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Moon Kid
I have three solutions for this problem but none of it fit nearly to my
needs.

There are six variables with the values 0 or 1. There is a question
about why the subject like its job. And there are six possible
checkbox-answers ("because of the coffee", "money", "...") and there
can me more than one checkmarks. Each checkbox is one variable.

Now I just want to know how many have checked (=1) the answers. I need
the SUM, the percent and a descending order.

1.
FREQUENCIES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
  /ORDER=ANALYSIS.

This is the quite ugliest solution. Six variables produce six tables
and I am not able to display them in a way that I can compare them.

2.
DESCRIPTIVES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
   /STATISTICS=SUM
   /SORT=SUM (D).

This is the simplest and nearest do my needs solution.
One table, ordering. But DESCRIPTIVES doesn't offer me percent.
And it displaying the count is a fixed behavior that can not be changed.
But STATISTICS need an argument so I choose SUM because all the other
possibilities makes no sense in my case. So the count and SUM is
displayed - it is the same of course. Looks not nice but would be ok
for me if I had percents there.

3.
CTABLES
  /TABLE v50a [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50b [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50c [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50d [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50e [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50f [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1].

Complex but most powerful solution I think. I tried the ordering with
the CATAGORIES subcommand. But it had no effect on the whole table (I
understand why).

Is there a solution for my needs (one table, sum/count & percent,
ordering)?

Maybe my problem depends on the design of that variables? Would you
choose another variables-structure to represent this type of question
(multiple-choice, multiple answer)?

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Re: simple description of 6 boolean variables

JosephYoungblood
Moon Kid,

Do you have other professional resources from whom you can solicit help?
Perhaps enroll in an introductory statistics course.  As I posted in a
different string, this listserv is a forum for the collaborative exchange of
ideas, problems and suggestions.  And, more importantly, as it seems to me,
it should fortify or augment one's own working knowledge of statistics and
more loosely, research design and methodology.  This forum, and the gracious
support of so many here should not supplant your responsibility to learn.

While I appreciate your dogged determination to find the solution to your
endless list of needs, I do not appreciate what seems to me to be your effort
to circumvent actual learning.

There is a parable that perhaps you've heard, it seems apropos here; "If you
give a man a fish you feed him for a day.  If you teach a man to fish you
feed him for a lifetime.

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Re: simple description of 6 boolean variables

Bruce Weaver
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The mean of a bunch of 1-0 variables will give you the proportion that are equal to 1.  Is that good enough?  If you need to express it as a percentage, you could use OMS to send the output to another dataset, and multiply the mean by 100, and use SUMMARIZE to generate a table (with or without the COUNT included).


DESCRIPTIVES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
   /STATISTICS=SUM MEAN
   /SORT=SUM (D).


Moon Kid wrote
I have three solutions for this problem but none of it fit nearly to my
needs.

There are six variables with the values 0 or 1. There is a question
about why the subject like its job. And there are six possible
checkbox-answers ("because of the coffee", "money", "...") and there
can me more than one checkmarks. Each checkbox is one variable.

Now I just want to know how many have checked (=1) the answers. I need
the SUM, the percent and a descending order.

1.
FREQUENCIES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
  /ORDER=ANALYSIS.

This is the quite ugliest solution. Six variables produce six tables
and I am not able to display them in a way that I can compare them.

2.
DESCRIPTIVES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
   /STATISTICS=SUM
   /SORT=SUM (D).

This is the simplest and nearest do my needs solution.
One table, ordering. But DESCRIPTIVES doesn't offer me percent.
And it displaying the count is a fixed behavior that can not be changed.
But STATISTICS need an argument so I choose SUM because all the other
possibilities makes no sense in my case. So the count and SUM is
displayed - it is the same of course. Looks not nice but would be ok
for me if I had percents there.

3.
CTABLES
  /TABLE v50a [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50b [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50c [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50d [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50e [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
      + v50f [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1].

Complex but most powerful solution I think. I tried the ordering with
the CATAGORIES subcommand. But it had no effect on the whole table (I
understand why).

Is there a solution for my needs (one table, sum/count & percent,
ordering)?

