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 I had version 21 installed several months ago. I am trying to access the tutorials and cases studies for the first time. However they will not load. The link opens in chrome, my default browser, then just spins. Is there something I still need to do in the installation to access these? TIA Carol -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/installing-case-studies-tutorials-in-version-21-tp5724179.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
Re: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21
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ODD: SPSS 22 loads in about 10 seconds on my 2007 MBP running Vista on Bootcamp.
The Help>Case studies takes about 5 seconds. Takes a bit longer on my HP ENVY running Windoze 8.1. ----
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Hi Adrian,
The "Statistics Coach" is intended to guide people to a particular procedure, but does not explain how to use or interpret output from that procedure. The "Case Studies" are probably closer to what you're looking for. Alex > -----Original Message----- > From: Barnett, Adrian (DECD) [mailto:Adrian.Barnett2@.gov] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 4:04 PM > To: Parise, Carol A.; SPSSX-L@.UGA > Subject: RE: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 > > Hi Carol > It takes a full 5 mins to open in Firefox on my system. It looked to me > that it was opening a page on the IBM website. I was looking up the > Statistics Coach and when it opened it was not as good as what they used > to have in the printed manuals prior to about Version 14, when they took > out all the annotated examples and just left them as little more syntax > manuals (this is for things like Advanced Stats etc) > > See if you can track down one of the older manuals in your library. > Failing that maybe try one of Marija Norusis' excellent guides. > > Regards, > > Adrian > > > Adrian Barnett > Project Officer > Educational Measurement and Analysis > Data and Information Systems > Department for Education and Child Development > > "Children and young people are at the centre of everything we do" > |
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Hi David
I hadn't tried re-loading the Case Studies in 22, given the 21 experience. In the light of what you and Jon have reported about your load times under 22, I just did it again now and it took about a minute (Win 7 Enterprise, i7, 8GB, Intel SSD, Firefox). Jon says the SPSS load time is probably our virus scanner, which in our case is McAfee Enterprise. It does have the ability to bring my system to a standstill for half an hour during a full scan so perhaps that's what is responsible. However I don't understand why it is only SPSS which takes so long to load. Biggish things like Mapinfo and Office load up as normal, as of course does everything else except for SPSS. Version 21 was the same. I can't recall at which release this behaviour began but it certainly wasn't always like this. Regards, Adrian Adrian Barnett Project Officer Educational Measurement and Analysis Data and Information Systems Department for Education and Child Development "Children and young people are at the centre of everything we do" -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Marso Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 3:22 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 ODD: SPSS 22 loads in about 10 seconds on my 2007 MBP running Vista on Bootcamp. The Help>Case studies takes about 5 seconds. Takes a bit longer on my HP ENVY running Windoze 8.1. ---- Barnett, Adrian (DECD) wrote > Hi Carol > Given what I found when I got there, and how long it took, I wasn't > keen on doing it a second time, so I'm afraid I can't help on the load > time for subsequent sessions. I did try this on two widely separated > occasions (months apart) and the load time was consistent. > > The lengthy load time made a sort of sense when it appeared to be due > to an external website, but if the files are really coming off my own > system, it's a pretty poor effort. Starting SPSS 22 seems to take a > similar amount of time too. My colleagues and I go make a cup of > coffee on starting it, and tend to leave it running overnight so we don't have to wait so often. > > > Regards, > > Adrian > > > Adrian Barnett > Project Officer > Educational Measurement and Analysis > Data and Information Systems > Department for Education and Child Development > > "Children and young people are at the centre of everything we do" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Parise, Carol A. [mailto: > PariseC@ > ] > Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:14 AM > To: Barnett, Adrian (DECD); > SPSSX-L@.UGA > Subject: RE: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 > > thank you. > > I have both of these refereces and they are good. in fact, i put the > syntax reference guide on my desktop because i can't get the online > one to load. What i really want to access through is one of the case > studies. I went through this several years ago and found it really > helpful. All of the files under "help" are being pulled from my > computer name even though it looks like it's pulling them from a website. > > I am going to see if the most recent patch was installed. I.T. did the > installation. > > I also wonder if maybe i need to be more patient! Does it take a full > 5 minutes every time you call it up or just the first time? > > Thanks > Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barnett, Adrian (DECD) [mailto: > Adrian.Barnett2@.gov > ] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 4:04 PM > To: Parise, Carol A.; > SPSSX-L@.UGA > Subject: RE: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 > > Hi Carol > It takes a full 5 mins to open in Firefox on my system. It looked to > me that it was opening a page on the IBM website. I was looking up the > Statistics Coach and when it opened it was not as good as what they > used to have in the printed manuals prior to about Version 14, when > they took out all the annotated examples and just left them as little > more syntax manuals (this is for things like Advanced Stats etc) > > See if you can track down one of the older manuals in your library. > Failing that maybe try one of Marija Norusis' excellent guides. > > Regards, > > Adrian > > > Adrian Barnett > Project Officer > Educational Measurement and Analysis > Data and Information Systems > Department for Education and Child Development > > "Children and young people are at the centre of everything we do" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto: > SPSSX-L@.UGA > ] On Behalf Of parisec > Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 8:54 AM > To: > SPSSX-L@.UGA > Subject: installing case studies/tutorials in version 21 > > I had version 21 installed several months ago. I am trying to access > the tutorials and cases studies for the first time. > > However they will not load. The link opens in chrome, my default > browser, then just spins. > > Is there something I still need to do in the installation to access these? > > TIA > > Carol > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/installing-case-studies- > tutorials-in-version-21-tp5724179.html > Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > LISTSERV@.UGA > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the > list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to > manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > LISTSERV@.UGA > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the > list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to > manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ----- Please reply to the list and not to my personal email. Those desiring my consulting or training services please feel free to email me. --- "Nolite dare sanctum canibus neque mittatis margaritas vestras ante porcos ne forte conculcent eas pedibus suis." Cum es damnatorum possederunt porcos iens ut salire off sanguinum cliff in abyssum?" -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/installing-case-studies-tutorials-in-version-21-tp5724179p5724194.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. 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Adrian,
Hard to say I tend to boot my system every few days, sometimes only once a week. Depends upon what kind of crapware decides it needs to be updated and/or whether at some point the system slows to resembling a glacial process. Meanwhile, SPSS is usually loaded. I just have the standard Win8.1 virus stuff running (No Norton, McAfee, etc).
Please reply to the list and not to my personal email.
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