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Abdus Salam

How to convert positional data .

Dear expert lister,

I have a datafile like,

DATA LIST LIST /id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10.
BEGIN DATA.
1 1 . . . . . 1. 1.
2 . 1 1 1 . . . . ..
3 . . . . 1 1 1 . ..
END DATA.
LIST.

I need to convert this data in SPSS like :

DATA LIST LIST /id c1 c2 c3 .
BEGIN DATA.
1 1 7 9
2 2 3 4
3 5 6 7
END DATA.
LIST.

i.e. in the given datafile first record has respose coded 1 in r1,r7, r9 ;I need to convert this data
like c1 should have respose coded 1,c2 have response coded 7 and c3 have response coded 9.

Any quick help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks!
Abdus.

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hillel vardi

Re: How to convert positional data .

Shalom

Here is the a syntax to do what you need .

DATA LIST LIST /id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10.
BEGIN DATA.
1 1 . . . . . 1 . 1 .
2 . 1 1 1 . . . . . .
3 . . . . 1 1 1 . . .
END DATA.
numeric pos1 to pos10 .
vector r=r1 to r10 .
vector pos=pos1 to pos10 .
compute j=0 .
loop i=1 to 10.
if r(i) eq 1 j=j+1.
if r(i) eq 1 pos(j)=i .
end loop .
list id pos1 to pos4 .
execute .

Hillel Vardi
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Abdus Salam wrote:

> Dear expert lister,
>
> I have a datafile like,
>
> DATA LIST LIST /id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10.
> BEGIN DATA.
> 1 1 . . . . . 1. 1.
> 2 . 1 1 1 . . . . ..
> 3 . . . . 1 1 1 . ..
> END DATA.
> LIST.
>
> I need to convert this data in SPSS like :
>
> DATA LIST LIST /id c1 c2 c3 .
> BEGIN DATA.
> 1 1 7 9
> 2 2 3 4
> 3 5 6 7
> END DATA.
> LIST.
>
>
> i.e. in the given datafile first record has respose coded 1 in r1,r7, r9 ;I need to convert this data
> like c1 should have respose coded 1,c2 have response coded 7 and c3 have response coded 9.
>
> Any quick help will be highly appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks!
> Abdus.
>
>
>
>
>
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Marta Garcia-Granero

Re: How to convert positional data .

In reply to this post by Abdus Salam

Hi Abdus:

See if this helps you:

* Your dataset *.
DATA LIST LIST /id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10 .
BEGIN DATA.
1 1 . . . . . 1 . 1 .
2 . 1 1 1 . . . . . .
3 . . . . 1 1 1 . . .
END DATA.
LIST.

TEMPORARY.
SET MXLOOPS=100. /* Set it to your real sample size *.
MATRIX.
GET data /VAR r1 TO r10
/MISSING=ACCEPT /SYSMIS=0.
PRINT data.
COMPUTE output=MAKE(NROW(data),3,0).
LOOP i=1 TO NROW(data).
- COMPUTE counter=1.
- LOOP j=1 TO NCOL(data).
- DO IF data(i,j) NE 0.
- COMPUTE output(i,counter)=j.
- COMPUTE counter=counter+1.
- END IF.
- END LOOP.
END LOOP.
PRINT output.
SAVE output /OUTFILE='C:\Temp\Output data.sav'.
END MATRIX.
MATCH FILES /FILE=*
/FILE='C:\Temp\Output data.sav'.
FORMAT ALL(F8).
LIST VAR=id col1 TO col3.

Best regards,
Marta García-Granero

> I have a datafile like,
>
> DATA LIST LIST /id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10.
> BEGIN DATA.
> 1 1 . . . . . 1. 1.
> 2 . 1 1 1 . . . . ..
> 3 . . . . 1 1 1 . ..
> END DATA.
> LIST.
>
> I need to convert this data in SPSS like :
>
> DATA LIST LIST /id c1 c2 c3 .
> BEGIN DATA.
> 1 1 7 9
> 2 2 3 4
> 3 5 6 7
> END DATA.
> LIST.
>
>

Frederic Villamayor Forcada

Re: How to convert positional data .

