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fariha
Hello,

I need to find the agreement between previous studies on the elements of sustainability practice in campus.

for example: I have 7 studies done by difference universities. Each of the 7 studies have difference elements but at the same time, some of the elements in these 7 studies are the same. Thus, I've list out all the elements and need to narrow them down through the elements AGREED THE MOST between the 7 studies.

Can I applied Cohen's Kappa in this example? or is there any better method can be use?

Thank you in advance.

Regard,
Laila
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Re: Agreement between studies

John F Hall
Fariha

We need to know much more detail.

In the 7 studies, do the common elements have the same variable names?  If
yes, you can probably use MATCH FILES <file list> /KEEP <varlist>

. . where the varlist includes case ID as well.

If no, you can always use RENAME VARIABLES to make sure all the common
variables have the the same name(s).

In either case File >> Save As

. . and use a different file name.

I can give further advice and assistance [off-list] if you send me (in
complete confidence according to professional Codes of Conduct) the *.sav
files and any relevant documentation (eg questionnaire or output from:
Display Labels for each of the *.sav files).

John F Hall (Mr)
[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email:   [hidden email]  
Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com
SPSS start page:  www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop





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fariha
Sent: 28 September 2015 06:03
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Subject: Agreement between studies

Hello,

I need to find the agreement between previous studies on the elements of
sustainability practice in campus.

for example: I have 7 studies done by difference universities. Each of the 7
studies have difference elements but at the same time, some of the elements
in these 7 studies are the same. Thus, I've list out all the elements and
need to narrow them down through the elements AGREED THE MOST between the 7
studies.

Can I applied Cohen's Kappa in this example? or is there any better method
can be use?

Thank you in advance.

Regard,
Laila




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FW: Agreement between studies

John F Hall

Fariha has a small data matrix,derived from content analysis, covering 7 studies and presence or absence of 11 elements. 

 

Elements as cases, studies as variables:

 

1       1       1       1       1       1       1

1       1       1       1       1       1       0

1       1       1       0       1       1       1

0       0       1       0       1       1       1

0       0       1       1       1       1       1

0       0       1       0       0       1       0

0       0       1       0       0       0       0

0       0       0       1       1       1       1

0       0       1       1       0       1       1

0       0       1       0       0       0       0

0       0       0       0       0       1       0

 

Studies as variables, elements as cases:

 

 

     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0

     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1      1      0

     1      1      0      0      1      0      0      1      1      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      0      0      1      0      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1      1      0      1

     1      0      1      1      1      0      0      1      1      0      0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is not really a question for SPSS, but perhaps someone can suggest how these data can be analysed, and whether Cohen’s Kappa is appropriate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John F Hall (Mr)

[Retired academic survey researcher]

 

Email:   [hidden email] 

Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com

SPSS start page:  www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: LAILATUFARIHA MAMAT [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 29 September 2015 08:54
To: John F Hall <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Agreement between studies

 

OK. Thank you Sir for your respond

 

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:53 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

OK.  I see what you have done, but it needs thinking about.  I’m not a statistician, so I suggest I write a description of your data and put it to list members.  Basically you have 7 cases and 11 variables, each of which is binary.  Alternatively you have 11 cases and 7 variables.  Either way, the data set is very small and may not be amenable to statistical treatment.

 

From: LAILATUFARIHA MAMAT [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 29 September 2015 03:04
To: John F Hall <
[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Agreement between studies

 

Sir,

 

For your information, I'm not using questionnaire. I'm applying the content analysis technique and extract out elements used in those 7 studies.

Attached is the file with table of extracted elements. 

I need to conclude the elements. Can I use agreement such as Cohen's Kappa? Or is there any other suitable method?

 

Regard,

Fariha

 

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

Fariha

We need to know much more detail.

In the 7 studies, do the common elements have the same variable names?  If
yes, you can probably use MATCH FILES <file list> /KEEP <varlist>

. . where the varlist includes case ID as well.

If no, you can always use RENAME VARIABLES to make sure all the common
variables have the the same name(s).

In either case File >> Save As

. . and use a different file name.

