SPSS Subroutines

[Kunal]

Does anyone please suggest how to write subroutines here in SPSS so we can use them again and again for Single Punch,Multi Punch and Grid.

Thanks in advance.

[Bruce Weaver]

I don't know what Single Punch, Multi Punch and Grid are referring to.  (Are you using some old version of SPSS that reads punch cards, perhaps?)  

Anyway, two possibilities come to mind:  Macros and inserted syntax files (via INSERT command).  See the links below for more info.

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/syn_define.htm

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/syn_insert_vs_include.htm

Other list members will probably suggest Python.

HTH.

Kunal wrote

Does anyone please suggest how to write subroutines here in SPSS so we can use them again and again for Single Punch,Multi Punch and Grid.

Thanks in advance.

[Mike]

Bruce is correct in saying that the phrases "Single punch", Multipunch,
and Grid refer to old punched card input.  Our John Hall provides
a description of these terms in a 2006 paper he presented at the
ASSESS SPSS User group meeting; the word document should be
accessible here:
www.spssusers.co.uk/Events/2006/hall2006.doc

I do not, however, understand the original request -- it did not show
up on the SPSS list but Bruce's response did -- because as far as
I can tell, the only place that one use these terms explicitly is in the
File Handle command; see:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/syn_file_handle.htm

If one has the old "White SPSS manual" (SPSS release 4.00),
the info is on page 197, and in "Appendix D. Computer Cards".

One has to ask:  are you still using actual punched cards or an
electronic representation of such cards?  Have you been given
boxes and boxes and boxes of old Hollereth cards and now have
to convert them into electronic format before they become dust
(or food for insects)?

John Hall probably is the person to ask about initial dealing
with inputing the data (which is all the file handle would be used
for).  Once they're in, you don't have to be concerned with these
issues (unless you're doing all you work on an IBM 360 era or
compatible mainframe).

-Mike Palij
New York University
[hidden email]



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Weaver" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: SPSS Subroutines

>I don't know what Single Punch, Multi Punch and Grid are referring to.
>(Are
> you using some old version of SPSS that reads punch cards, perhaps?)
>
> Anyway, two possibilities come to mind:  Macros and inserted syntax
> files
> (via INSERT command).  See the links below for more info.
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/syn_define.htm
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/syn_insert_vs_include.htm
>
> Other list members will probably suggest Python.
>
> HTH.
>
>
>
> Kunal wrote
>> Does anyone please suggest how to write subroutines here in SPSS so
>> we can
>> use them again and again for Single Punch,Multi Punch and Grid.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> --
> Bruce Weaver
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>
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[Jon K Peck]

Multiple response data is still sometimes coded in the old multipunch style, regardless of the fact that punchcards are now only made by elves living in caves in the far north.

However, the phrasing of the question makes me wonder whether the O.P is referring to the Data Collection software rather than SPSS Statistics or Modeler.


Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim
Senior Software Engineer, IBM
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phone: [phone]




From:        Mike Palij <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email]
Date:        09/14/2015 05:49 PM
Subject:        Re: [SPSSX-L] SPSS Subroutines
Sent by:        "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>

---

Bruce is correct in saying that the phrases "Single punch", Multipunch,
and Grid refer to old punched card input.  Our John Hall provides
a description of these terms in a 2006 paper he presented at the
ASSESS SPSS User group meeting; the word document should be
accessible here:
www.spssusers.co.uk/Events/2006/hall2006.doc

I do not, however, understand the original request -- it did not show
up on the SPSS list but Bruce's response did -- because as far as
I can tell, the only place that one use these terms explicitly is in the
File Handle command; see:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/syn_file_handle.htm

If one has the old "White SPSS manual" (SPSS release 4.00),
the info is on page 197, and in "Appendix D. Computer Cards".

One has to ask:  are you still using actual punched cards or an
electronic representation of such cards?  Have you been given
boxes and boxes and boxes of old Hollereth cards and now have
to convert them into electronic format before they become dust
(or food for insects)?

John Hall probably is the person to ask about initial dealing
with inputing the data (which is all the file handle would be used
for).  Once they're in, you don't have to be concerned with these
issues (unless you're doing all you work on an IBM 360 era or
compatible mainframe).

