version 16 problem with page setup

[Art Kendall]

I am running SPSS 16.0.2 under Vista64 Ultimate.

When I am on an output page if I click <file> <page setup>
nothing happens.
This happens both on an output window that has info on it and on a new
output window.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Did I miss any posts about this?


Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

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[ViAnn Beadle]

I'm just using Vista 32 Home Premium and I see it.
-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Art
Kendall
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:46 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: version 16 problem with page setup

I am running SPSS 16.0.2 under Vista64 Ultimate.

When I am on an output page if I click <file> <page setup>
nothing happens.
This happens both on an output window that has info on it and on a new
output window.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Did I miss any posts about this?


Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

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[Art Kendall]

You see the setup page or you see the problem?

Art

ViAnn Beadle wrote:

> I'm just using Vista 32 Home Premium and I see it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Art
> Kendall
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:46 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: version 16 problem with page setup
>
> I am running SPSS 16.0.2 under Vista64 Ultimate.
>
> When I am on an output page if I click <file> <page setup>
> nothing happens.
> This happens both on an output window that has info on it and on a new
> output window.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Did I miss any posts about this?
>
>
> Art Kendall
> Social Research Consultants
>
> =====================
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>
>
>

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[ViAnn Beadle]

The setup page

-----Original Message-----
From: Art Kendall [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:19 PM
To: ViAnn Beadle
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: version 16 problem with page setup

You see the setup page or you see the problem?

Art

ViAnn Beadle wrote:
> I'm just using Vista 32 Home Premium and I see it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Art

> Kendall
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:46 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: version 16 problem with page setup
>
> I am running SPSS 16.0.2 under Vista64 Ultimate.
>
> When I am on an output page if I click <file> <page setup>
> nothing happens.
> This happens both on an output window that has info on it and on a new
> output window.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Did I miss any posts about this?
>
>
> Art Kendall
> Social Research Consultants
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
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> command. To leave the list, send the command
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> INFO REFCARD
>
>
>
>

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[Kornbrot, Diana]

Its good that SPSS is taking advantage of INTEL MACs to keep versions almost
up to date with PC
Version 16 has some great procedures,
BUT the interface is appalling
1. can¹t open earlier .spo files, so need to re-run procedures
2. open file INSISTS on column view so that it is impossible to search by
name. this replaces perfectly sensible list view in earlier version.
Programming effor to deteriorate product
3. delete key doesn¹t work, need ctrlC ­ not even the usual appleC
4. others have noted many similar poor hci features

Why don¹t spss do some user testing for MACs?
These things may seem merely Œinconveniences¹ as indeed they are, BUT they
consume an awful lot of my valuable time. A collaboration with colleague
just took me 35 minutes instead of 5, i.e. SEVEN times as long!

Finally, for PC as well as MAC, There is STILL no dynamic formatting of
formulae. Change 1 number in a file and you have to redo ALL the dependent
data transformations. A problem solved by JMP, statview etc some decades
ago.
Please, please SPSS fix that one ­ it really would help

Best

Diana


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[Art Kendall]

Sorry for having bothered everybody. I ignored one of the basic concepts
of  problem solving when using a Microsoft product.  "Reboot and check
for updates."

Before I contacted support, I did what I do before contacting support
for any product.   I checked whether there were any updates to the OS.
[I had checked for SPSS updates yesterday.]  Sure enough there was a
whole Service Pack.
The problem has cleared up.

Thanks for your replies.

Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants


ViAnn Beadle wrote:

> The setup page
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art Kendall [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:19 PM
> To: ViAnn Beadle
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: version 16 problem with page setup
>
> You see the setup page or you see the problem?
>
> Art
>
> ViAnn Beadle wrote:
>
>> I'm just using Vista 32 Home Premium and I see it.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>>
> Art
>
>> Kendall
>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:46 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: version 16 problem with page setup
>>
>> I am running SPSS 16.0.2 under Vista64 Ultimate.
>>
>> When I am on an output page if I click <file> <page setup>
>> nothing happens.
>> This happens both on an output window that has info on it and on a new
>> output window.
>>
>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>> Did I miss any posts about this?
>>
>>
>> Art Kendall
>> Social Research Consultants
>>
>> =====================
>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
>> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
>> command. To leave the list, send the command
>> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
>> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
>> INFO REFCARD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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