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LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

ajay atluri
Hi All,


I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.

I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in SPSS
16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?

If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.

Thanks in advance
Ajay Atluri

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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Christian Deindl
dear ajay,

as far as I know it is not possible to do LCA in SPSS.
But there are some good alternatives.
You can do LCA in SAS using PROC LCA (http://methcenter.psu.edu/),
LEM(http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/fsw/organisatie/departementen/mto/software2.html)
and GLLAMM in Stata.

LEM and PROC LCA are easy to handle, while GLLAMM is a little bit
complicated for LCA.






ajay atluri schrieb:

> Hi All,
>
>
> I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
>
> I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in SPSS
> 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
>
> If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ajay Atluri
>
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Manmit Shrimali-2
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Ajay:

As far as I know it is not possible in SPSS. For e.g. the cluster analysis in spss runs on distance while LCA is probabilistic approach. The process to create entire alogirth in spss may be worth as it will take significantly higher efforts than purchasing LCA capable software.

MS
-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Christian Deindl
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:57 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

dear ajay,

as far as I know it is not possible to do LCA in SPSS.
But there are some good alternatives.
You can do LCA in SAS using PROC LCA (http://methcenter.psu.edu/),
LEM(http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/fsw/organisatie/departementen/mto/software2.html)
and GLLAMM in Stata.

LEM and PROC LCA are easy to handle, while GLLAMM is a little bit
complicated for LCA.






ajay atluri schrieb:

> Hi All,
>
>
> I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
>
> I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in SPSS
> 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
>
> If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ajay Atluri
>
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Swank, Paul R
WinLTA is available for free from the same source as proc lca.

Paul R. Swank, Ph.D.
Professor and Director of Research
Children's Learning Institute
University of Texas Health Science Center - Houston


-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Manmit Shrimali
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:25 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Ajay:

As far as I know it is not possible in SPSS. For e.g. the cluster analysis in spss runs on distance while LCA is probabilistic approach. The process to create entire alogirth in spss may be worth as it will take significantly higher efforts than purchasing LCA capable software.

MS
-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Christian Deindl
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:57 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

dear ajay,

as far as I know it is not possible to do LCA in SPSS.
But there are some good alternatives.
You can do LCA in SAS using PROC LCA (http://methcenter.psu.edu/),
LEM(http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/fsw/organisatie/departementen/mto/software2.html)
and GLLAMM in Stata.

LEM and PROC LCA are easy to handle, while GLLAMM is a little bit
complicated for LCA.






ajay atluri schrieb:

> Hi All,
>
>
> I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
>
> I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in SPSS
> 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
>
> If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ajay Atluri
>
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Johnny Amora
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Ajay,

LCA is available in AMOS 16.

John


--- Manmit Shrimali <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ajay:
>
> As far as I know it is not possible in SPSS. For
> e.g. the cluster analysis in spss runs on distance
> while LCA is probabilistic approach. The process to
> create entire alogirth in spss may be worth as it
> will take significantly higher efforts than
> purchasing LCA capable software.
>
> MS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Christian Deindl
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS
>
> dear ajay,
>
> as far as I know it is not possible to do LCA in
> SPSS.
> But there are some good alternatives.
> You can do LCA in SAS using PROC LCA
> (http://methcenter.psu.edu/),
>
LEM(http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/fsw/organisatie/departementen/mto/software2.html)

> and GLLAMM in Stata.
>
> LEM and PROC LCA are easy to handle, while GLLAMM is
> a little bit
> complicated for LCA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ajay atluri schrieb:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> > I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
> >
> > I would like to know is it possible to run Latent
> Class Analysis in SPSS
> > 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other
> add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
> >
> > If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do
> that.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Ajay Atluri
> >
> > =====================
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>
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Spousta Jan
Hi All,

Now it is well possible to run LCA in SPSS if you have installed R programmability extension & the  e1071 package from http://cran.r-project.org/:

get FILE='C:\Program Files\SPSSInc\SPSS16\Samples\GSS93 subset.sav' /keep bigband to hvymetal.
DATASET NAME gss93 WINDOW=FRONT.

