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jimjohn
im looking for a procedure in spss, other than regression, to analyze the correlation between two variables and to see which variables provide a good predictive model for my dependent variable. can anyone recommend anhy of the other statistical procedures in spss for this? thanks!
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i understand that neural networks would work well but i dont have the newest neural networks addition to spss. is there anything else that you guys recommend? thanks

jimjohn wrote
im looking for a procedure in spss, other than regression, to analyze the correlation between two variables and to see which variables provide a good predictive model for my dependent variable. can anyone recommend anhy of the other statistical procedures in spss for this? thanks!
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Burleson,Joseph A.
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I think it would be wise for you to at least read something of the SPSS
documentation before you ask such questions.

In addition, it might be wise to consult a statistics book or take a
course.

I don't mean to be rude, but questions on this website often sound like
students asking website members to do their homework

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Subject: procedure to analyze correlation / predict

im looking for a procedure in spss, other than regression, to analyze
the
correlation between two variables and to see which variables provide a
good
predictive model for my dependent variable. can anyone recommend anhy of
the
other statistical procedures in spss for this? thanks!
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jimjohn
thanks, i had briefly gone through the spss documentation and each topic is very detailed. i would be very grateful if someone could just provide me the name of a procedure they recommend and after that, i can go ahead and do my own research on how to use that procedure in spss.


Burleson,Joseph A. wrote
I think it would be wise for you to at least read something of the SPSS
documentation before you ask such questions.

In addition, it might be wise to consult a statistics book or take a
course.

I don't mean to be rude, but questions on this website often sound like
students asking website members to do their homework

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Subject: procedure to analyze correlation / predict

im looking for a procedure in spss, other than regression, to analyze
the
correlation between two variables and to see which variables provide a
good
predictive model for my dependent variable. can anyone recommend anhy of
the
other statistical procedures in spss for this? thanks!
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Matthew Reeder
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By and large, I'm in agreement with Joseph (as are others, apparently - this issue has been brought up previously in response to similar questions).

  Is there any way that posts originating from certain domains (e.g., nabble.com) may be banned? This would seem to reduce a sizable chunk of such questions.


  Best,
  Matt

"Burleson,Joseph A." <[hidden email]> wrote:
  I think it would be wise for you to at least read something of the SPSS
documentation before you ask such questions.

In addition, it might be wise to consult a statistics book or take a
course.

I don't mean to be rude, but questions on this website often sound like
students asking website members to do their homework

-----Original Message-----
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jimjohn
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:04 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: procedure to analyze correlation / predict

im looking for a procedure in spss, other than regression, to analyze
the
correlation between two variables and to see which variables provide a
good
predictive model for my dependent variable. can anyone recommend anhy of
the
other statistical procedures in spss for this? thanks!
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SR Millis-3
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Why isn't linear regression satisfactory?


Scott R Millis, PhD, MEd, ABPP (CN,CL,RP), CStat
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--- On Tue, 5/27/08, jimjohn <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: jimjohn <[hidden email]>
> Subject: procedure to analyze correlation / predict
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 3:03 PM
> im looking for a procedure in spss, other than regression,
> to analyze the
> correlation between two variables and to see which
> variables provide a good
> predictive model for my dependent variable. can anyone
> recommend anhy of the
> other statistical procedures in spss for this? thanks!
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Re: procedure to analyze correlation / predict

jimjohn
Hi scott, linear regression works fine for me. I just wanted to see if
there were other predictor models/procedures that would work well too,
so maybe I could compare my results to the regression results. Thx.


Quoting SR Millis <[hidden email]>:

> Why isn't linear regression satisfactory?
>
>
> Scott R Millis, PhD, MEd, ABPP (CN,CL,RP), CStat
> Professor & Director of Research
> Dept of Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation
> Wayne State University School of Medicine
> 261 Mack Blvd
> Detroit, MI 48201
> Email:  [hidden email]
> Tel: 313-993-8085
> Fax: 313-966-7682
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/27/08, jimjohn <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> From: jimjohn <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: procedure to analyze correlation / predict
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 3:03 PM
>> im looking for a procedure in spss, other than regression,
>> to analyze the
>> correlation between two variables and to see which
>> variables provide a good
>> predictive model for my dependent variable. can anyone
>> recommend anhy of the
>> other statistical procedures in spss for this? thanks!
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/procedure-to-analyze-correlation---predict-tp17497715p17497715.html
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>> Nabble.com.
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SR Millis-3
Linear regression can be a good starting point.  After fitting the model, examine the residuals. Is there evidence of heteroscedasticity?  If so, the Box-Cox transformation might be considered.

Another alternative is to plan for non-linearity prior to fitting the model.  First, examine the magnitude of the Spearman r^2 between each predictor variables and the response variable.  Next, use restricted cubic splines in your regression model with the number of knots in each spline determined by the magnitude of the Spearman r^2:

<=.2: no knots
.02-.08: 3 knots
.08-.15: 4 knots
>.15: 5 knots


Scott R Millis, PhD, MEd, ABPP (CN,CL,RP), CStat
Professor & Director of Research
Dept of Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation
Wayne State University School of Medicine
261 Mack Blvd
Detroit, MI 48201
Email:  [hidden email]
Tel: 313-993-8085
Fax: 313-966-7682


--- On Tue, 5/27/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: procedure to analyze correlation / predict
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 9:40 PM
> Hi scott, linear regression works fine for me. I just wanted
> to see if
> there were other predictor models/procedures that would
> work well too,
> so maybe I could compare my results to the regression
> results. Thx.
>
>
> Quoting SR Millis <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Why isn't linear regression satisfactory?

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jimjohn
Thanks!

Quoting SR Millis <[hidden email]>:

> Linear regression can be a good starting point.  After fitting the
> model, examine the residuals. Is there evidence of
> heteroscedasticity?  If so, the Box-Cox transformation might be
> considered.
>
> Another alternative is to plan for non-linearity prior to fitting
> the model.  First, examine the magnitude of the Spearman r^2 between
>  each predictor variables and the response variable.  Next, use
> restricted cubic splines in your regression model with the number of
>  knots in each spline determined by the magnitude of the Spearman r^2:
>
> <=.2: no knots
> .02-.08: 3 knots
> .08-.15: 4 knots
>> .15: 5 knots
>
>
> Scott R Millis, PhD, MEd, ABPP (CN,CL,RP), CStat
> Professor & Director of Research
> Dept of Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation
> Wayne State University School of Medicine
> 261 Mack Blvd
> Detroit, MI 48201
> Email:  [hidden email]
> Tel: 313-993-8085
> Fax: 313-966-7682
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/27/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: procedure to analyze correlation / predict
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 9:40 PM
>> Hi scott, linear regression works fine for me. I just wanted
>> to see if
>> there were other predictor models/procedures that would
>> work well too,
>> so maybe I could compare my results to the regression
>> results. Thx.
>>
>>
>> Quoting SR Millis <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> > Why isn't linear regression satisfactory?
>
>
>
>

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