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Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)

Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

Greetings,

I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data Analysis Software" at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update includes complete data for 2010, the addition of number of blogs for each software, more coverage of Statistica, and, where possible, measures regarding the implementations of the SAS Language: Carolina and the World Programming System (WPS).

Cheers,
Bob

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San K

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

I have been using SPSS to do extensive data manipulation and Stata to
do panel modelling. I think it is not fair to compare SPSS vs Stata.
They are simply two different products aimed at different users and
end products. May be it is okay to compare SPSS vs SAS and then Stata
vs R.
Personally I would keep the SPSS but ditch the "Advance module" in
SPSS and get Stata for that same money.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data Analysis Software" at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update includes complete data for 2010, the addition of number of blogs for each software, more coverage of Statistica, and, where possible, measures regarding the implementations of the SAS Language: Carolina and the World Programming System (WPS).
>
> Cheers,
> Bob
>
> =========================================================
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Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

That's a good point. I don't attempt to compare software capabilities other than the crude measure of counting add-ons. Two articles that do are by Michael Mitchell and Pat Burns. You can read them at UCLA:
http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/technicalreports/
I suspect each of us would come to our own unique conclusions about which capabilities are important to us.

Cheers,
Bob

>-----Original Message-----
>From: San K [mailto:[hidden email]]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:44 AM
>To: Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
>Cc: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated
>
>I have been using SPSS to do extensive data manipulation and Stata to do panel
>modelling. I think it is not fair to compare SPSS vs Stata.
>They are simply two different products aimed at different users and end products.
>May be it is okay to compare SPSS vs SAS and then Stata vs R.
>Personally I would keep the SPSS but ditch the "Advance module" in SPSS and get
>Stata for that same money.
>
>
>On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
><[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data Analysis Software"
>at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update includes complete data for 2010,
>the addition of number of blogs for each software, more coverage of Statistica,
>and, where possible, measures regarding the implementations of the SAS
>Language: Carolina and the World Programming System (WPS).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bob
>>
>> =========================================================
>> Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
>> Research Computing Support
>> Voice: (865) 974-5230
>> Email: [hidden email]
>> Web: http://oit.utk.edu/research,
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David Marso

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

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"SPSS has had a relatively low and consistent amount of discussion over the years. SPSS’ traditional user base is in the social sciences where, in my experience, people are less interested in programming and more interested in the product’s easy-to-use graphical user interface. It had that interface for the whole of the period shown. ".

I'm not so sure that the social sciences tradition is all that accurate these days. More and more marketing research shops are using SPSS than ever before. Also recent versions of SPSS support extensive programmability and integration with the R language. Much of what I have done for my clients in recent years is to build custom macros/GUI in VB which extend the standard SPSS capabilities. I also see many more people realizing the limitations of the dialog boxes/GUI and learning SPSS syntax.

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Bruce Weaver

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

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Hi Bob. It looks like the data for SPSS in graph 1 are for the usenet newsgroup (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.stat.spss/topics). As someone who lurks in that newsgroup and on this mailing list, it seems to me that there is a fair bit more traffic on the mailing list these days. You can find archives for the mailing list in a couple places.

http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/spssx-l.html
http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/

Cheers,
Bruce

Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote

Greetings,

I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data Analysis Software" at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update includes complete data for 2010, the addition of number of blogs for each software, more coverage of Statistica, and, where possible, measures regarding the implementations of the SAS Language: Carolina and the World Programming System (WPS).

Cheers,
Bob

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Larry Burriss

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

I don't recall if this was addressed in the article, but how much discussion
is generated because a program is difficult to use, etc? I don't know that
the amount of discussion is really related to popularity or use. People
generally don't discuss the advantages and benefits of a program, but
usually write to ask help solving a problem or to complain. Maybe the
programs generating the most discussion are also the most difficult to use.