* prepare a sample of binary data.
select if max(bigband to hvymetal) >= 1.
exe.

mis val all ().
val lab all 1 "Likes it" 0 "Other feelings".
recode all (1, 2 = 1)(else = 0).
exe.

* run Latent Classes - must have installed R and e1071 package .
BEGIN PROGRAM R.
require(e1071)
casedata <- spssdata.GetDataFromSPSS()

m <- countpattern(casedata)
lcamodel <- lca(m, 3, niter=10)

print(lcamodel)

END PROGRAM.


It gives:

LCA-Result
----------

Datapoints: 1487
Classes:    3
Probability of classes
[1] 0.325 0.339 0.335
Itemprobabilities
     1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9   10   11
1 0.14 0.22 0.50 0.41 0.18 0.17 0.10 0.36 0.03 0.20 0.17
2 0.83 0.55 0.61 0.79 0.83 0.88 0.67 0.79 0.50 0.17 0.12
3 0.63 0.56 0.73 0.45 0.47 0.38 0.49 0.33 0.07 0.00 0.04

(My humble interpretation: 1=Hard music / 2=Classical music / 3=American traditional.)

Hope this helps,

Jan


-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Amora
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:56 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Ajay,

LCA is available in AMOS 16.

John


--- Manmit Shrimali <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ajay:
>
> As far as I know it is not possible in SPSS. For e.g. the cluster
> analysis in spss runs on distance while LCA is probabilistic approach.
> The process to create entire alogirth in spss may be worth as it will
> take significantly higher efforts than purchasing LCA capable
> software.
>
> MS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Christian Deindl
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS
>
> dear ajay,
>
> as far as I know it is not possible to do LCA in SPSS.
> But there are some good alternatives.
> You can do LCA in SAS using PROC LCA
> (http://methcenter.psu.edu/),
>
LEM(http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/fsw/organisatie/departementen/mto/software2.html)

> and GLLAMM in Stata.
>
> LEM and PROC LCA are easy to handle, while GLLAMM is a little bit
> complicated for LCA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ajay atluri schrieb:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> > I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
> >
> > I would like to know is it possible to run Latent
> Class Analysis in SPSS
> > 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other
> add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
> >
> > If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do
> that.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Ajay Atluri
> >
> > =====================
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

G. David Garson
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Amos 16 newly supports mixture analysis, which is a form of LCA.

From the Amos 16 "What's New":
"Amos 16.0 performs mixture modeling. Mixture modeling is appropriate
when you have a model that is incorrect for an entire population, but
where the population can be divided into subgroups in such a way that
the model is correct in each subgroup. Mixture modeling is discussed
in the context of structural equation modeling by Arminger, Stein &
Wittenberg (1999), Hoshino (2001), Lee (2007, Chapter 11), Loken
(2004), Vermunt & Magidson (2005), and Zhu & Lee (2001), among
others.

Zhu, H. T., & Lee, S. Y. (2001). A Bayesian analysis of finite
mixtures in the LISREL model. Psychometrika, 66(1), 133-152.
Vermunt, J. K., & Magidson, J. (2005). Structural equation models:
Mixture models. In B. Everitt & D. Howell (Eds.), Encyclopedia of
statistics in behavioral science (pp. 1922-1927). Chichester, UK:
Wiley.
Loken, E. (2004). Using latent class analysis to model temperament
types. Multivariate Behavioral Research, 39(4), 625-652.
Lee, S. Y. (2007). Structural equation modeling: A Bayesian approach.
Chichester, UK: John Wiley and Sons.
Hoshino, T. (2001). Bayesian inference for finite mixtures in
confirmatory factor analysis. Behaviormetrika, 28(1), 37-63.
Arminger, G., Stein, P., & Wittenberg, J. (1999). Mixtures of
conditional mean- and covariance-structure models. Psychometrika,
64(4), 475-494.
Any model can be used in mixture modeling. Example 34 and Example 35
use a saturated model. These examples also demonstrate the fitting of
latent structure analysis models, which require the observed
variables to be independent (uncorrelated for multivariate normal
variables). Example 36 employs a regression model. Factor analysis
models have also been used in mixture modeling (Lubke & Muthén,
2005).