I can give further advice and assistance [off-list] if you send me (in
complete confidence according to professional Codes of Conduct) the *.sav
files and any relevant documentation (eg questionnaire or output from:
Display Labels for each of the *.sav files).

John F Hall (Mr)
[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email:   [hidden email]
Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com
SPSS start page:  www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop





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fariha
Sent: 28 September 2015 06:03
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Subject: Agreement between studies

Hello,

I need to find the agreement between previous studies on the elements of
sustainability practice in campus.

for example: I have 7 studies done by difference universities. Each of the 7
studies have difference elements but at the same time, some of the elements
in these 7 studies are the same. Thus, I've list out all the elements and
need to narrow them down through the elements AGREED THE MOST between the 7
studies.

Can I applied Cohen's Kappa in this example? or is there any better method
can be use?

Thank you in advance.

Regard,
Laila




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Re: Agreement between studies

Maguin, Eugene

Maybe something more “significance test-y” is needed/wanted but why not begin by tabulating percent of studies with the characteristic and the co-occurrence of pairs of characteristics.

Gene Maguin

 

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:30 AM
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Subject: FW: Agreement between studies

 

Fariha has a small data matrix,derived from content analysis, covering 7 studies and presence or absence of 11 elements. 

 

Elements as cases, studies as variables:

 

1      1      1      1      1      1      1

1      1      1      1      1      1      0

1      1      1      0      1      1      1

0      0      1      0      1      1      1

0      0      1      1      1      1      1

0      0      1      0      0      1      0

0      0      1      0      0      0      0

0      0      0      1      1      1      1

0      0      1      1      0      1      1

0      0      1      0      0      0      0

0      0      0      0      0      1      0

 

Studies as variables, elements as cases:

 

 

     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0

     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1      1      0

     1      1      0      0      1      0      0      1      1      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      0      0      1      0      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1      1      0      1

     1      0      1      1      1      0      0      1      1      0      0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is not really a question for SPSS, but perhaps someone can suggest how these data can be analysed, and whether Cohen’s Kappa is appropriate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John F Hall (Mr)

[Retired academic survey researcher]

 

Email:   [hidden email] 

Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com

SPSS start page:  www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: LAILATUFARIHA MAMAT [[hidden email]]
Sent: 29 September 2015 08:54
To: John F Hall <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Agreement between studies

 

OK. Thank you Sir for your respond

 

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:53 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

OK.  I see what you have done, but it needs thinking about.  I’m not a statistician, so I suggest I write a description of your data and put it to list members.  Basically you have 7 cases and 11 variables, each of which is binary.  Alternatively you have 11 cases and 7 variables.  Either way, the data set is very small and may not be amenable to statistical treatment.

 

From: LAILATUFARIHA MAMAT [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 29 September 2015 03:04
To: John F Hall <
[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Agreement between studies

 

Sir,

 

For your information, I'm not using questionnaire. I'm applying the content analysis technique and extract out elements used in those 7 studies.

Attached is the file with table of extracted elements. 

I need to conclude the elements. Can I use agreement such as Cohen's Kappa? Or is there any other suitable method?

 

Regard,

Fariha

 

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

Fariha

We need to know much more detail.

In the 7 studies, do the common elements have the same variable names?  If
yes, you can probably use MATCH FILES <file list> /KEEP <varlist>

. . where the varlist includes case ID as well.

If no, you can always use RENAME VARIABLES to make sure all the common
variables have the the same name(s).

In either case File >> Save As

. . and use a different file name.

I can give further advice and assistance [off-list] if you send me (in
complete confidence according to professional Codes of Conduct) the *.sav
files and any relevant documentation (eg questionnaire or output from:
Display Labels for each of the *.sav files).

John F Hall (Mr)
[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email:   [hidden email]
Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com
SPSS start page:  www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop





-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
fariha
Sent: 28 September 2015 06:03
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Agreement between studies

Hello,

I need to find the agreement between previous studies on the elements of
sustainability practice in campus.

for example: I have 7 studies done by difference universities. Each of the 7
studies have difference elements but at the same time, some of the elements
in these 7 studies are the same. Thus, I've list out all the elements and
need to narrow them down through the elements AGREED THE MOST between the 7
studies.