/ Larry /

LARRY L. BURRISS, Ph.D., J.D.
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-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Bruce Weaver
Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 1:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

Hi Bob. It looks like the data for SPSS in graph 1 are for the usenet
newsgroup (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.stat.spss/topics).
As someone who lurks in that newsgroup and on this mailing list, it seems to
me that there is a fair bit more traffic on the mailing list these days.
You can find archives for the mailing list in a couple places.

http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/spssx-l.html
http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/

Cheers,
Bruce

Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:

>
> Greetings,
>
> I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data
> Analysis Software" at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update
> includes complete data for 2010, the addition of number of blogs for each
> software, more coverage of Statistica, and, where possible, measures
> regarding the implementations of the SAS Language: Carolina and the World
> Programming System (WPS).
>
> Cheers,
> Bob
>
> =========================================================
> Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
> Research Computing Support
> Voice: (865) 974-5230
> Email: [hidden email]
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Albert-Jan Roskam

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

I was thinking the very same thing. It might very well mean that R raises more questions than any other statistical package.

I find Figure 8 (the explosive growth of R packages over time) rather disconcerting. I would appreciate a carefully selected, user-friendly set of standard packages, not just for theoretical and cute little datasets, but also for data from the Real World. I especially don't like it that many things can be done in 4 or 5 different ways. That makes code less readable. It's difficult to see the trees through the forest with so many commands for the same thing. Wanna make an aggregate? You can use by(), tapply(), sapply(), ddply(), aggregate() and probably a bunch more.

Cheers!!
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From: Larry Burriss <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 8:18:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

I don't recall if this was addressed in the article, but how much discussion
is generated because a program is difficult to use, etc? I don't know that
the amount of discussion is really related to popularity or use. People
generally don't discuss the advantages and benefits of a program, but
usually write to ask help solving a problem or to complain. Maybe the
programs generating the most discussion are also the most difficult to use.

/ Larry /

LARRY L. BURRISS, Ph.D., J.D.
Professor
School of Journalism
Middle Tennessee State University
Murfreesboro, TN 37132

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-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Bruce Weaver
Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 1:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

Hi Bob. It looks like the data for SPSS in graph 1 are for the usenet
newsgroup (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.stat.spss/topics).
As someone who lurks in that newsgroup and on this mailing list, it seems to
me that there is a fair bit more traffic on the mailing list these days.
You can find archives for the mailing list in a couple places.

http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/spssx-l.html
http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/

Cheers,
Bruce

Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data
> Analysis Software" at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update

> includes complete data for 2010, the addition of number of blogs for each
> software, more coverage of Statistica, and, where possible, measures
> regarding the implementations of the SAS Language: Carolina and the World
> Programming System (WPS).
>
> Cheers,
> Bob
>
> =========================================================
> Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
> Research Computing Support
> Voice: (865) 974-5230
> Email: [hidden email]

> Web: http://oit.utk.edu/research,
> News: http://oit.utk.edu/research/news.php

> ========================================================
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Michael Friendly

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

In reply to this post by Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)

On 3/22/2011 6:37 AM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data Analysis Software" at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update includes complete data for 2010, the addition of number of blogs for each software, more coverage of Statistica, and, where possible, measures regarding the implementations of the SAS Language: Carolina and the World Programming System (WPS).
>

I don't doubt that R may be the "most popular" in terms of discussion
group traffic, but you should be aware that the traffic for SAS
comprises two
separate lists that used to be mirrored, but are no longer linked
Usenet -- news://comp.soft-sys.sas (what you counted)
listserve -- "SAS-L" http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/sas-l.html

They were split sometime around the point where your graph shows a
downturn, and now comp.soft-sys.sas is considered the "dark-side" of
SAS-L. You know of the existence of SAS-L, but you haven't counted
that traffic, AFAICS.

-Michael

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Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

In reply to this post by Bruce Weaver

Hi Bruce, a couple of people asked me about that. I just clarified the text to say that although there are many other sources of discussion, I only collected data from the listservs. In the case of SPSS, it was SPSSX-L. That seemed like it had the greatest amount of discussion. Cheers, Bob

>-----Original Message-----
>From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>Bruce Weaver
>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:20 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated
>
>Hi Bob. It looks like the data for SPSS in graph 1 are for the usenet newsgroup
>(http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.stat.spss/topics).
>As someone who lurks in that newsgroup and on this mailing list, it seems to me
>that there is a fair bit more traffic on the mailing list these days.
>You can find archives for the mailing list in a couple places.
>
> http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/spssx-l.html
> http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/
>
>Cheers,
>Bruce
>
>
>
>Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data
>> Analysis Software" at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update
>> includes complete data for 2010, the addition of number of blogs for
>> each software, more coverage of Statistica, and, where possible,
>> measures regarding the implementations of the SAS Language: Carolina
>> and the World Programming System (WPS).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bob
>>
>> =========================================================
>> Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
>> Research Computing Support
>> Voice: (865) 974-5230
>> Email: [hidden email]
>> Web: http://oit.utk.edu/research,
>> News: http://oit.utk.edu/research/news.php
>> ========================================================
>>
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Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

