(New) Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...

[Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)]

Greeting Listserv Readers,

At http://r4stats.com/popularity I have added plots, data, and/or
discussion of:

1. Scholarly impact of each package across the years
2. The number of subscribers to some of the listservs
3. How popular each package is among Google searches across the years
4. Survey results from a Rexer Analytics poll
5. Survey results from a KDnuggests poll
6. A rudimentary analysis of the software skills that employers are
seeking

Thanks very much to all the folks who helped on this project including:
John Fox, Marc Schwartz, Duncan Murdoch, Martin Weiss, John (Jiangtang)
HU, Andre Wielki, Kjetil Halvorsen, Dario Solari, Joris Meys, Keo
Ormsby, Karl Rexer, and Gregory Piatetsky-Shapiro.

If anyone can think of other angles, please let me know.

Cheers,
Bob

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[Russel Wildeman]

This is truly interesting and makes me wonder should people still have
discussions about the "best package." Because from your research, it seems
to me that the big three (Stata, SPSS and SAS) are doing equally well across
the business and academic markets.

However, is there a penchant among specific disciplines for certain
packages? My sense is that economists prefer Stata even though an increasing
number of "social scientists" are using Stata too.

Just my thoughts,
Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
Sent: 28 June 2010 03:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: (New) Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...

Greeting Listserv Readers,

At http://r4stats.com/popularity I have added plots, data, and/or
discussion of:

1. Scholarly impact of each package across the years
2. The number of subscribers to some of the listservs
3. How popular each package is among Google searches across the years
4. Survey results from a Rexer Analytics poll
5. Survey results from a KDnuggests poll
6. A rudimentary analysis of the software skills that employers are
seeking

Thanks very much to all the folks who helped on this project including:
John Fox, Marc Schwartz, Duncan Murdoch, Martin Weiss, John (Jiangtang)
HU, Andre Wielki, Kjetil Halvorsen, Dario Solari, Joris Meys, Keo
Ormsby, Karl Rexer, and Gregory Piatetsky-Shapiro.

If anyone can think of other angles, please let me know.

Cheers,
Bob

=========================================================
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  Research Computing Support
  Voice: [phone]
  Email: [hidden email]
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  News:  http://oit.utk.edu/research/news.php
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[Joris FA Meys]

Dear Robert,

I've tried to acces that link, but to no prevail. Seems the server
r4stats.com is down, as he doesn't respond. This link got me to the
site :
http://sites.google.com/site/r4statistics/popularity

Cheers
Joris

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Greeting Listserv Readers,
>
> At http://r4stats.com/popularity I have added plots, data, and/or
> discussion of:
>
> 1. Scholarly impact of each package across the years
> 2. The number of subscribers to some of the listservs
> 3. How popular each package is among Google searches across the years
> 4. Survey results from a Rexer Analytics poll
> 5. Survey results from a KDnuggests poll
> 6. A rudimentary analysis of the software skills that employers are
> seeking
>
> Thanks very much to all the folks who helped on this project including:
> John Fox, Marc Schwartz, Duncan Murdoch, Martin Weiss, John (Jiangtang)
> HU, Andre Wielki, Kjetil Halvorsen, Dario Solari, Joris Meys, Keo
> Ormsby, Karl Rexer, and Gregory Piatetsky-Shapiro.
>
> If anyone can think of other angles, please let me know.
>
> Cheers,
> Bob
>
> =========================================================
>  Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
>  Research Computing Support
>  Voice: [phone]
>  Email: [hidden email]
>  Web:   http://oit.utk.edu/research,
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Joris Meys
Statistical consultant

Ghent University
Faculty of Bioscience Engineering
Department of Applied mathematics, biometrics and process control

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[Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Russel Wildeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:17 AM
>To: Muenchen, Robert A (Bob); [hidden email]
>Subject: RE: (New) Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>
>This is truly interesting and makes me wonder should people still have
>discussions about the "best package." Because from your research, it
>seems
>to me that the big three (Stata, SPSS and SAS) are doing equally well
>across
>the business and academic markets.

