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Staffan Lindberg

Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Dear list

Just got a bunch of SPSS21 syntax files which I cannot read with SPSS19. Is there any way around this?

best

Staffan Lindberg

Sweden

John F Hall

Re: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Is there an error or warning message pointing to a command or specification? If so, check the CSR from Help > CSR to see when that command was added or last modified.

I think you need to send some examples of the syntax so we can see what you’re trying to do: most basic syntax is stable across most versions, even from 11 onwards.

Depending on what you’re trying to do, you can always send me (an extract from) one of the *.sps files as an attachment. If it’s only basic, I can probably help, otherwise you’ll have to wait for Albert-Jan (Holland) and others in Europe. Later on the specialts from over the pond will surely be able to help (Jon, David, Bruce et al)

John F Hall (Mr)

[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email: [hidden email]

Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com

SPSS start page: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Staffan Lindberg
Sent: 20 January 2014 08:16
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Subject: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Dear list

Just got a bunch of SPSS21 syntax files which I cannot read with SPSS19. Is there any way around this?

best

Staffan Lindberg

Sweden

Staffan Lindberg

SV: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19? More hassle!

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Thanks John!

I’m afraid I’ve made things worse. Before I got your reply I noticed in the control panel that SPSS21 had been installed (after I tried to save some syntax files from SPSS21 via e-mail). However, when I tried to execute this SPSS21 this naturally fails as I do not have this version. After this I uninstalled this uncomplete version of SPSS21. Then when I try to execute my SPSS19, I got a new Window (never seen before) with the name “Server login Local computer” with the Local Computer tickmarked and the alternatives ADD, Search, OK, Cancel and Help. Whatever I try I cannot start my SPSS19 again. If I click ADD it wants to know the server name and suggests and suggests port number 3019. Small catastrophy! How can I access my SPSS19 again?

best

Staffan Lindberg

Sweden

Från: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]]
Skickat: den 20 januari 2014 08:28
Till: 'Staffan Lindberg'; [hidden email]
Ämne: RE: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Is there an error or warning message pointing to a command or specification? If so, check the CSR from Help > CSR to see when that command was added or last modified.

I think you need to send some examples of the syntax so we can see what you’re trying to do: most basic syntax is stable across most versions, even from 11 onwards.

John F Hall (Mr)

[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email: [hidden email]

Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com

SPSS start page: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Staffan Lindberg
Sent: 20 January 2014 08:16
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Subject: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Dear list

Just got a bunch of SPSS21 syntax files which I cannot read with SPSS19. Is there any way around this?

best

Staffan Lindberg

Sweden

Albert-Jan Roskam

Re: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

In reply to this post by John F Hall

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>I think you need to send some examples of the syntax so we can see what you’re trying to do: most basic syntax is stable across most versions, even from 11 onwards.

Hi,

When you say "cannot read" what exactly do you mean? You get some syntax errors? Maybe related to STAR JOIN (or was that introduced in v22?). Or can't you open the syntax file? Are the syntax files of a "normal" size? If they are megabytes, they might be misnamed e.g. .sav files.

What do you see if you open them in e.g Notepad? If the first chars are ï»¿ and the rest is fairly normal, the file is encoded in utf-8 and the first weird chars is a BOM (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLDvtpSC_98 for an excellend discussion of a BOM ;-). To read the file in utf-8 you can (1) use SET UNICODE = ON (this setting will stay this way until you change it), then open the syntax via the GUI or (2) INSERT the file with /ENCODING=UTF8.

But without the error message, it's just speculation. ;-)

Albert-Jan

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Albert-Jan Roskam

Re: SV: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19? More hassle!

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yikes! And what happens if you use "localhost" as the server name?

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From: Staffan Lindberg <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: [SPSSX-L] SV: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19? More hassle!

Thanks John!

I’m afraid I’ve made things worse. Before I got your reply I noticed in the control panel that SPSS21 had been installed (after I tried to save some syntax files from SPSS21 via e-mail). However, when I tried to execute this SPSS21 this naturally fails as I do not have this version. After this I uninstalled this uncomplete version of SPSS21. Then when I try to execute my SPSS19, I got a new Window (never seen before) with the name “Server login Local computer” with the Local Computer tickmarked and the alternatives ADD, Search, OK, Cancel and Help. Whatever I try I cannot start my SPSS19 again. If I click ADD it wants to know the server name and suggests and suggests port number 3019. Small catastrophy! How can I access my SPSS19 again?

best

Staffan Lindberg
Sweden

Från: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]]
Skickat: den 20 januari 2014 08:28
Till: 'Staffan Lindberg'; [hidden email]
Ämne: RE: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Is there an error or warning message pointing to a command or specification? If so, check the CSR from Help > CSR to see when that command was added or last modified.

I think you need to send some examples of the syntax so we can see what you’re trying to do: most basic syntax is stable across most versions, even from 11 onwards.

