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Handel, Richard W.

syntax incompatibility?

Hi all,

I am having an odd problem this morning. An SPSS syntax program that I
have used numerous times in the past using SPSS 15.0 is giving me all
sorts of error messages about undefined variables when I try to run it
under SPSS 16.0. Have there been any changes at all in the syntax
commands between SPSS 15.0 and SPSS 16.0? This program has not been
modified at all since I last used it with 15.0 and the funny thing is I
also have a backup copy which gives me the same error messages so I know
I didn't accidentally introduce an error into the program somewhere.

Thanks,

Rick

Richard W. Handel, Ph.D.

Associate Professor

Eastern Virginia Medical School

Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences

Hofheimer Hall, 825 Fairfax Avenue

Norfolk, VA 23507

Phone: (757)-446-5888

Fax: (757)-446-5918

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Art Kendall

Re: syntax incompatibility?

So far I have had not problem with version 16 using syntax written under
version 15.
Are you reading in a system file or describing the input in your syntax?

Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

Handel, Richard W. wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I am having an odd problem this morning. An SPSS syntax program that I
> have used numerous times in the past using SPSS 15.0 is giving me all
> sorts of error messages about undefined variables when I try to run it
> under SPSS 16.0. Have there been any changes at all in the syntax
> commands between SPSS 15.0 and SPSS 16.0? This program has not been
> modified at all since I last used it with 15.0 and the funny thing is I
> also have a backup copy which gives me the same error messages so I know
> I didn't accidentally introduce an error into the program somewhere.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Richard W. Handel, Ph.D.
>
> Associate Professor
>
> Eastern Virginia Medical School
>
> Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences
>
> Hofheimer Hall, 825 Fairfax Avenue
>
> Norfolk, VA 23507
>
> Phone: (757)-446-5888
>
> Fax: (757)-446-5918
>
>
>
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Handel, Richard W.

Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi Art,

I am using an existing .sav file that I created years ago and have analyzed numerous times in the past. The syntax just consists of a bunch of count and compute commands. On Monday morning, I am going to run it on another computer that I think has version 13 or 14 to see what happens. It's quite strange. I've used this same syntax file at least 3 or 4 times since January with no problems at all until I upgraded to SPSS 16. I just recently returned from a conference where I presented analyses using the same exact data set and the same exact syntax file running SPSS 15.0. It worked fine until I upgraded to 16.0

Rick

>So far I have had not problem with version 16 using syntax written under
>version 15.
>Are you reading in a system file or describing the input in your syntax?

>Art Kendall
>Social Research Consultants

Handel, Richard W. wrote:

>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having an odd problem this morning. An SPSS syntax program that I
>> have used numerous times in the past using SPSS 15.0 is giving me all
>> sorts of error messages about undefined variables when I try to run it
>> under SPSS 16.0. Have there been any changes at all in the syntax
>> commands between SPSS 15.0 and SPSS 16.0? This program has not been
>> modified at all since I last used it with 15.0 and the funny thing is I
>> also have a backup copy which gives me the same error messages so I know
>> I didn't accidentally introduce an error into the program somewhere.

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ViAnn Beadle

Re: syntax incompatibility?

It would help if you could provide the list with the exact content of the
errors you are getting and the syntax that is generating them. You also
might try executing your commands one at a time. A simple problem like of
failing to open the data file will generate a cascade of errors.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi Art,

I am using an existing .sav file that I created years ago and have analyzed
numerous times in the past. The syntax just consists of a bunch of count
and compute commands. On Monday morning, I am going to run it on another
computer that I think has version 13 or 14 to see what happens. It's quite
strange. I've used this same syntax file at least 3 or 4 times since
January with no problems at all until I upgraded to SPSS 16. I just
recently returned from a conference where I presented analyses using the
same exact data set and the same exact syntax file running SPSS 15.0. It
worked fine until I upgraded to 16.0

Rick

>So far I have had not problem with version 16 using syntax written under
>version 15.
>Are you reading in a system file or describing the input in your syntax?

>Art Kendall
>Social Research Consultants

Handel, Richard W. wrote:

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Handel, Richard W.

Re: syntax incompatibility?

Yes, I know. I first just wanted to see if there have been any changes at all between versions 15 and 16. Since it doesn't appear that there have been any changes, now I need to do a little more investigating. Thanks.

________________________________

From: ViAnn Beadle [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sat 4/19/2008 4:31 PM
To: Handel, Richard W.; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: syntax incompatibility?