I have a tough time relating to that age-old "quest for the best." I
really like all the ones I use: JMP, R, SAS, SPSS & Stata. If I got to
know the others better, I'd probably like them too. When people ask me
which is "best" it's like asking which of my children is best. JMP's
visualization is fabulous and its speed of exploration is tops; R is
great for programming, writing new analytic methods, has superb graphics
and a vast library of functions; SAS is great for massive amounts of
data, for having a good all-around language and lots of procs; SPSS has
a superb user interface, the ability to deal with massive amounts of
data and a great  R interface; Stata has a wonderfully concise and
easy-to-use language that is also good for developing new analytic
methods. Good stuff all around!

>
>However, is there a penchant among specific disciplines for certain
>packages? My sense is that economists prefer Stata even though an
>increasing
>number of "social scientists" are using Stata too.

The main focus I saw in looking at the job advertisements was that the
jobs looking for Minitab and JMP skills were virtually all industry.

Cheers,
Bob

>
>Just my thoughts,
>Russell
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
Of

>Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
>Sent: 28 June 2010 03:53 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: (New) Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>
>Greeting Listserv Readers,
>
>At http://r4stats.com/popularity I have added plots, data, and/or
>discussion of:
>
>1. Scholarly impact of each package across the years
>2. The number of subscribers to some of the listservs
>3. How popular each package is among Google searches across the years
>4. Survey results from a Rexer Analytics poll
>5. Survey results from a KDnuggests poll
>6. A rudimentary analysis of the software skills that employers are
>seeking
>
>Thanks very much to all the folks who helped on this project including:
>John Fox, Marc Schwartz, Duncan Murdoch, Martin Weiss, John (Jiangtang)
>HU, Andre Wielki, Kjetil Halvorsen, Dario Solari, Joris Meys, Keo
>Ormsby, Karl Rexer, and Gregory Piatetsky-Shapiro.
>
>If anyone can think of other angles, please let me know.
>
>Cheers,
>Bob
>
>=========================================================
>  Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
>  Research Computing Support
>  Voice: [phone]
>  Email: [hidden email]
>  Web:   http://oit.utk.edu/research,
>  News:  http://oit.utk.edu/research/news.php
>  Feedback: http://oit.utk.edu/feedback/
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[Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
Of

>Joris Meys
>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:38 AM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [R] (New) Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>
>Dear Robert,
>
>I've tried to acces that link, but to no prevail. Seems the server
>r4stats.com is down, as he doesn't respond. This link got me to the
>site :
>http://sites.google.com/site/r4statistics/popularity

Joris,

Thanks for pointing that out. Google Sites seems to have occasional bugs
that keep links that are normally good from working. It tends to happen
after I've made changes. I'll bet if you try it again, it'll work.

Thanks,
Bob

>
>Cheers
>Joris
>
>On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
><[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Greeting Listserv Readers,
>>
>> At http://r4stats.com/popularity I have added plots, data, and/or
>> discussion of:
>>
>> 1. Scholarly impact of each package across the years
>> 2. The number of subscribers to some of the listservs
>> 3. How popular each package is among Google searches across the years
>> 4. Survey results from a Rexer Analytics poll
>> 5. Survey results from a KDnuggests poll
>> 6. A rudimentary analysis of the software skills that employers are
>> seeking
>>
>> Thanks very much to all the folks who helped on this project
>including:
>> John Fox, Marc Schwartz, Duncan Murdoch, Martin Weiss, John
>(Jiangtang)
>> HU, Andre Wielki, Kjetil Halvorsen, Dario Solari, Joris Meys, Keo
>> Ormsby, Karl Rexer, and Gregory Piatetsky-Shapiro.
>>
>> If anyone can think of other angles, please let me know.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bob
>>
>> =========================================================
>>  Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
>>  Research Computing Support
>>  Voice: [phone]
>>  Email: [hidden email]
>>  Web:   http://oit.utk.edu/research,
>>  News:  http://oit.utk.edu/research/news.php
>>  Feedback: http://oit.utk.edu/feedback/
>> =========================================================
>>
>> ______________________________________________
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>> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-
>guide.html
>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Joris Meys
>Statistical consultant
>
>Ghent University
>Faculty of Bioscience Engineering
>Department of Applied mathematics, biometrics and process control
>
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