Depending on what you’re trying to do, you can always send me (an extract from) one of the *.sps files as an attachment. If it’s only basic, I can probably help, otherwise you’ll have to wait for Albert-Jan (Holland) and others in Europe. Later on the specialts from over the pond will surely be able to help (Jon, David, Bruce et al)

John F Hall (Mr)
[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email: [hidden email]
Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com
SPSS start page: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Staffan Lindberg
Sent: 20 January 2014 08:16
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Dear list

Just got a bunch of SPSS21 syntax files which I cannot read with SPSS19. Is there any way around this?

best

Staffan Lindberg
Sweden

John F Hall

Re: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

In reply to this post by Staffan Lindberg

Staffan

Listers don’t like the subject being changed as they can’t always keep track of the thread, so I’ve changed it back. Sorry I can’t help on this: too technical for me. I see Albert-Jan has replied; if he can’t help you’ll have to wait for the USA and Canada to wake up.

John

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Staffan Lindberg
Sent: 20 January 2014 10:45
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Subject: SV: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19? More hassle!

Thanks John!

best

Staffan Lindberg

Sweden

Från: John F Hall [[hidden email]]
Skickat: den 20 januari 2014 08:28
Till: 'Staffan Lindberg'; [hidden email]
Ämne: RE: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Is there an error or warning message pointing to a command or specification? If so, check the CSR from Help > CSR to see when that command was added or last modified.

I think you need to send some examples of the syntax so we can see what you’re trying to do: most basic syntax is stable across most versions, even from 11 onwards.

John F Hall (Mr)

[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email: [hidden email]

Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com

SPSS start page: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Staffan Lindberg
Sent: 20 January 2014 08:16
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Dear list

Just got a bunch of SPSS21 syntax files which I cannot read with SPSS19. Is there any way around this?

best

Staffan Lindberg

Sweden

Staffan Lindberg

SV: [SPSSX-L] SV: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19? More hassle!

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Thanks Albert-Jan!

I get the error message: Attempt to connect to a remote server failed inet Localhost 3019

Then I am prompted for:

Server Name:

Port Number:

User ID:

Password:

Domain:

best

Staffan

Från: Albert-Jan Roskam [mailto:[hidden email]]
Skickat: den 20 januari 2014 11:20
Till: Staffan Lindberg; [hidden email]
Ämne: Re: [SPSSX-L] SV: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19? More hassle!

yikes! And what happens if you use "localhost" as the server name?

Regards,

Albert-Jan

From: Staffan Lindberg <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: [SPSSX-L] SV: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19? More hassle!

Thanks John!

I’m afraid I’ve made things worse. Before I got your reply I noticed in the control panel that SPSS21 had been installed (after I tried to save some syntax files from SPSS21 via e-mail). However, when I tried to execute this SPSS21 this naturally fails as I do not have this version. After this I uninstalled this uncomplete version of SPSS21. Then when I try to execute my SPSS19, I got a new Window (never seen before) with the name “Server login Local computer” with the Local Computer tickmarked and the alternatives ADD, Search, OK, Cancel and Help. Whatever I try I cannot start my SPSS19 again. If I click ADD it wants to know the server name and suggests and suggests port number 3019. Small catastrophy! How can I access my SPSS19 again?

best

Staffan Lindberg
Sweden

Från: John F Hall [[hidden email]]
Skickat: den 20 januari 2014 08:28
Till: 'Staffan Lindberg'; [hidden email]
Ämne: RE: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Is there an error or warning message pointing to a command or specification? If so, check the CSR from Help > CSR to see when that command was added or last modified.

I think you need to send some examples of the syntax so we can see what you’re trying to do: most basic syntax is stable across most versions, even from 11 onwards.

Depending on what you’re trying to do, you can always send me (an extract from) one of the *.sps files as an attachment. If it’s only basic, I can probably help, otherwise you’ll have to wait for Albert-Jan (Holland) and others in Europe. Later on the specialts from over the pond will surely be able to help (Jon, David, Bruce et al)

John F Hall (Mr)
[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email: [hidden email]
Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com
SPSS start page: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Staffan Lindberg
Sent: 20 January 2014 08:16
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

Dear list

Just got a bunch of SPSS21 syntax files which I cannot read with SPSS19. Is there any way around this?

best

Staffan Lindberg
Sweden

Jon K Peck

Re: Reading SPSS21 syntax files from SPSS19?

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Syntax files are just text. Even Notepad can read them. The only difference might be that the files created in V21 might be encoded in Unicode (utf-8). V19 can read Unicode files, but you might need to set Unicode on if the text appears to be garbled. What do the files look like when you open them?

Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
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Dear list

Just got a bunch of SPSS21 syntax files which I cannot read with SPSS19. Is there any way around this?

best

Staffan Lindberg
Sweden