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Re: Recurrent Event Counting Process

Posted by Asrul Akmal Shafie on Nov 02, 2006; 6:39pm
URL: http://spssx-discussion.165.s1.nabble.com/Recurrent-Event-Counting-Process-tp1071824p1071825.html

Thank you all for the quick response. The resounding answer seems to be
that SPSS is unable to handle recurrent event counting process. The
problem with me is that this is the only statistical software subscribed
by my department.

Restructuring the data seems a bit more advance to me but I will try to
locate the paper now.

R seems to be an interesting option. But Deborah, what do you mean by R
not able to write to disk? Does it mean not able to save the data or
output into hard disc?

Many thanks for your kind advice.

Asrul A Shafie
Student
Centre for Socioeconomic Research



On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:26:37 -0600, Butler, Deborah {FLNA}
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> It also accepts Matlab code.  You could start here in learning it:
>http://www.r-project.org/  Just get in and start using it!
>
>Just a word of caution, R uses memory only and does not write to disk,
>therefore, it is NOT helpful for those of us with large datasets and
>large data manipulations.  This is one of the reasons why a professional
>package such as SPSS is worth the money!  I like the versatility of it,
>however, and plan to use it concurrently with SPSS for special projects.
>I also like that it is free. ;)
>
>
>Debbie Butler
>SCP Modeling Analyst
>Frito Lay Operations
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>Lisa Stickney
>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:58 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: Recurrent Event Counting Process
>
>Hi Edward,
>
>   A few years ago I was using both S+ & R (the open source version of
>S+),
>and I found "The Basics of S-Plus" by Krause & Olson to be useful for a
>beginner. HTH.
>
>    Best,
>        Lisa
>
>Lisa T. Stickney
>Ph.D. Candidate
>The Fox School of Business
>     and Management
>Temple University
>[hidden email]
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Edward Boadi" <[hidden email]>
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Recurrent Event Counting Process
>
>
>> What book will you recommend for somebody who want to learn R ?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf
>Of
>> Butler, Deborah {FLNA}
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:30 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Recurrent Event Counting Process
>>
>>
>> If SPSS cannot handle it, I would suggest R.  It's a freeware package
>-
>> very powerful.  You'll need to download a specific package, but I've
>no
>> doubt it could handle it.
>>
>> http://www.r-project.org/
>>
>>
>> Debbie Butler
>> SCP Modeling Analyst
>> Frito Lay Operations
>> 972.334.3934
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
>Of
>> Gene Maguin
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:43 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Recurrent Event Counting Process
>>
>> Asrul,
>>
>> The simple answer No. You can't run this kind of analysis directly.
>That
>> said, I wonder if spss can't be made to run it. My idea is based on
>the
>> fact
>> that a discrete time survival analysis can be restructured to be
>solved
>> using ordinary logistic regression. At least one reference for this is
>> Paul
>> Allison. It seems to me that a competing risks model might be
>> restructured
>> to be solvable using either ordinal logistic regression or multinomial
>> logistic regression. However, I have never seen anybody do this nor
>have
>> I
>> read about doing this. I'm not a statistician so there's lots of
>things
>> I
>> don't know about this. If you haven't gotten a reply perhaps somebody
>> who
>> has done this kind of model would reply to the list. I think that
>Hector
>> had
>> a problem that involved this kind of analysis a while back.
>>
>> All that said, you can do this sort of problem using other software,
>> notably, Mplus, Mlwin, perhaps, HLM or SAS. You might want to look at
>> Judith
>> Singer's book, Applied longitudinal data analysis to see if she has
>> anything
>> about this sort of analysis in there. There may also be free software
>> that
>> can do this analysis. I'd investigate Hedeker's programs.
>>
>> Good luck, Gene Maguin
>>