It would help if you could provide the list with the exact content of the
errors you are getting and the syntax that is generating them. You also
might try executing your commands one at a time. A simple problem like of
failing to open the data file will generate a cascade of errors.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi Art,

I am using an existing .sav file that I created years ago and have analyzed
numerous times in the past. The syntax just consists of a bunch of count
and compute commands. On Monday morning, I am going to run it on another
computer that I think has version 13 or 14 to see what happens. It's quite
strange. I've used this same syntax file at least 3 or 4 times since
January with no problems at all until I upgraded to SPSS 16. I just
recently returned from a conference where I presented analyses using the
same exact data set and the same exact syntax file running SPSS 15.0. It
worked fine until I upgraded to 16.0

Rick

>So far I have had not problem with version 16 using syntax written under
>version 15.
>Are you reading in a system file or describing the input in your syntax?

>Art Kendall
>Social Research Consultants

Handel, Richard W. wrote:

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Handel, Richard W.

Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi all,

I found it. A friend ran the same syntax using 14.0, and as I expected,
it worked fine. As we talked about it on the phone, we both noticed a
few missing periods on some of the comment lines. When these were
included, it worked fine running 16.0. We were then concerned that the
missing periods may have led to some erroneous calculations using 14.0,
but the results are identical to those obtained using 16.0.

________________________________

From: ViAnn Beadle [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sat 4/19/2008 4:31 PM
To: Handel, Richard W.; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: syntax incompatibility?

It would help if you could provide the list with the exact content of
the
errors you are getting and the syntax that is generating them. You also
might try executing your commands one at a time. A simple problem like
of
failing to open the data file will generate a cascade of errors.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi Art,

I am using an existing .sav file that I created years ago and have
analyzed
numerous times in the past. The syntax just consists of a bunch of
count
and compute commands. On Monday morning, I am going to run it on
another
computer that I think has version 13 or 14 to see what happens. It's
quite
strange. I've used this same syntax file at least 3 or 4 times since
January with no problems at all until I upgraded to SPSS 16. I just
recently returned from a conference where I presented analyses using the
same exact data set and the same exact syntax file running SPSS 15.0.
It
worked fine until I upgraded to 16.0

Rick

>So far I have had not problem with version 16 using syntax written
under
>version 15.
>Are you reading in a system file or describing the input in your
syntax?

>Art Kendall
>Social Research Consultants

Handel, Richard W. wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having an odd problem this morning. An SPSS syntax program that
I
>> have used numerous times in the past using SPSS 15.0 is giving me all
>> sorts of error messages about undefined variables when I try to run
it
>> under SPSS 16.0. Have there been any changes at all in the syntax
>> commands between SPSS 15.0 and SPSS 16.0? This program has not been
>> modified at all since I last used it with 15.0 and the funny thing is
I
>> also have a backup copy which gives me the same error messages so I
know
>> I didn't accidentally introduce an error into the program somewhere.

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ViAnn Beadle

Re: syntax incompatibility?

The mystery deepens -- you should have gotten the same results from missing
command terminators in 14 as in 16.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi all,

I found it. A friend ran the same syntax using 14.0, and as I expected,
it worked fine. As we talked about it on the phone, we both noticed a
few missing periods on some of the comment lines. When these were
included, it worked fine running 16.0. We were then concerned that the
missing periods may have led to some erroneous calculations using 14.0,
but the results are identical to those obtained using 16.0.

________________________________

From: ViAnn Beadle [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sat 4/19/2008 4:31 PM
To: Handel, Richard W.; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: syntax incompatibility?

It would help if you could provide the list with the exact content of
the
errors you are getting and the syntax that is generating them. You also
might try executing your commands one at a time. A simple problem like
of
failing to open the data file will generate a cascade of errors.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi Art,

I am using an existing .sav file that I created years ago and have
analyzed
numerous times in the past. The syntax just consists of a bunch of
count
and compute commands. On Monday morning, I am going to run it on
another
computer that I think has version 13 or 14 to see what happens. It's
quite
strange. I've used this same syntax file at least 3 or 4 times since
January with no problems at all until I upgraded to SPSS 16. I just
recently returned from a conference where I presented analyses using the
same exact data set and the same exact syntax file running SPSS 15.0.
It
worked fine until I upgraded to 16.0

Rick

>So far I have had not problem with version 16 using syntax written
under
>version 15.
>Are you reading in a system file or describing the input in your
syntax?

>Art Kendall
>Social Research Consultants

Handel, Richard W. wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having an odd problem this morning. An SPSS syntax program that
I
>> have used numerous times in the past using SPSS 15.0 is giving me all
>> sorts of error messages about undefined variables when I try to run
it
>> under SPSS 16.0. Have there been any changes at all in the syntax
>> commands between SPSS 15.0 and SPSS 16.0? This program has not been
>> modified at all since I last used it with 15.0 and the funny thing is
I
>> also have a backup copy which gives me the same error messages so I
know
>> I didn't accidentally introduce an error into the program somewhere.

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Fry, Jonathan B.

Re: syntax incompatibility?

I'd guess the commands in question were terminated by a blank line following. SPSS 16 contained a bug that caused the syntax editor to skip blank lines when running commands.

