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can someone plz explain what m-estimators are. can i use these to smooth my data set? thx.
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actually what im looking to do is called robust smoothing. is m-estimators robust smoothing? or if not, does anyone know how to do robust smoothing in spss? thx


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can someone plz explain what m-estimators are. can i use these to smooth my data set? thx.
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Re: m-estimators

vlad simion
Hi,

As I know, robust smoothing can be done in Spss with Time Series Analysis.
Take a look at Trends option from Spss Command Syntax Reference.

Cheers,
Vlad

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, jimjohn <[hidden email]> wrote:

> actually what im looking to do is called robust smoothing. is m-estimators
> robust smoothing? or if not, does anyone know how to do robust smoothing
> in
> spss? thx
>
>
>
> jimjohn wrote:
> >
> > can someone plz explain what m-estimators are. can i use these to smooth
> > my data set? thx.
> >
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Re: m-estimators

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thx


vlady wrote
Hi,

As I know, robust smoothing can be done in Spss with Time Series Analysis.
Take a look at Trends option from Spss Command Syntax Reference.

Cheers,
Vlad

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, jimjohn <azam.khan@utoronto.ca> wrote:

> actually what im looking to do is called robust smoothing. is m-estimators
> robust smoothing? or if not, does anyone know how to do robust smoothing
> in
> spss? thx
>
>
>
> jimjohn wrote:
> >
> > can someone plz explain what m-estimators are. can i use these to smooth
> > my data set? thx.
> >
>
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i didnt really find anything in the command syntax reference though. basically i have a time series data and the data has become very volatile with big jumps and im looking for a way to smoothe this series. but i dont want to use moving averages or exponential smoothing, instead i want to use something that will do something with the outliers such that my standard deviation is not as high. any ideas? thx.




vlady wrote
Hi,

As I know, robust smoothing can be done in Spss with Time Series Analysis.
Take a look at Trends option from Spss Command Syntax Reference.

Cheers,
Vlad

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, jimjohn <azam.khan@utoronto.ca> wrote:

> actually what im looking to do is called robust smoothing. is m-estimators
> robust smoothing? or if not, does anyone know how to do robust smoothing
> in
> spss? thx
>
>
>
> jimjohn wrote:
> >
> > can someone plz explain what m-estimators are. can i use these to smooth
> > my data set? thx.
> >
>
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Re: m-estimators

vlad simion
hi,

you can try use a transformation (log transformation for example), or
standardize your variables, but i don't think this will solve your problem
if you have a time series data
maybe someone else more experienced can give you some advice

cheers,
vlad


On 2/22/08, jimjohn <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> i didnt really find anything in the command syntax reference though.
> basically i have a time series data and the data has become very volatile
> with big jumps and im looking for a way to smoothe this series. but i dont
> want to use moving averages or exponential smoothing, instead i want to
> use
> something that will do something with the outliers such that my standard
> deviation is not as high. any ideas? thx.
>
>
>
>
>
> vlady wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > As I know, robust smoothing can be done in Spss with Time Series
> Analysis.
> > Take a look at Trends option from Spss Command Syntax Reference.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Vlad
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, jimjohn <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> actually what im looking to do is called robust smoothing. is
> >> m-estimators
> >> robust smoothing? or if not, does anyone know how to do robust
> smoothing
> >> in
> >> spss? thx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> jimjohn wrote:
> >> >
> >> > can someone plz explain what m-estimators are. can i use these to
> >> smooth
> >> > my data set? thx.
> >> >
> >>
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Re: m-estimators

Peck, Jon
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You might try the running medians choice in CREATE...

 

Running medians. Median of a span of series values surrounding and including the current value. The span is the number of series values used to compute the median. If the span is even, the median is computed by averaging each pair of uncentered medians. The number of cases with the system-missing value at the beginning and at the end of the series for a span of n is equal to n/2 for even span values and (n–1)/2 for odd span values. For example, if the span is 5, the number of cases with the system-missing value at the beginning and at the end of the series is 2.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] m-estimators

 

i didnt really find anything in the command syntax reference though.

basically i have a time series data and the data has become very volatile

with big jumps and im looking for a way to smoothe this series. but i dont

want to use moving averages or exponential smoothing, instead i want to use

something that will do something with the outliers such that my standard

deviation is not as high. any ideas? thx.

 

 

 

 

 

vlady wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> As I know, robust smoothing can be done in Spss with Time Series Analysis.

> Take a look at Trends option from Spss Command Syntax Reference.

>

> Cheers,

> Vlad

>

> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, jimjohn <[hidden email]> wrote:

>

>> actually what im looking to do is called robust smoothing. is

>> m-estimators

>> robust smoothing? or if not, does anyone know how to do robust smoothing

>> in

>> spss? thx

>>

>>

>>

>> jimjohn wrote:

>> >

>> > can someone plz explain what m-estimators are. can i use these to

>> smooth

>> > my data set? thx.

>> >

>>

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