Dear Abdus,

Here is a simpler(with Marta's permission, of course! ;-)) solution
without the need to use MATRIX:

DATA LIST LIST /id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10.
BEGIN DATA.
1 1 . . . . . 1 . 1 .
2 . 1 1 1 . . . . . .
3 . . . . 1 1 1 . . .
END DATA.
LIST.

FORMATS id TO r10 (F3).
VARIABLE WIDTH id TO r10 (3).

VECTOR r = r1 TO r10
/pos(10 F3).

LOOP #i = 1 to 10.
+ IF r(#i) EQ 1 pos(#i)=#i.
END LOOP.

NUMERIC c1 c2 c3 (F3).
COMPUTE c1 = MIN(pos1 TO pos10).
COMPUTE c3 = MAX(pos1 TO pos10).
COMPUTE c2 = SUM(pos1 TO pos10)-MIN(pos1 TO pos10)-MAX(pos1 TO pos10).

EXECUTE.

DELETE VAR r1 TO pos10.

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Re: [SPSSX-L] How to convert positional data .

Hi Abdus:

See if this helps you:

* Your dataset *.
DATA LIST LIST /id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10 .
BEGIN DATA.
1 1 . . . . . 1 . 1 .
2 . 1 1 1 . . . . . .
3 . . . . 1 1 1 . . .
END DATA.
LIST.

TEMPORARY.
SET MXLOOPS=100. /* Set it to your real sample size *.
MATRIX.
GET data /VAR r1 TO r10
/MISSING=ACCEPT /SYSMIS=0.
PRINT data.
COMPUTE output=MAKE(NROW(data),3,0).
LOOP i=1 TO NROW(data).
- COMPUTE counter=1.
- LOOP j=1 TO NCOL(data).
- DO IF data(i,j) NE 0.
- COMPUTE output(i,counter)=j.
- COMPUTE counter=counter+1.
- END IF.
- END LOOP.
END LOOP.
PRINT output.
SAVE output /OUTFILE='C:\Temp\Output data.sav'.
END MATRIX.
MATCH FILES /FILE=*
/FILE='C:\Temp\Output data.sav'.
FORMAT ALL(F8).
LIST VAR=id col1 TO col3.

Best regards,
Marta García-Granero

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Richard Ristow

Re: How to convert positional data .

In reply to this post by Abdus Salam

At 04:58 PM 11/24/2007, Abdus Salam wrote:

> I have a datafile like,
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
|Output Created |26-NOV-2007 08:48:13 |
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10

01 1 . . . . . 1 . 1 .
02 . 1 1 1 . . . . . .
03 . . . . 1 1 1 . . .

Number of cases read: 3 Number of cases listed: 3

> DATA LIST LIST /id c1 c2 c3 .
> BEGIN DATA.
> 1 1 7 9
> 2 2 3 4
> 3 5 6 7
> END DATA.

Here's a simpler VECTOR/LOOP solution. The logic is identical to that
of Marta's MATRIX solution. It has the advantage of generalizing to
any number of 'c' values.

In this solution, the 'r' values remain in the data; they could be
dropped afterward. This is SPSS 14 draft output (WRR: not saved separately):

VECTOR r = r1 TO r10
/c(3,F3).

COMPUTE #NextPos = 0.
LOOP #pos = 1 TO 10.
. DO IF r(#pos) GT 0.
. COMPUTE #NextPos = #NextPos + 1.
. COMPUTE c(#NextPos) = #pos.
. END IF.
END LOOP.

LIST.

List
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
|Output Created |26-NOV-2007 08:48:14 |
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|
id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10 c1 c2 c3

01 1 . . . . . 1 . 1 . 1 7 9
02 . 1 1 1 . . . . . . 2 3 4
03 . . . . 1 1 1 . . . 5 6 7

Number of cases read: 3 Number of cases listed: 3

==========================================
APPENDIX: Test data (from original posting)
===========================================
Note: Gives correct values, but copious warning
messages.