Lubke, G. H., & Muthén, B. (2005). Investigating population
heterogeneity with factor mixture models. Psychological Methods,
10(1), 21-39.
Mixture modeling is often known as latent class analysis. In the
terminology of Lazarsfeld (Lazarsfeld & Henry, 1968), the term latent
class analysis is reserved for the variant of latent structure
analysis in which all variables are categorical. Amos does not
perform that type of latent class analysis."

Lazarsfeld, P. F., & Henry, N. W. (1968). Latent structure analysis.
Boston: Houghton Mifflin.
"

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From:                   Christian Deindl <[hidden email]>
Subject:                Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS
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> dear ajay,
>
> as far as I know it is not possible to do LCA in SPSS.
> But there are some good alternatives.
> You can do LCA in SAS using PROC LCA (http://methcenter.psu.edu/),
> LEM(http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/fsw/organisatie/departementen/mto/software2.html)
> and GLLAMM in Stata.
>
> LEM and PROC LCA are easy to handle, while GLLAMM is a little bit
> complicated for LCA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ajay atluri schrieb:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> > I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
> >
> > I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in SPSS
> > 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
> >
> > If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Ajay Atluri
> >
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Geetu Chopra
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Hi Ajay,

This is still not possible to do in SPSS, not even in their latest version.

But there are some good softwares like Latent Gold and MPlus. In Latent Gold, you have Bayes constants which avoids boundary solutions, helps in relaxing and diagnosing local dependence and many other features.

Mplus also has variety of features and capabilities, but I find it more complex.

There is also one free software LEM, if you want to try. It doesnt have as many features as Gold and MPlus, but it handles basic things like unconstrained and constrained LCA, loglinear, and other data modeling methods, gives asymptotic errors for parameter estimates etc. Local dependence can be easily handled using this.

There are 2 SAS procedures like PROC LTA and PROC LCA which are available free of charge from The SAS Methodology Center's website.


Hope this would help!

Geetu Chopra

ajay atluri wrote
Hi All,


I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.

I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in SPSS
16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?

If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.

Thanks in advance
Ajay Atluri

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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Manmit Shrimali-2
Ajay:

I think you can achieve LCA using AMOS. You may want to visit SPSS Amos website.


-----Original Message-----
From:   SPSSX(r) Discussion on behalf of Geetu Chopra
Sent:   Tue 6/3/2008 7:00 PM
To:     [hidden email]
Cc:
Subject:             Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Hi Ajay,

This is still not possible to do in SPSS, not even in their latest version.

But there are some good softwares like Latent Gold and MPlus. In Latent
Gold, you have Bayes constants which avoids boundary solutions, helps in
relaxing and diagnosing local dependence and many other features.

Mplus also has variety of features and capabilities, but I find it more
complex.

There is also one free software LEM, if you want to try. It doesnt have as
many features as Gold and MPlus, but it handles basic things like
unconstrained and constrained LCA, loglinear, and other data modeling
methods, gives asymptotic errors for parameter estimates etc. Local
dependence can be easily handled using this.

There are 2 SAS procedures like PROC LTA and PROC LCA which are available
free of charge from The SAS Methodology Center's website.


Hope this would help!

Geetu Chopra


ajay atluri wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
>
> I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
>
> I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in SPSS
> 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
>
> If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ajay Atluri
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

John Amora
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Hi Geetu Chopra,

  The LCA can be done also in the latest version of AMOS (version 16).

  Johnny

Geetu Chopra <[hidden email]> wrote:
  Hi Ajay,

This is still not possible to do in SPSS, not even in their latest version.

But there are some good softwares like Latent Gold and MPlus. In Latent
Gold, you have Bayes constants which avoids boundary solutions, helps in
relaxing and diagnosing local dependence and many other features.

Mplus also has variety of features and capabilities, but I find it more
complex.

There is also one free software LEM, if you want to try. It doesnt have as
many features as Gold and MPlus, but it handles basic things like
unconstrained and constrained LCA, loglinear, and other data modeling
methods, gives asymptotic errors for parameter estimates etc. Local
dependence can be easily handled using this.

There are 2 SAS procedures like PROC LTA and PROC LCA which are available
free of charge from The SAS Methodology Center's website.


Hope this would help!