Maybe my problem depends on the design of that variables? Would you
choose another variables-structure to represent this type of question
(multiple-choice, multiple answer)?

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Re: simple description of 6 boolean variables

ViAnn Beadle
Looks like a multiple response set to me for the basic counts and percents. Look at CTABLES or MULT RESPONSE.


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
The mean of a bunch of 1-0 variables will give you the proportion that are
equal to 1.  Is that good enough?  If you need to express it as a
percentage, you could use OMS to send the output to another dataset, and
multiply the mean by 100, and use SUMMARIZE to generate a table (with or
without the COUNT included).


DESCRIPTIVES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
   /STATISTICS=SUM MEAN
   /SORT=SUM (D).



Moon Kid wrote
> I have three solutions for this problem but none of it fit nearly to my
> needs.
>
> There are six variables with the values 0 or 1. There is a question
> about why the subject like its job. And there are six possible
> checkbox-answers ("because of the coffee", "money", "...") and there
> can me more than one checkmarks. Each checkbox is one variable.
>
> Now I just want to know how many have checked (=1) the answers. I need
> the SUM, the percent and a descending order.
>
> 1.
> FREQUENCIES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
>   /ORDER=ANALYSIS.
>
> This is the quite ugliest solution. Six variables produce six tables
> and I am not able to display them in a way that I can compare them.
>
> 2.
> DESCRIPTIVES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
>    /STATISTICS=SUM
>    /SORT=SUM (D).
>
> This is the simplest and nearest do my needs solution.
> One table, ordering. But DESCRIPTIVES doesn't offer me percent.
> And it displaying the count is a fixed behavior that can not be changed.
> But STATISTICS need an argument so I choose SUM because all the other
> possibilities makes no sense in my case. So the count and SUM is
> displayed - it is the same of course. Looks not nice but would be ok
> for me if I had percents there.
>
> 3.
> CTABLES
>   /TABLE v50a [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
>       + v50b [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
>       + v50c [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
>       + v50d [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
>       + v50e [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
>       + v50f [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1].
>
> Complex but most powerful solution I think. I tried the ordering with
> the CATAGORIES subcommand. But it had no effect on the whole table (I
> understand why).
>
> Is there a solution for my needs (one table, sum/count & percent,
> ordering)?
>
> Maybe my problem depends on the design of that variables? Would you
> choose another variables-structure to represent this type of question
> (multiple-choice, multiple answer)?
>
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Re: simple description of 6 boolean variables

Jon K Peck
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Sounds like you just need to compute the sum of the six variables (compute thesum = sum(v50a to v50f)) and then tabulate that.


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From:        Moon Kid <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email],
Date:        04/05/2014 12:32 PM
Subject:        [SPSSX-L] simple description of 6 boolean variables
Sent by:        "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>




I have three solutions for this problem but none of it fit nearly to my
needs.

There are six variables with the values 0 or 1. There is a question
about why the subject like its job. And there are six possible
checkbox-answers ("because of the coffee", "money", "...") and there
can me more than one checkmarks. Each checkbox is one variable.

Now I just want to know how many have checked (=1) the answers. I need
the SUM, the percent and a descending order.

1.
FREQUENCIES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
 /ORDER=ANALYSIS.

This is the quite ugliest solution. Six variables produce six tables
and I am not able to display them in a way that I can compare them.

2.
DESCRIPTIVES VARIABLES=v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f
  /STATISTICS=SUM
  /SORT=SUM (D).

This is the simplest and nearest do my needs solution.
One table, ordering. But DESCRIPTIVES doesn't offer me percent.
And it displaying the count is a fixed behavior that can not be changed.
But STATISTICS need an argument so I choose SUM because all the other
possibilities makes no sense in my case. So the count and SUM is
displayed - it is the same of course. Looks not nice but would be ok
for me if I had percents there.

3.
CTABLES
 /TABLE v50a [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
     + v50b [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
     + v50c [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
     + v50d [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
     + v50e [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1]
     + v50f [C][COUNT 'n' F40.0, TABLEPCT.TOTALN '%' PCT40.1].

Complex but most powerful solution I think. I tried the ordering with
the CATAGORIES subcommand. But it had no effect on the whole table (I
understand why).