Can I applied Cohen's Kappa in this example? or is there any better method
can be use?

Thank you in advance.

Regard,
Laila




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Re: FW: Agreement between studies

Art Kendall
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How subjective are the judgements in the measurement process?

Are the categories so clear that there is no need to check inter-judge consistency/reliability?
Art Kendall
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fariha
The judgement are dichotomous, either presence/absence. 
The categories are quite clear to see through the previous studies.
Since I'm not doing a questionnaire, just my own study through each of them, I need a test to strengthen my data.
I also need to narrowing the no. of elements selected. Thus, I'm thinking of using some test that have cut-off point. 

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Art Kendall [via SPSSX Discussion] <[hidden email]> wrote:
How subjective are the judgements in the measurement process?

Are the categories so clear that there is no need to check inter-judge consistency/reliability?
Art Kendall
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Re: Agreement between studies

fariha
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I have tabulated the percent of studies with the characteristic and the co-occurrence of pairs of characteristics. Somehow, I got feedback that the analysis is not strong enough when I present them. 

I also need to narrow down the elements. Thus, I really need some test that have cut-off points.  

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Maguin, Eugene [via SPSSX Discussion] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe something more “significance test-y” is needed/wanted but why not begin by tabulating percent of studies with the characteristic and the co-occurrence of pairs of characteristics.

Gene Maguin

 

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:30 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: FW: Agreement between studies

 

Fariha has a small data matrix,derived from content analysis, covering 7 studies and presence or absence of 11 elements. 

 

Elements as cases, studies as variables:

 

1      1      1      1      1      1      1

1      1      1      1      1      1      0

1      1      1      0      1      1      1

0      0      1      0      1      1      1

0      0      1      1      1      1      1

0      0      1      0      0      1      0

0      0      1      0      0      0      0

0      0      0      1      1      1      1

0      0      1      1      0      1      1

0      0      1      0      0      0      0

0      0      0      0      0      1      0

 

Studies as variables, elements as cases:

 

 

     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0

     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1      1      0

     1      1      0      0      1      0      0      1      1      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      0      0      1      0      0      0

     1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1      1      0      1

     1      0      1      1      1      0      0      1      1      0      0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is not really a question for SPSS, but perhaps someone can suggest how these data can be analysed, and whether Cohen’s Kappa is appropriate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John F Hall (Mr)

[Retired academic survey researcher]

 

Email:   [hidden email] 

Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com

SPSS start page:  www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: LAILATUFARIHA MAMAT [[hidden email]]
Sent: 29 September 2015 08:54
To: John F Hall <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Agreement between studies

 

OK. Thank you Sir for your respond

 

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:53 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

OK.  I see what you have done, but it needs thinking about.  I’m not a statistician, so I suggest I write a description of your data and put it to list members.  Basically you have 7 cases and 11 variables, each of which is binary.  Alternatively you have 11 cases and 7 variables.  Either way, the data set is very small and may not be amenable to statistical treatment.

 

From: LAILATUFARIHA MAMAT [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 29 September 2015 03:04
To: John F Hall <
[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Agreement between studies

 

Sir,

 

For your information, I'm not using questionnaire. I'm applying the content analysis technique and extract out elements used in those 7 studies.

Attached is the file with table of extracted elements. 

I need to conclude the elements. Can I use agreement such as Cohen's Kappa? Or is there any other suitable method?

 

Regard,

Fariha

 

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

Fariha

We need to know much more detail.

In the 7 studies, do the common elements have the same variable names?  If
yes, you can probably use MATCH FILES <file list> /KEEP <varlist>

. . where the varlist includes case ID as well.

If no, you can always use RENAME VARIABLES to make sure all the common
variables have the the same name(s).

In either case File >> Save As

. . and use a different file name.

I can give further advice and assistance [off-list] if you send me (in
complete confidence according to professional Codes of Conduct) the *.sav
files and any relevant documentation (eg questionnaire or output from:
Display Labels for each of the *.sav files).

