SPSSX Discussion - Re: P-value help---I wish and hope to put an end to this discussion

Re: P-value help---I wish and hope to put an end to this discussion

Posted by Ismail Noor on Mar 25, 2011; 8:59am
URL: http://spssx-discussion.165.s1.nabble.com/P-value-help-urgent-need-for-help-tp4259619p4263727.html

Dear Bruce,

For the past day or so I have been receiving lots of e-mail messages from list members, supportive in most, but some had shocking racist comments. Yet, many of the supportive messages were private and I was asked not to post them to the list, and I will not do that. I do want to put this discussion to rest and stop the exchange of messages. There is no need or use of finger pointing. Whoever wants an apology I do not mind offering one to her/him.

I certainly offer you my sincere apology for all of the misunderstanding. I do wish you and all the list members, including the racist ones, a very nice and safe weekend.

with this message, I wish and hope to bring this unwonted discussion to its end. Thank you all.....................

Ismail K. Noor, Ph.D.,
[hidden email]
Skype: ismail.noor2

(966) 1-2520088 Ext. 40109 (Office-Riyadh)

(966) 50-717-2356 (cell-Riyadh)
(966) 1-237-9373 (home-Riyadh)
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From: Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 11:00:22 AM
Subject: Re: P-value help---urgent need for help

For the record, Ismail, I do not see anything in my posts in these two
threads that requires an apology. In my initial response, I offered the
solution posted by Dave Nichols. In my response to Marta's message, I said
I found it strange that the Dave Nichols solution was not sufficient, and
not acknowledged in any way. No slight (racist or otherwise) is evident in
either message, as far as I can see. But you are free to disagree, of
course. ;-)

To avoid any further risk of becoming a slave to my words, I will now bow
out of this discussion.

Cheers,
Bruce

Ismail Noor wrote:

>
> Thank youÂ Bruce.Â I would acknowledge your help and effort, but believe me
> I did
> not see it. Other wise I would notÂ postÂ my message again. I take your
> message as
> an apology and your apologyÂ is accepted. I have no hard feeling toward you
> or
> toward any of those who showedÂ their racist attitudes.
>
> Thank you again and have a nice weekend......................
> Â
> Ismail K. Noor, Ph.D.,
> [hidden email]
> Skype: ismail.noor2
> (966) 1-2520088 Ext. 40109 (Office-Riyadh)
> (966) 50-717-2356 (cell-Riyadh)
> (966) 1-237-9373 (home-Riyadh)
> (313) 240-5259 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting (313) 240-5259 end_of_the_skype_highlighting (home-Dearborn-USA)
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:21:01 PM
> Subject: Re: P-value help---urgent need for help
>
> Hi Marta.Â You are quite right about arson being contagious, and I really
> like those words from the Spanish philosopher.Â However, I still find it
> very strange that the example from Dave Nichols (link below), which I gave
> in my response to the first request, did not suffice--and also strange
> that
> it was not acknowledged in any way.
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.stat.spss/browse_frm/thread/e8abd285cc0e4cd1/3fa8e889cde9c118?lnk=gst&q=chi-square+weight+#3fa8e889cde9c118

>
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
>
>
>
> Marta GarcÃa-Granero-2 wrote:
> >
> > Hi everybody:
> >
> > I think that some people is being a bit oversuspicious. I I went to
> the

> > web page (http://www.dennonoor.com) and clicked on a link that

> explained
> > that Mr. Ismail Noor had left the company and was working overseas
> with
> > an NGO on a project to prevent child abuse (that explained the data
> he
> > sent to this list). I wrote him off line and gave him a solution
> > (downloading the freeware application WinPepi, that works with
> tabulated
> > data).
> >
> > As a Spanish philosopher said: &quot;we are the owners of our
> silences and
> > the slaves of our words&quot;. Think twice before playing
> arsonist on the
> > list, please. It is a contagious mood.
> >
> > Anyway, maybe Mr Noor could have explained his situation better,
> > something like: &quot;I work for an NGO to prevent child abuse
> and I have
> > been asked to analyze this table, I don't have the original data
> > anymore...&quot;.
> >
> > Mr Noor's problem has been solved to his satisfaction, as I can infer
> > from his thanking message to me.
> >
> > Best regards on this cloudy spring morning (at least on Spain).
> >
> > Marta GG
> >
> >
> > El 24/03/2011 9:12, Helmut Vorkauf escribiÃ³:
> > &gt; I saw your 1st posting and came to the conclusion that a not
> so funny
> > &gt; game was being played.
> > &gt; Now you repeat the game. I ask you to end the game and give
> us the
> > &gt; solution.
> > &gt; There are too many riddles:
> > &gt; you work for a commercial survey service, so your question
> for the
> > &gt; most simple cross-tabulation strikes me as unbelievable.
> > &gt; You ask for a p, but a p for what? A p of a chi-sq, a p of
> an
> > &gt; uncertainty coefficient, or what?
> > &gt; Some of your customers might ask you such questions, and you
> are paid
> > &gt; to answer them.
> > &gt; But please stop molesting this list, where people try to
> help in real
> > &gt; problem situations.
> > &gt; Helmut Vorkauf
> > &gt;
> > &gt; On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Ismail Noor
> &lt;[hidden email]
> > &gt; &lt;mailto:[hidden email]&gt;&gt; wrote:
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â Dear all on the list,
> > &gt;Â Â This message is being posted for the second time,
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â I have the following table and I need to calculate the
> p-value
> > for
> > &gt;Â Â it. I appreciate any help...............
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Table 2. *Participantsâ€™ awareness of child maltreatment
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Level of Awareness*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Male professionals*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **n(%)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Female professionals*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â n(%)**
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Total*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â n(%)**
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Low*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 696
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (37.1)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 549
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (28.9)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 1245
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (33.0)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Intermediate*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 607
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (32.3)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 573
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (30.2)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 1,180
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (31.2)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *High*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 516
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (27.5)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 697
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (36.7)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 1,213
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (32.1)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Missing*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 59
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (3.1)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 80
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (4.2)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 139
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (3.7)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â **
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â *Total*
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 1,878
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 1,899
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â 3,777
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (100)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â Ismail K. Noor, Ph.D.,
> > &gt;Â Â [hidden email]
> &lt;mailto:[hidden email]&gt;
> > &gt;Â Â http://www.dennonoor.com
> > &gt;Â Â Skype: ismail.noor2
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (966) 1-2520088 Ext. 40109 (Office-Riyadh)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Â Â (966) 50-717-2356 (cell-Riyadh)
> > &gt;Â Â (966) 1-237-9373 (home-Riyadh)
> > &gt;Â Â (313) 240-5259 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting (313) 240-5259 end_of_the_skype_highlighting &lt;tel:%28313%29%20240-5259&gt;
> > (home-Dearborn-USA)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> >
>
>
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