-Mike Palij
New York University
[hidden email]



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Weaver" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: SPSS Subroutines

>I don't know what Single Punch, Multi Punch and Grid are referring to.
>(Are
> you using some old version of SPSS that reads punch cards, perhaps?)
>
> Anyway, two possibilities come to mind:  Macros and inserted syntax
> files
> (via INSERT command).  See the links below for more info.
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/syn_define.htm
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/syn_insert_vs_include.htm
>
> Other list members will probably suggest Python.
>
> HTH.
>
>
>
> Kunal wrote
>> Does anyone please suggest how to write subroutines here in SPSS so
>> we can
>> use them again and again for Single Punch,Multi Punch and Grid.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> --
> Bruce Weaver
> [hidden email]
> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
>
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
>
> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
>
> --
> View this message in context:
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[John F Hall]

Mike

Thanks for the plug on my 2006 paper to ASSESS.  There's more information on
my page:
http://surveyresearch.weebly.com/old-dog-old-tricks-using-spss-syntax-to-bea
t-the-mouse-trap.html  including the accompanying slide-shows.  Multiple
response is dealt with in several places (with examples from major surveys).

The paper you refer to is also accessible as a pdf file on my site as:
http://surveyresearch.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/9/8/2998485/old_dog_old_tricks_
main_paper.pdf

There's also a set of Multiple Response tutorials on page:
http://surveyresearch.weebly.com/33-multiple-response-mult-response.html
. . which reminds me I still have some to write!

Like you and Bruce, I'm not quite sure what Kunal means by sub-routines.
Many years ago, when I was still working, I used to keep frequently used
MULT RESP definitions in a separate file (or as duplicate card sets) for
repeated use.  I do the same now, and it's a lot easier and quicker with the
Windows version.  From version 11 to 23 I have never used the GUI to define
MR sets, preferring fuddy duddy syntax, especially when using tricks of the
trade.

John F Hall (Mr)
[Retired academic survey researcher]

Email:   [hidden email]  
Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com  
SPSS start page:  www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop






 






-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Mike Palij
Sent: 15 September 2015 01:48
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: SPSS Subroutines

Bruce is correct in saying that the phrases "Single punch", Multipunch, and
Grid refer to old punched card input.  Our John Hall provides a description
of these terms in a 2006 paper he presented at the ASSESS SPSS User group
meeting; the word document should be accessible here:
www.spssusers.co.uk/Events/2006/hall2006.doc

I do not, however, understand the original request -- it did not show up on
the SPSS list but Bruce's response did -- because as far as I can tell, the
only place that one use these terms explicitly is in the File Handle
command; see:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.sta
tistics.help/syn_file_handle.htm

If one has the old "White SPSS manual" (SPSS release 4.00), the info is on
page 197, and in "Appendix D. Computer Cards".

One has to ask:  are you still using actual punched cards or an electronic
representation of such cards?  Have you been given boxes and boxes and boxes
of old Hollereth cards and now have to convert them into electronic format
before they become dust (or food for insects)?

John Hall probably is the person to ask about initial dealing with inputing
the data (which is all the file handle would be used for).  Once they're in,
you don't have to be concerned with these issues (unless you're doing all
you work on an IBM 360 era or compatible mainframe).

-Mike Palij
New York University
[hidden email]



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Weaver" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: SPSS Subroutines


>I don't know what Single Punch, Multi Punch and Grid are referring to.
>(Are
> you using some old version of SPSS that reads punch cards, perhaps?)
>
> Anyway, two possibilities come to mind:  Macros and inserted syntax
> files
> (via INSERT command).  See the links below for more info.
>
>
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.sta
tistics.help/syn_define.htm
>
>
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLVMB_21.0.0/com.ibm.spss.sta
tistics.help/syn_insert_vs_include.htm

>
> Other list members will probably suggest Python.
>
> HTH.
>
>
>
> Kunal wrote
>> Does anyone please suggest how to write subroutines here in SPSS so
>> we can
>> use them again and again for Single Punch,Multi Punch and Grid.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> --
> Bruce Weaver
> [hidden email]
> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
>
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
>
> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
>
> --
> View this message in context:
>

http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/SPSS-Subroutines-tp5730607p573
0608.html

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