Decimal digits in Model Viewer type of output

[Kirill Orlov]

Has Statistics been supplied with the option to customize the number of decimal digits displayed in Model Viewer? For example, I need to see "Sig." in new nonparametric tests with 8 digits, not just 3. What to do?

[Kornbrot, Diana]

As far as I can male out this IS possible if you are using mixed linear models, if so
Go to preferences > output and choose pivot table and charts in the display method
If you are using any other statistical procedure which use model viewer, you are at the mercy of the incompetent and innumerate team who designed the model viewer. Numeric output of the numbers that the excellent statistics team calculated is  IMPOSSIBLE, as far as I can see.
The best option, as indicated by Jon Peck [a real expert] is to export to pdf, making sure you have chosen the options all layers all visible.
Then save the .pdf to text. This at least gives one numbers, although only  with same accuracy as in the model viewer. Then you can open in exceland convert text to table with space as separator.
Alternatively look up the p-values corresponding to the F in tables, EXCEL or many on the net.

You might be wondering why people are spending vast sums to IBM ofr software, with excellent statistics but abysmal output options, I certainly am

Best
Diana



The model viewer is the worst object that SPSS has ever produced. As it is designed by people who appear allergic  to numbers


On 16/11/2013 05:30, "Kirill Orlov" <kior@...> wrote:

  Has Statistics been supplied with the option to customize the number of decimal digits displayed in Model Viewer? For example, I need to see "Sig." in new nonparametric tests with 8 digits, not just 3. What to do?
 
 

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[Bruce Weaver]

Don't sugar-coat it Diana...give it to us straight!  What do you really think about the model viewer?  ;-)

Kornbrot, Diana wrote

As far as I can male out this IS possible if you are using mixed linear models, if so
Go to preferences > output and choose pivot table and charts in the display method
If you are using any other statistical procedure which use model viewer, you are at the mercy of the incompetent and innumerate team who designed the model viewer. Numeric output of the numbers that the excellent statistics team calculated is  IMPOSSIBLE, as far as I can see.
The best option, as indicated by Jon Peck [a real expert] is to export to pdf, making sure you have chosen the options all layers all visible.
Then save the .pdf to text. This at least gives one numbers, although only  with same accuracy as in the model viewer. Then you can open in exceland convert text to table with space as separator.
Alternatively look up the p-values corresponding to the F in tables, EXCEL or many on the net.

You might be wondering why people are spending vast sums to IBM ofr software, with excellent statistics but abysmal output options, I certainly am

Best
Diana



The model viewer is the worst object that SPSS has ever produced. As it is designed by people who appear allergic  to numbers


On 16/11/2013 05:30, "Kirill Orlov" <[hidden email]> wrote:

  Has Statistics been supplied with the option to customize the number of decimal digits displayed in Model Viewer? For example, I need to see "Sig." in new nonparametric tests with 8 digits, not just 3. What to do?



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Department of Psychology
School of Life and Medical Sciences
University of Hertfordshire
College Lane, Hatfield, Hertfordshire AL10 9AB, UK
voice:   [phone]
Home
19 Elmhurst Avenue
London N2 0LT, UK
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[Jon K Peck]

Nonparametric tests in V22 can now be rendered as traditional pivot tables - the setting is in Edit > Options > Output.


Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
Senior Software Engineer, IBM
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Date:        11/15/2013 10:31 PM
Subject:        [SPSSX-L] Decimal digits in Model Viewer type of output
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Has Statistics been supplied with the option to customize the number of decimal digits displayed in Model Viewer? For example, I need to see "Sig." in new nonparametric tests with 8 digits, not just 3. What to do?