In reply to this post by Larry Burriss

I didn't say it quite like that, but I did mention that the SPSS users I have worked with over the years have strongly preferred using its GUI. That's far less likely to generate questions than programming is. Even though other programs have GUIs, many, like SAS' cover only a small portion of its capability. The SPSS GUI is quite comprehensive. Cheers, Bob

>-----Original Message-----
>From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>Larry Burriss
>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:19 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated
>
>I don't recall if this was addressed in the article, but how much discussion is
>generated because a program is difficult to use, etc? I don't know that the
>amount of discussion is really related to popularity or use. People generally don't
>discuss the advantages and benefits of a program, but usually write to ask help
>solving a problem or to complain. Maybe the programs generating the most
>discussion are also the most difficult to use.
>
> / Larry /
>
>LARRY L. BURRISS, Ph.D., J.D.
>Professor
>School of Journalism
>Middle Tennessee State University
>Murfreesboro, TN 37132
>
>615-898-2983 [hidden email] http://mtsu.edu/~lburriss
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>Bruce Weaver
>Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 1:20 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated
>
>Hi Bob. It looks like the data for SPSS in graph 1 are for the usenet newsgroup
>(http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.stat.spss/topics).
>As someone who lurks in that newsgroup and on this mailing list, it seems to me
>that there is a fair bit more traffic on the mailing list these days.
>You can find archives for the mailing list in a couple places.
>
> http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/spssx-l.html
> http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/
>
>Cheers,
>Bruce
>
>
>
>Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data
>> Analysis Software" at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update
>> includes complete data for 2010, the addition of number of blogs for
>> each software, more coverage of Statistica, and, where possible,
>> measures regarding the implementations of the SAS Language: Carolina
>> and the World Programming System (WPS).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bob
>>
>> =========================================================
>> Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
>> Research Computing Support
>> Voice: (865) 974-5230
>> Email: [hidden email]
>> Web: http://oit.utk.edu/research,
>> News: http://oit.utk.edu/research/news.php
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>
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Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)

Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated

In reply to this post by Michael Friendly

Hi Michael,

A few people wrote me making that point. Figure 1 in http://r4stats.com/popularity showed only listserv traffic. By discussing news groups I think I just confused people about which data actually made it into that graph. I've tweaked the text and figure caption to clarify that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Cheers,
Bob

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Friendly [mailto:[hidden email]]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:37 PM
>To: Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
>Cc: sas-l ([hidden email]); SPSSX-L ([hidden email]); "r-
>help "@YorkU.CA
>Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, Statistica, S-PLUS updated
>
>On 3/22/2011 6:37 AM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I've just put out the latest version of "The Popularity of Data Analysis Software"
>at http://r4stats.com/popularity. This update includes complete data for 2010,
>the addition of number of blogs for each software, more coverage of Statistica,
>and, where possible, measures regarding the implementations of the SAS
>Language: Carolina and the World Programming System (WPS).
>>
>
>I don't doubt that R may be the "most popular" in terms of discussion group
>traffic, but you should be aware that the traffic for SAS comprises two separate
>lists that used to be mirrored, but are no longer linked Usenet --
>news://comp.soft-sys.sas (what you counted) listserve -- "SAS-L"
>http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/sas-l.html
>
>They were split sometime around the point where your graph shows a downturn,
>and now comp.soft-sys.sas is considered the "dark-side" of SAS-L. You know of
>the existence of SAS-L, but you haven't counted that traffic, AFAICS.
>
>-Michael
>
>--
>Michael Friendly Email: friendly AT yorku DOT ca
>Professor, Psychology Dept.
>York University Voice: 416 736-5115 x66249 Fax: 416 736-5814
>4700 Keele Street Web: http://www.datavis.ca
>Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
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