Geetu Chopra


ajay atluri wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
>
> I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
>
> I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in SPSS
> 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
>
> If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ajay Atluri
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Swank, Paul R
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PROC LCA & LTA are available free from Penn State's Methodology Center
but you must have SAS to run them. They also have a stand alone LCA/LTA
program available.see

http://methodology.psu.edu/index.php/component/content/230?task=view


Paul R. Swank, Ph.D.
Professor and Director of Research
Children's Learning Institute
University of Texas Health Science Center - Houston


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Geetu Chopra
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:30 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Hi Ajay,

This is still not possible to do in SPSS, not even in their latest
version.

But there are some good softwares like Latent Gold and MPlus. In Latent
Gold, you have Bayes constants which avoids boundary solutions, helps in
relaxing and diagnosing local dependence and many other features.

Mplus also has variety of features and capabilities, but I find it more
complex.

There is also one free software LEM, if you want to try. It doesnt have
as
many features as Gold and MPlus, but it handles basic things like
unconstrained and constrained LCA, loglinear, and other data modeling
methods, gives asymptotic errors for parameter estimates etc. Local
dependence can be easily handled using this.

There are 2 SAS procedures like PROC LTA and PROC LCA which are
available
free of charge from The SAS Methodology Center's website.


Hope this would help!

Geetu Chopra


ajay atluri wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
>
> I would like to know is it possible to run Latent Class Analysis in
SPSS

> 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
>
> If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do that.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ajay Atluri
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

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Hi Jan and listers,

Are there tutorial reference available on the use of R programmability extension within the SPSS invironment?  

Thank you.

John

Spousta Jan wrote

Now it is well possible to run LCA in SPSS if you have installed R programmability extension & the  e1071 package from http://cran.r-project.org/:

get FILE='C:\Program Files\SPSSInc\SPSS16\Samples\GSS93 subset.sav' /keep bigband to hvymetal.
DATASET NAME gss93 WINDOW=FRONT.

* prepare a sample of binary data.
select if max(bigband to hvymetal) >= 1.
exe.

mis val all ().
val lab all 1 "Likes it" 0 "Other feelings".
recode all (1, 2 = 1)(else = 0).
exe.

* run Latent Classes - must have installed R and e1071 package .
BEGIN PROGRAM R.
require(e1071)
casedata <- spssdata.GetDataFromSPSS()

m <- countpattern(casedata)
lcamodel <- lca(m, 3, niter=10)

print(lcamodel)

END PROGRAM.


It gives:

LCA-Result
----------

Datapoints: 1487
Classes:    3
Probability of classes
[1] 0.325 0.339 0.335
Itemprobabilities
     1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9   10   11
1 0.14 0.22 0.50 0.41 0.18 0.17 0.10 0.36 0.03 0.20 0.17
2 0.83 0.55 0.61 0.79 0.83 0.88 0.67 0.79 0.50 0.17 0.12
3 0.63 0.56 0.73 0.45 0.47 0.38 0.49 0.33 0.07 0.00 0.04

(My humble interpretation: 1=Hard music / 2=Classical music / 3=American traditional.)

Hope this helps,

Jan


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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Ajay,

LCA is available in AMOS 16.

John


--- Manmit Shrimali <MShrimali@marketrx.com> wrote:

> Ajay:
>
> As far as I know it is not possible in SPSS. For e.g. the cluster
> analysis in spss runs on distance while LCA is probabilistic approach.
> The process to create entire alogirth in spss may be worth as it will
> take significantly higher efforts than purchasing LCA capable
> software.
>
> MS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion
> [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian Deindl
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:57 PM
> To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS
>
> dear ajay,
>
> as far as I know it is not possible to do LCA in SPSS.
> But there are some good alternatives.
> You can do LCA in SAS using PROC LCA
> (http://methcenter.psu.edu/),
>
LEM(http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/fsw/organisatie/departementen/mto/software2.html)
> and GLLAMM in Stata.
>
> LEM and PROC LCA are easy to handle, while GLLAMM is a little bit
> complicated for LCA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ajay atluri schrieb:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> > I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
> >
> > I would like to know is it possible to run Latent
> Class Analysis in SPSS
> > 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other
> add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
> >
> > If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do
> that.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Ajay Atluri
> >
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Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Peck, Jon
There is a chapter with examples in the book Programming and Data Management for SPSS 16 on R programming within SPSS.  You can purchase hardcopy or download a free PDF.  There is a link on the SPSS Developer Central main page (www.spss.com/devcentral).