DATA LIST LIST /id r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 r9 r10.
BEGIN DATA.
1 1 . . . . . 1 . 1 .
2 . 1 1 1 . . . . . .
3 . . . . 1 1 1 . . .
END DATA.
FORMATS ID (N2)
/r1 TO r10 (F2).
LIST.

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Off topic Job listings

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I have been away from this listserve for a while and
wonder how the community feels about job postings to this forum?

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Hi Bill,

> I have been away from this listserve for a while and
> wonder how the community feels about job postings to
> this forum?

==> Being a researcher, and knowing that it's often
not easy to find a nice position, I'm totally okay
with it. I even consider it a friendly gesture. But of
course this list is primarily about SPSS & stats. It's
a matter of degree. The way it is right now, it does
not annoy me at all.

Albert-Jan

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Re: Off topic Job listings

It would be most helpful, I appreciate the gesture as well.

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Please respond to
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Hi Bill,

> I have been away from this listserve for a while and
> wonder how the community feels about job postings to
> this forum?

==> Being a researcher, and knowing that it's often
not easy to find a nice position, I'm totally okay
with it. I even consider it a friendly gesture. But of
course this list is primarily about SPSS & stats. It's
a matter of degree. The way it is right now, it does
not annoy me at all.

Albert-Jan

--- Bill Dudley <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cheers!
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Re: Off topic Job listings

I strongly oppose it. This group is for statistics and spss
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Lets keep the list for its prime purpose.

If anyone wants job ads there are specialist sites for those.

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> It would be most helpful, I appreciate the gesture as well.
>
>
>
> Albert-jan Roskam
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> Hi Bill,
>
> > I have been away from this listserve for a while and
> > wonder how the community feels about job postings to
> > this forum?
>
> ==> Being a researcher, and knowing that it's often
> not easy to find a nice position, I'm totally okay
> with it. I even consider it a friendly gesture. But of
> course this list is primarily about SPSS & stats. It's
> a matter of degree. The way it is right now, it does
> not annoy me at all.
>
> Albert-Jan
>
>
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Re: Off topic Job listings

I make a distinction between a job posting and a job ad. Having been recently approached by a recruiter for a job that didn't interest me, I thought it might interest any number of other contributors to this list, so posted it.

Job postings here are infrequent, and usually offered as tips between contributors, so I'm for it.

King Douglas
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David Lindsay <[hidden email]> wrote: I strongly oppose it. This group is for statistics and spss
discussion. A lot of the 1200 members are scattered around the
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Lets keep the list for its prime purpose.

If anyone wants job ads there are specialist sites for those.

Have a good day/ evening

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> It would be most helpful, I appreciate the gesture as well.
>
>
>
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>
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>
> Hi Bill,
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> > wonder how the community feels about job postings to
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>
> ==> Being a researcher, and knowing that it's often
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> with it. I even consider it a friendly gesture. But of
> course this list is primarily about SPSS & stats. It's
> a matter of degree. The way it is right now, it does
> not annoy me at all.
>
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Re: Off topic Job listings

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I agree with others - postings are infrequent and I agree with allowing
them. The assumption that these would be 'US-centric' is hasty.

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Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Off topic Job listings

I make a distinction between a job posting and a job ad. Having been
recently approached by a recruiter for a job that didn't interest me, I
thought it might interest any number of other contributors to this list, so
posted it.

Job postings here are infrequent, and usually offered as tips between
contributors, so I'm for it.

King Douglas
American Airlines Customer Research

David Lindsay <[hidden email]> wrote: I strongly oppose it.
This group is for statistics and spss
discussion. A lot of the 1200 members are scattered around the
world and US centric ads would be of no use to those people.

Lets keep the list for its prime purpose.

If anyone wants job ads there are specialist sites for those.

Have a good day/ evening

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Re: Off topic Job listings

I concur.

In addition, I know that I myself am looking for consulting
opportunities OUTSIDE the US.

Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

jemiller wrote:

> I agree with others - postings are infrequent and I agree with allowing
> them. The assumption that these would be 'US-centric' is hasty.
>
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> King Douglas
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> Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Off topic Job listings
>
> I make a distinction between a job posting and a job ad. Having been
> recently approached by a recruiter for a job that didn't interest me, I
> thought it might interest any number of other contributors to this list, so
> posted it.
>
> Job postings here are infrequent, and usually offered as tips between
> contributors, so I'm for it.
>
> King Douglas
> American Airlines Customer Research
>
>
> David Lindsay <[hidden email]> wrote: I strongly oppose it.
> This group is for statistics and spss
> discussion. A lot of the 1200 members are scattered around the
> world and US centric ads would be of no use to those people.
>
> Lets keep the list for its prime purpose.
>
> If anyone wants job ads there are specialist sites for those.
>
> Have a good day/ evening
>
>> It would be most helpful, I appreciate the gesture as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Albert-jan Roskam
>>
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>> "SPSSX(r) [hidden email]
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>> Re: Off topic Job listings
>>
>> 11/26/07 02:23 PM
>>
>>
>> Please respond to
>> Albert-jan Roskam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>>
>>> I have been away from this listserve for a while and
>>> wonder how the community feels about job postings to
>>> this forum?
>>>
>> ==> Being a researcher, and knowing that it's often
>> not easy to find a nice position, I'm totally okay
>> with it. I even consider it a friendly gesture. But of
>> course this list is primarily about SPSS & stats. It's
>> a matter of degree. The way it is right now, it does
>> not annoy me at all.
>>
>> Albert-Jan
>>
>>
>> --- Bill Dudley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have been away from this listserve for a while and
>>> wonder how the community feels about job postings to
>>> this forum?
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Re: Off topic Job listings

In reply to this post by Bill Dudley

As with several on this list, I am a consulting statistician and always
looking for opportunities. However, I am opposed to the list serve becoming
a "job post" listing.

Will
Statistical Services

On 11/28/2007 8:52:16 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> I concur.
>
> In addition, I know that I myself am looking for consulting
> opportunities OUTSIDE the US.
>
> Art Kendall
> Social Research Consultants
>
> jemiller wrote:
> > I agree with others - postings are infrequent and I agree with allowing
> > them. The assumption that these would be 'US-centric' is hasty.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
> Of
> > King Douglas
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:04 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Off topic Job listings
> >
> > I make a distinction between a job posting and a job ad. Having been
> > recently approached by a recruiter for a job that
> didn't interest me, I
> > thought it might interest any number of other contributors to this list,

> > posted it.
> >
> > Job postings here are infrequent, and usually offered as tips between
> > contributors, so I'm
> for it.
> >
> > King Douglas
> > American Airlines Customer Research
> >
> >
> > David Lindsay <[hidden email]> wrote: I strongly oppose it.
>
> > This group is for statistics and spss
> > discussion.

Will
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David Lindsay-4

Re: Off topic Job listings

The problem is how you police the emails so that you include
one sort of advert but not another sort.
This list is one of the best lists that I am a member of,
becuase of the lack of extraneous emails/ ads etc.
I have seen other lists disintegrate because they move away
from their original purpose. I don't want this to halppen to
this one.

If you want job ads/ consultancy opportunities then I suggest
that you talk to the moderator and start a new list. (I'd join
as well for the consultancy opportunities)

Regards

>
> As with several on this list, I am a consulting statistician and always
> looking for opportunities. However, I am opposed to the list
> serve becoming
> a "job post" listing.
>
> Will
> Statistical Services
>
>
> On 11/28/2007 8:52:16 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> > I concur.
> >
> > In addition, I know that I myself am looking for consulting
> > opportunities OUTSIDE the US.
> >
> > Art Kendall
> > Social Research Consultants
> >
> > jemiller wrote:
> > > I agree with others - postings are infrequent and I agree with allowing
> > > them. The assumption that these would be 'US-centric' is hasty.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > King Douglas
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:04 PM
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Off topic Job listings
> > >
> > > I make a distinction between a job posting and a job ad. Having been
> > > recently approached by a recruiter for a job that
> > didn't interest me, I
> > > thought it might interest any number of other contributors to this list,
> so
> > > posted it.
> > >
> > > Job postings here are infrequent, and usually offered as tips between
> > > contributors, so I'm
> > for it.
> > >
> > > King Douglas
> > > American Airlines Customer Research
> > >
> > >
> > > David Lindsay <[hidden email]> wrote: I strongly oppose it.
> >
> > > This group is for statistics and spss
> > > discussion.
>
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jemiller