Jonathan Fry
SPSS Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ViAnn Beadle
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:17 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

The mystery deepens -- you should have gotten the same results from missing
command terminators in 14 as in 16.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi all,

I found it. A friend ran the same syntax using 14.0, and as I expected,
it worked fine. As we talked about it on the phone, we both noticed a
few missing periods on some of the comment lines. When these were
included, it worked fine running 16.0. We were then concerned that the
missing periods may have led to some erroneous calculations using 14.0,
but the results are identical to those obtained using 16.0.

________________________________

From: ViAnn Beadle [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sat 4/19/2008 4:31 PM
To: Handel, Richard W.; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: syntax incompatibility?

It would help if you could provide the list with the exact content of
the
errors you are getting and the syntax that is generating them. You also
might try executing your commands one at a time. A simple problem like
of
failing to open the data file will generate a cascade of errors.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi Art,

I am using an existing .sav file that I created years ago and have
analyzed
numerous times in the past. The syntax just consists of a bunch of
count
and compute commands. On Monday morning, I am going to run it on
another
computer that I think has version 13 or 14 to see what happens. It's
quite
strange. I've used this same syntax file at least 3 or 4 times since
January with no problems at all until I upgraded to SPSS 16. I just
recently returned from a conference where I presented analyses using the
same exact data set and the same exact syntax file running SPSS 15.0.
It
worked fine until I upgraded to 16.0

Rick

>So far I have had not problem with version 16 using syntax written
under
>version 15.
>Are you reading in a system file or describing the input in your
syntax?

>Art Kendall
>Social Research Consultants

Handel, Richard W. wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having an odd problem this morning. An SPSS syntax program that
I
>> have used numerous times in the past using SPSS 15.0 is giving me all
>> sorts of error messages about undefined variables when I try to run
it
>> under SPSS 16.0. Have there been any changes at all in the syntax
>> commands between SPSS 15.0 and SPSS 16.0? This program has not been
>> modified at all since I last used it with 15.0 and the funny thing is
I
>> also have a backup copy which gives me the same error messages so I
know
>> I didn't accidentally introduce an error into the program somewhere.

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Handel, Richard W.

Re: syntax incompatibility?

I just installed the 16.0.2 patch and the syntax that was giving me
problems now works fine.

Richard W. Handel, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Eastern Virginia Medical School
Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences
Hofheimer Hall, 825 Fairfax Avenue
Norfolk, VA 23507
Phone: (757)-446-5888
Fax: (757)-446-5918

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Fry, Jonathan B.
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

I'd guess the commands in question were terminated by a blank line
following. SPSS 16 contained a bug that caused the syntax editor to
skip blank lines when running commands.

Jonathan Fry
SPSS Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
ViAnn Beadle
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:17 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

The mystery deepens -- you should have gotten the same results from
missing
command terminators in 14 as in 16.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi all,

I found it. A friend ran the same syntax using 14.0, and as I expected,
it worked fine. As we talked about it on the phone, we both noticed a
few missing periods on some of the comment lines. When these were
included, it worked fine running 16.0. We were then concerned that the
missing periods may have led to some erroneous calculations using 14.0,
but the results are identical to those obtained using 16.0.

________________________________

From: ViAnn Beadle [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sat 4/19/2008 4:31 PM
To: Handel, Richard W.; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: syntax incompatibility?

It would help if you could provide the list with the exact content of
the
errors you are getting and the syntax that is generating them. You also
might try executing your commands one at a time. A simple problem like
of
failing to open the data file will generate a cascade of errors.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Handel, Richard W.
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: syntax incompatibility?

Hi Art,

I am using an existing .sav file that I created years ago and have
analyzed
numerous times in the past. The syntax just consists of a bunch of
count
and compute commands. On Monday morning, I am going to run it on
another
computer that I think has version 13 or 14 to see what happens. It's
quite
strange. I've used this same syntax file at least 3 or 4 times since
January with no problems at all until I upgraded to SPSS 16. I just
recently returned from a conference where I presented analyses using the
same exact data set and the same exact syntax file running SPSS 15.0.
It
worked fine until I upgraded to 16.0

Rick

>So far I have had not problem with version 16 using syntax written
under
>version 15.
>Are you reading in a system file or describing the input in your
syntax?

>Art Kendall
>Social Research Consultants

Handel, Richard W. wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having an odd problem this morning. An SPSS syntax program that
I
>> have used numerous times in the past using SPSS 15.0 is giving me all
>> sorts of error messages about undefined variables when I try to run
it
>> under SPSS 16.0. Have there been any changes at all in the syntax
>> commands between SPSS 15.0 and SPSS 16.0? This program has not been
>> modified at all since I last used it with 15.0 and the funny thing is
I
>> also have a backup copy which gives me the same error messages so I
know
>> I didn't accidentally introduce an error into the program somewhere.

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