HTH,
Jon Peck

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From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Amora
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:51 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS

Hi Jan and listers,

Are there tutorial reference available on the use of R programmability
extension within the SPSS invironment?

Thank you.

John


Spousta Jan wrote:

>
>
>
> Now it is well possible to run LCA in SPSS if you have installed R
> programmability extension & the  e1071 package from
> http://cran.r-project.org/:
>
> get FILE='C:\Program Files\SPSSInc\SPSS16\Samples\GSS93 subset.sav' /keep
> bigband to hvymetal.
> DATASET NAME gss93 WINDOW=FRONT.
>
> * prepare a sample of binary data.
> select if max(bigband to hvymetal) >= 1.
> exe.
>
> mis val all ().
> val lab all 1 "Likes it" 0 "Other feelings".
> recode all (1, 2 = 1)(else = 0).
> exe.
>
> * run Latent Classes - must have installed R and e1071 package .
> BEGIN PROGRAM R.
> require(e1071)
> casedata <- spssdata.GetDataFromSPSS()
>
> m <- countpattern(casedata)
> lcamodel <- lca(m, 3, niter=10)
>
> print(lcamodel)
>
> END PROGRAM.
>
>
> It gives:
>
> LCA-Result
> ----------
>
> Datapoints: 1487
> Classes:    3
> Probability of classes
> [1] 0.325 0.339 0.335
> Itemprobabilities
>      1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9   10   11
> 1 0.14 0.22 0.50 0.41 0.18 0.17 0.10 0.36 0.03 0.20 0.17
> 2 0.83 0.55 0.61 0.79 0.83 0.88 0.67 0.79 0.50 0.17 0.12
> 3 0.63 0.56 0.73 0.45 0.47 0.38 0.49 0.33 0.07 0.00 0.04
>
> (My humble interpretation: 1=Hard music / 2=Classical music / 3=American
> traditional.)
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> John Amora
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:56 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS
>
> Ajay,
>
> LCA is available in AMOS 16.
>
> John
>
>
> --- Manmit Shrimali <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Ajay:
>>
>> As far as I know it is not possible in SPSS. For e.g. the cluster
>> analysis in spss runs on distance while LCA is probabilistic approach.
>> The process to create entire alogirth in spss may be worth as it will
>> take significantly higher efforts than purchasing LCA capable
>> software.
>>
>> MS
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Christian Deindl
>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:57 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: LCA and Cluster analysis in SPSS
>>
>> dear ajay,
>>
>> as far as I know it is not possible to do LCA in SPSS.
>> But there are some good alternatives.
>> You can do LCA in SAS using PROC LCA
>> (http://methcenter.psu.edu/),
>>
> LEM(http://www.uvt.nl/faculteiten/fsw/organisatie/departementen/mto/software2.html)
>> and GLLAMM in Stata.
>>
>> LEM and PROC LCA are easy to handle, while GLLAMM is a little bit
>> complicated for LCA.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ajay atluri schrieb:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> >
>> > I am struggling to do LCA in SPSS.
>> >
>> > I would like to know is it possible to run Latent
>> Class Analysis in SPSS
>> > 16.0 or any other versions of it. or any other
>> add-ons like AMOS 16.0?
>> >
>> > If the answer is yes, please let me know how to do
>> that.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance
>> > Ajay Atluri
>> >
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>> CH - 8050 Zürich
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Dear All, I am intending to apply the Factor Mixture Modeling (FMM) on Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) in order to subtype the disorder into homogenous phenotypes; however, I do not know the software that should be used to perform FMM. I would appreciate it if you can provide me with the software used for this purpose and the procedure (methodology) of how to perform the analysis such as what are input data files, dataset format, output data files, how output data files can be read, and what are the parameters need to focus on? Thanks in advance Dopamine
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Check on the MPLUS software
goto

www.statmodel.com
and look at the users manual to see if they have examples similar to what you are looking for.
Then you may want to sign up for one of their courses.  They typically text an 8 session course throughout the year at Johns Hopkins


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