Re: Off topic Job listings

Job postings are the least frequent postings I have seen on other lists I
have been on - epidemio and qualrs. Is there such a glut of jobs out there
that need to be posted here and would inundate this list? Workshops and
conferences are posted to this list, which to me are similar types of posts.
Those posts have not harmed this list and I think they fall into a category
of very infrequent but a useful exchange of info for members.
J

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
David Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:28 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Off topic Job listings

The problem is how you police the emails so that you include
one sort of advert but not another sort.
This list is one of the best lists that I am a member of,
becuase of the lack of extraneous emails/ ads etc.
I have seen other lists disintegrate because they move away
from their original purpose. I don't want this to halppen to
this one.

If you want job ads/ consultancy opportunities then I suggest
that you talk to the moderator and start a new list. (I'd join
as well for the consultancy opportunities)

Regards

allowing

> > > them. The assumption that these would be 'US-centric' is hasty.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > King Douglas
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:04 PM
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Off topic Job listings
> > >
> > > I make a distinction between a job posting and a job ad. Having been
> > > recently approached by a recruiter for a job that
> > didn't interest me, I
> > > thought it might interest any number of other contributors to this

list,

> so
> > > posted it.
> > >
> > > Job postings here are infrequent, and usually offered as tips between
> > > contributors, so I'm
> > for it.
> > >
> > > King Douglas
> > > American Airlines Customer Research
> > >
> > >
> > > David Lindsay <[hidden email]> wrote: I strongly oppose

it.

> >
> > > This group is for statistics and spss
> > > discussion.
>
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Roberts, Michael

Re: Off topic Job listings

Against - this list is pretty much on track as it is, IMHO.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
jemiller
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:22 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Off topic Job listings

Job postings are the least frequent postings I have seen on other lists
I
have been on - epidemio and qualrs. Is there such a glut of jobs out
there
that need to be posted here and would inundate this list? Workshops and
conferences are posted to this list, which to me are similar types of
posts.
Those posts have not harmed this list and I think they fall into a
category
of very infrequent but a useful exchange of info for members.
J

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
David Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:28 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Off topic Job listings

The problem is how you police the emails so that you include
one sort of advert but not another sort.
This list is one of the best lists that I am a member of,
becuase of the lack of extraneous emails/ ads etc.
I have seen other lists disintegrate because they move away
from their original purpose. I don't want this to halppen to
this one.

If you want job ads/ consultancy opportunities then I suggest
that you talk to the moderator and start a new list. (I'd join
as well for the consultancy opportunities)

Regards
>
> As with several on this list, I am a consulting statistician and
always

> looking for opportunities. However, I am opposed to the list
> serve becoming
> a "job post" listing.
>
> Will
> Statistical Services
>
>
> On 11/28/2007 8:52:16 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> > I concur.
> >
> > In addition, I know that I myself am looking for consulting
> > opportunities OUTSIDE the US.
> >
> > Art Kendall
> > Social Research Consultants
> >
> > jemiller wrote:
> > > I agree with others - postings are infrequent and I agree with

allowing
> > > them. The assumption that these would be 'US-centric' is hasty.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf
> > Of
> > > King Douglas
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:04 PM
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Off topic Job listings
> > >
> > > I make a distinction between a job posting and a job ad. Having
been
> > > recently approached by a recruiter for a job that
> > didn't interest me, I
> > > thought it might interest any number of other contributors to this
list,
> so
> > > posted it.
> > >
> > > Job postings here are infrequent, and usually offered as tips
between
> > > contributors, so I'm
> > for it.
> > >
> > > King Douglas
> > > American Airlines Customer Research
> > >
> > >
> > > David Lindsay <[hidden email]> wrote: I strongly
oppose
it.
> >
> > > This group is for statistics and spss
> > > discussion.
>
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