Is there a solution for my needs (one table, sum/count & percent,
ordering)?

Maybe my problem depends on the design of that variables? Would you
choose another variables-structure to represent this type of question
(multiple-choice, multiple answer)?

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Re: simple description of 6 boolean variables

David Marso
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Moon Kid,
Please desist from using this list as your personal training/consulting resource.
Consider hiring a trainer.  Your frequent posts regarding minor aspects of the software have become an issue with a number of list members.  Please consult the archives of this list in the future before posting additional questions.  As one of the administrators of the nabble archive I felt it necessary to step forward and state what should have been put forth several days ago.
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Re: simple description of 6 boolean variables

Jon K Peck
David,

How about we make a deal.

We request Moon Kid to reduce his use of the SPSSX-L list, of which you are not an administrator.

We ask you to reduce your level of rudeness on what is supposed to be a professional list.  Just in the last 48 hours,

"
Frank,
Did the zombies eat your brains?
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In my dictionary, Kraut is classified as an offensive word.

I hear many more complaints about your rudeness than I do about Moon Kid.


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Re: simple description of 6 boolean variables

Richard Ristow
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At 02:31 PM 4/5/2014, Moon Kid wrote:

>There are six variables, v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f, with the
>values 0 or 1. There is a question about why the subject like its
>job. And there are six possible checkbox-answers ("because of the
>coffee", "money", "...") and there can me more than one checkmarks.
>Each checkbox is one variable.

Here's an approach: 'unroll', so each response is in a separate
record within subject:

|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
|Output Created               |06-APR-2014 00:06:07       |
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
  [TestData]
Subject v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f

   1001    1    1   1    0    1    0
   1002    0    0   1    1   1    1
   1003    1    0    0   1    0    0
   1004    0    0   0    0   0    0
   1005    1    0    1    1    1   1
   1006    1    0    1    1   0    1
   1007    1    1   0    0   1    0
   1008    1    0    0   1    1   0
   1009    1    0    0   1    0    0
   1010    0    1    0    0   0    1

Number of cases read:  10    Number of cases listed:  10


DATASET COPY     Unroll.
DATASET ACTIVATE Unroll   WINDOW=FRONT.
VARSTOCASES
    /MAKE Marked FROM v50a TO v50f
    /INDEX = Reason "Cause for job satisfaction"(Marked)
    /KEEP  =  Subject
    /NULL  = KEEP.

Variables to Cases
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
|Output Created               |06-APR-2014 00:06:08       |
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
  [Unroll]

Generated Variables
|------|---------------|
|Name  |Label          |
|------|---------------|
|Reason|Cause for job  |
|      |satisfaction   |
|------|---------------|
|Marked|<none>         |
|------|---------------|

Processing Statistics
|-------------|-|
|Variables In |7|
|-------------|-|
|Variables Out|3|
|-------------|-|

Now you can do a simple CROSSTABS -- and if you do, yours will come
out better looking than this, below:

CROSSTABS
   /TABLES=Marked  BY Reason
   /FORMAT=AVALUE TABLES
   /CELLS =COUNT COLUMN
   /COUNT ROUND CELL .


Crosstabs
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
|Output Created               |06-APR-2014 00:06:08       |
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
  [Unroll]

Case Processing Summary [suppressed]

Marked * Reason  Cause for job satisfaction Crosstabulation
|------|-|---------|-----------------------------------------|------|
|      | |         |Reason  Cause for job satisfaction       |Total |
|      | |         |------|------|------|------|------|------|      |
|      | |         |v50a  |v50b  |v50c  |v50d  |v50e  |v50f  |      |
|------|-|---------|------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|Marked|0|Count    |3     |7     |6     |4     |5     |6     |31    |
|      | |% within |30.0% |70.0% |60.0% |40.0% |50.0% |60.0% |51.7% |
|      | |  Reason |      |      |      |      |      |      |      |
|      |-|---------|------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|      |1|Count    |7     |3     |4     |6     |5     |4     |29    |
|      | |% within |70.0% |30.0% |40.0% |60.0% |50.0% |40.0% |48.3% |
|      | |  Reason |      |      |      |      |      |      |      |
|------|-|---------|------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|Total   |Count    |10    |10    |10   |10    |10   |10    |60    |
|        |% within |100.0%|100.0%|100.0%|100.0%|100.0%|100.0%|100.0%|
|      | |  Reason |      |      |      |      |      |      |      |
|--------|---------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|------|


