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I'm running a multinomial logistic regression and I'd like to find out which set of variable contributes more to the total R2 (i.e.: variables that were assessed before entering school (1th set) and variables that were assessed after a few months in school (2nd set)). I can only think of running two seperat regression models and compare the two R2, but I'm sure there must be a more elegant way of doing this. I would appreciate your help a lot. Thank you in advance and kind regards Rieden |
Reiden,
Unfortunately, logistic regression procedures only provide a pseudo r-squared that should not be compared across models. The pseudo r-squared cannot be interpreted in the same way that an OLS r-squared is interpreted. Best Regards, Stephen Brand www.StatisticsDoc.com -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rieden246 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Multinomial logistic regression: r2 for two different sets of variables Hi I'm running a multinomial logistic regression and I'd like to find out which set of variable contributes more to the total R2 (i.e.: variables that were assessed before entering school (1th set) and variables that were assessed after a few months in school (2nd set)). I can only think of running two seperat regression models and compare the two R2, but I'm sure there must be a more elegant way of doing this. I would appreciate your help a lot. Thank you in advance and kind regards Rieden -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/Multinomial-logistic-regressio n-r2-for-two-different-sets-of-variables-tp5114543p5114543.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
You can use BIC and AIC to compared non-nested models.
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From: StatisticsDoc <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Multinomial logistic regression: r2 for two different sets of variables Reiden, Unfortunately, logistic regression procedures only provide a pseudo r-squared that should not be compared across models. The pseudo r-squared cannot be interpreted in the same way that an OLS r-squared is interpreted. Best Regards, Stephen Brand www.StatisticsDoc.com -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rieden246 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Multinomial logistic regression: r2 for two different sets of variables Hi I'm running a multinomial logistic regression and I'd like to find out which set of variable contributes more to the total R2 (i.e.: variables that were assessed before entering school (1th set) and variables that were assessed after a few months in school (2nd set)). I can only think of running two seperat regression models and compare the two R2, but I'm sure there must be a more elegant way of doing this. I would appreciate your help a lot. Thank you in advance and kind regards Rieden -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/Multinomial-logistic-regressio n-r2-for-two-different-sets-of-variables-tp5114543p5114543.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Andrea,
As Scott suggests, AIC and BIC can be used to compare non-nested models, although some caution must be exercised as there are circumstances in which the use of these indices can be misleading (e.g., if the dependent variable is transformed in one model and not in the other). Nested models are less problematic as they tend to resemble one another except for the exclusion of certain predictors. If the following suggesting makes sense theoretically and in application, you might want to reframe your question in terms of a test of nested models. For example, you might want to ask whether set 2 makes am incremental contribution to a model that already contains set 1. The comparison here would lie between a model with both sets and one with set 1 only. In any case, please also note that AIC and BIC indicate relative support for a model, and do not mean the same thing as variance accounted for. If you want to say that one model has substantially more support from the data, the use of AIC and BIC would be helpful. However, the claim that one model accounts for X% more variance cannot be addressed in the OLS sense as logistic regression is inherently different. Nonetheless, I suspect that you can address your research questions by focusing on the question of relative support from AIC and BIC. Best Regards, Stephen Brand www.StatisticsDoc.com -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rieden246 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Multinomial logistic regression: r2 for two different sets of variables Hi I'm running a multinomial logistic regression and I'd like to find out which set of variable contributes more to the total R2 (i.e.: variables that were assessed before entering school (1th set) and variables that were assessed after a few months in school (2nd set)). I can only think of running two seperat regression models and compare the two R2, but I'm sure there must be a more elegant way of doing this. I would appreciate your help a lot. Thank you in advance and kind regards Rieden -- View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/Multinomial-logistic-regressio n-r2-for-two-different-sets-of-variables-tp5114543p5114543.html Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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