"Anti-Excel" reference needed: American Statistical Association (2000)

[Albert-Jan Roskam]

Hi,

 

At various websites, I came across the following incomplete reference + quote:

American Statistical Association (ASA, 2000) “Generic packages such as Excel are not sufficient even for the teaching of statistics, let alone for research and consulting.”

 

Does anybody happen to know the exact reference? Thank you in advance.

Cheers!!
Albert-Jan

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[Bruce Weaver]

Albert-jan Roskam wrote

Hi,
 
At various websites, I came across the following incomplete reference + quote:
American Statistical Association (ASA, 2000) “Generic packages such as Excel are not sufficient even for the teaching of statistics, let alone for research and consulting.”
 
Does anybody happen to know the exact reference? Thank you in advance.

Cheers!!
Albert-Jan

One 2007 article gives this link, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be working:

  http://www.amstat.org/Education/index.cfn?fusoradian-ASAendorsement

You could try contacting the ASA at [e-mail].

Cheers,
Bruce

[Mike]



The statement you provide appears to come from the "American Statistical

Association (ASA) Endorsement of the Mathematical Association of America

(MAA) 'Guidelines for Programs and Departments in Undergraduate mathematical

Sciences' ", a copy of which is available on the Villanova University website;

see:

 

http://www07.homepage.villanova.edu/michael.posner/sigmaastated/ASAendorsement2.html

 

Your statement appears in the subsection on "Supprt", about half way

down the page.

 

-Mike Palij

New York University

[hidden email]

 

 

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Subject: "Anti-Excel" reference needed: American Statistical Association (2000)

Hi,

 

At various websites, I came across the following incomplete reference + quote:

American Statistical Association (ASA, 2000) “Generic packages such as Excel are not sufficient even for the teaching of statistics, let alone for research and consulting.”

 

Does anybody happen to know the exact reference? Thank you in advance.

Cheers!!
Albert-Jan

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All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
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[Art Kendall]

http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S2=spssx-l&q=excel&s=&f=reese&a=april+2009&b=april+2009

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.excel.programming/browse_thread/thread/26fe9a9a0d91139d/8b4bc52422a1ca99?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=mccullough+issue+heiser#8b4bc52422a1ca99

googling mccullough excel
gives lot of hits

Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

On 4/28/2010 6:20 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:

Hi,

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At various websites, I came across the following incomplete reference + quote:

American Statistical Association (ASA, 2000) “Generic packages such as Excel are not sufficient even for the teaching of statistics, let alone for research and consulting.”

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Does anybody happen to know the exact reference? Thank you in advance.

Cheers!!
Albert-Jan

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[Albert-Jan Roskam]

Hi Mike and Art,

 

Thank you for your replies. I've found some more links that you might also find interesting:

http://www.eusprig.org --> European spreadsheet risks interest group, nice site.
http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Tutor/spreadsheet_addiction.html --> I knew this one already, but it's good.


Cheers!!
Albert-Jan

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--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Mike Palij <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Mike Palij <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: "Anti-Excel" reference needed: American Statistical Association (2000)
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Cc: "Mike Palij" <[hidden email]>
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 2:06 PM



The statement you provide appears to come from the "American Statistical

Association (ASA) Endorsement of the Mathematical Association of America

(MAA) 'Guidelines for Programs and Departments in Undergraduate mathematical

Sciences' ", a copy of which is available on the Villanova University website;

see:

 

http://www07.homepage.villanova.edu/michael.posner/sigmaastated/ASAendorsement2.html

 

Your statement appears in the subsection on "Supprt", about half way

down the page.

 

-Mike Palij

New York University

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----- Original Message -----

From: Albert-Jan Roskam

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:20 AM

Subject: "Anti-Excel" reference needed: American Statistical Association (2000)

Hi,

 

At various websites, I came across the following incomplete reference + quote:

American Statistical Association (ASA, 2000) “Generic packages such as Excel are not sufficient even for the teaching of statistics, let alone for research and consulting.”

 

Does anybody happen to know the exact reference? Thank you in advance.

Cheers!!
Albert-Jan

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All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
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