John F Hall (Mr)
[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email:   [hidden email]
Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com
SPSS start page:  www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop





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From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
fariha
Sent: 28 September 2015 06:03

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Agreement between studies

Hello,

I need to find the agreement between previous studies on the elements of
sustainability practice in campus.

for example: I have 7 studies done by difference universities. Each of the 7
studies have difference elements but at the same time, some of the elements
in these 7 studies are the same. Thus, I've list out all the elements and
need to narrow them down through the elements AGREED THE MOST between the 7
studies.

Can I applied Cohen's Kappa in this example? or is there any better method
can be use?

Thank you in advance.

Regard,
Laila




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Re: Agreement between studies

Rich Ulrich
I think you want to rearrange your data into decreasing rows and
columns in order to look at it.  Then reduce it, as below, and
show the reduced table with the commentaries.

Studies as cases: rows and columns rearranged.
 
===========11 elements======================
     1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1      1      0     1    =9
     1      1      1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1     0    =9
     1      1      1      1      1      0      1      0      0      0     0    =6
     1      0      1      1      1      1      1      0      0      0     0    =6
     1      1      0      1      0      1      1      0      0      0     0    =5
     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0     0    =2
     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0     0    =2
=======================================
      7      6      6      5      4      4      4      2      1      1      1

The first piece of commentary is that there are 4 elements
that exist in only one or two studies.  Dismiss them.
Then, there are two studies that have only two elements.
Mention them and the two elements, and dismiss them.
 
Final commentary:  That leaves 5 studies with no element
missing more than once.
 
===========7 elements======== (further rearranged)
     1      1      1      1      1      1      1     =7
     1      1      1      1      1      1      0     =6
     1      1      1      1      1      0      1     =6
     1      1      1      0      1      1      1     =6
     1      1      0      1      0      1      1     =5
 
I think that the word for testing on this design, with this N,
is "inappropriate" or "embarrassing."

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:28:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: Agreement between studies
To: [hidden email]

I have tabulated the percent of studies with the characteristic and the co-occurrence of pairs of characteristics. Somehow, I got feedback that the analysis is not strong enough when I present them. 

I also need to narrow down the elements. Thus, I really need some test that have cut-off points.  

[snip]



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David Marso
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"I think that the word for testing on this design, with this N,
is "inappropriate" or "embarrassing.""

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Rich Ulrich wrote
I think you want to rearrange your data into decreasing rows and
columns in order to look at it.  Then reduce it, as below, and
show the reduced table with the commentaries.

Studies as cases: rows and columns rearranged.
 
===========11 elements======================
     1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1      1      0     1    =9
     1      1      1      1      1      1      1      1      0      1     0    =9
     1      1      1      1      1      0      1      0      0      0     0    =6
     1      0      1      1      1      1      1      0      0      0     0    =6
     1      1      0      1      0      1      1      0      0      0     0    =5
     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0     0    =2
     1      1      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0     0    =2
=======================================
      7      6      6      5      4      4      4      2      1      1      1

The first piece of commentary is that there are 4 elements
that exist in only one or two studies.  Dismiss them.
Then, there are two studies that have only two elements.
Mention them and the two elements, and dismiss them.
 
Final commentary:  That leaves 5 studies with no element
missing more than once.
 
===========7 elements======== (further rearranged)
     1      1      1      1      1      1      1     =7
     1      1      1      1      1      1      0     =6
     1      1      1      1      1      0      1     =6
     1      1      1      0      1      1      1     =6
     1      1      0      1      0      1      1     =5
 
I think that the word for testing on this design, with this N,
is "inappropriate" or "embarrassing."

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Rich Ulrich

Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:28:53 -0700
From: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Agreement between studies
To: [hidden email]

I have tabulated the percent of studies with the characteristic and the co-occurrence of pairs of characteristics. Somehow, I got feedback that the analysis is not strong enough when I present them.
I also need to narrow down the elements. Thus, I really need some test that have cut-off points.  
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