Or, you can create a dataset summarizing the statistics by reason,
and just print it:

DATASET DECLARE  Summary.
AGGREGATE
    /OUTFILE=Summary
    /BREAK  =Reason
    /Total 'Times this reason selected'     = SUM(Marked)
    /Fract 'Fraction of subjects selecting' = MEAN(Marked).

DATASET ACTIVATE Summary  WINDOW=FRONT.
FORMATS Total (F4)
         Fract (F6.3).

SORT CASE BY Fract (D).
LIST.

List
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
|Output Created               |06-APR-2014 00:06:09       |
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
  [Summary]

Reason Total  Fract

v50a       7   .700
v50d       6   .600
v50e       5   .500
v50c       4   .400
v50f       4   .400
v50b       3   .300

Number of cases read:  6    Number of cases listed:  6
=================================
APPENDIX: Test data, and all code
=================================
*  C:\Documents and Settings\Richard\My Documents                     .
*    \Technical\spssx-l\Z-2014\                                       .
*    2014-04-05 Moon Kid-simple description of 6 boolean variables.SPS.

*  In response to posting                               .
*  Date:    Sat, 5 Apr 2014 20:31:37 +0200              .
*  From:    Moon Kid <[hidden email]>               .
*  Subject: simple description of 6 boolean variables   .
*  To:      [hidden email]                    .

*  "There are six variables, v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f, with the .
*  values 0 or 1. There is a question about why the subject like its .
*  job. And there are six possible checkbox-answers                  .
*  ('because of the coffee', 'money', '...') and there can me more   .
*  than one checkmarks. Each checkbox is one variable.               .
*                                                                    .
*  Now I just want to know how many have checked (=1) the answers.   .
*  I need the SUM, the percent and a descending order."              .


*  ................................................................. .
*  .................   Test data               ..................... .
SET RNG = MT       /* 'Mersenne twister' random number generator  */ .
SET MTINDEX = 2398 /*  Providence, RI telephone book              */ .

NEW FILE.
INPUT PROGRAM.
.  NUMERIC Subject (F4).
.  NUMERIC v50a v50b v50c v50d v50e v50f (F2).
.  VECTOR  v50 =v50a TO v50f.
.  VECTOR  #pb(6,F6.4).
.  LOOP #Vidx = 1 TO 6.
.     COMPUTE #pb(#Vidx) = RV.UNIFORM(0.2,0.8).
.  END LOOP.
.  LOOP Subject = 1001 TO 1010.
.     LOOP #Vidx = 1 TO 6.
.        COMPUTE v50(#Vidx) = RV.BERNOULLI(#pb(#Vidx)).
.     END LOOP.
.     END CASE.
.  END LOOP.
END FILE.
END INPUT PROGRAM.
DATASET NAME     TestData WINDOW=FRONT.

.  /**/  LIST  /*-*/.

DATASET COPY     Unroll.
DATASET ACTIVATE Unroll   WINDOW=FRONT.

VARSTOCASES
    /MAKE Marked FROM v50a TO v50f
    /INDEX = Reason "Cause for job satisfaction"(Marked)
    /KEEP  =  Subject
    /NULL  = KEEP.

.  /*--  LIST  /*-*/.

CROSSTABS
   /TABLES=Marked  BY Reason
   /FORMAT=AVALUE TABLES
   /CELLS =COUNT COLUMN
   /COUNT ROUND CELL .

DATASET DECLARE  Summary.

AGGREGATE
    /OUTFILE=Summary
    /BREAK  =Reason
    /Total 'Times this reason selected'     = SUM(Marked)
    /Fract 'Fraction of subjects selecting' = MEAN(Marked).

DATASET ACTIVATE Summary  WINDOW=FRONT.

FORMATS Total (F4)
         Fract (F6.3).

SORT CASE BY Fract (D).

LIST.

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