[SPSS] out-of-office replies and posting

[Shanti Ganesh]

Dear all,

after joining this list a few days ago and posting 1 message, I received
many out-of-office replies from subscribers to this list. These were send
directly to my email address, not to the list address.

Would it be possible to exclude postings from this list from your out-of-
office replies? You can do that by only sending out these automatic out-of-
office replies to emails directly sent to you only.

Also, perhaps it is an idea to include [SPSS] in all the subject headers
of posted messages, making it easier to automatically forward messages
from this list and replies to postings to a designated folder.

That would all be very helpful. Comments are welcome. Thanks!

Shanti

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[Bruce Weaver]

Shanti Ganesh wrote

Dear all,

after joining this list a few days ago and posting 1 message, I received
many out-of-office replies from subscribers to this list. These were send
directly to my email address, not to the list address.

Would it be possible to exclude postings from this list from your out-of-
office replies? You can do that by only sending out these automatic out-of-
office replies to emails directly sent to you only.

Also, perhaps it is an idea to include [SPSS] in all the subject headers
of posted messages, making it easier to automatically forward messages
from this list and replies to postings to a designated folder.

That would all be very helpful. Comments are welcome. Thanks!

Shanti

I too find all of the out-of-office messages very annoying.  While on the face of it Shanti's idea of including [SPSS], or perhaps [SPSSX-L] in the subject line of all posts might help in filtering out unwanted messages, the problem is that it relies on people remembering to include something in the subject line, and to get it right.  The problem is that these same people forget (or don't bother) to unsubscribe from the list when going on vacation, which is why we get all those annoying messages.  ;-)  

Another solution would be for members of this list to move over to the comp.soft-sys.stat.spss newsgroup, which can be read via most news servers, and via Google Groups (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.stat.spss/topics).  Personally, I prefer the newsgroup format over the mailing list, which is why I read this list via www.nabble.com.  But I know that others prefer receiving the messages via e-mail.  If one subscribes to comp.soft-sys.stat.spss via Google Groups, one can choose how to read the group--i.e., via some type of e-mail, or online in a web browser.  I'm not entirely sure, but I think the mailing list and newsgroup may have been joined at one point, much like the ED-STAT mailing list and sci.stat.edu.  Perhaps Art Kendall knows about that.  

Cheers,
Bruce

[Julie Rao]

One can generally find something unique about the sender or the to in most list services to use as a filter to automatically move messages to a designated folder.  For example, I currently have anything that has SPSSX in the To field moved to separate folder on my inbox.  I do not believe it is necessary to ask posters to include anything special in the subject line. 

Bruce Weaver wrote:

Shanti Ganesh wrote:
  

Dear all,

after joining this list a few days ago and posting 1 message, I received
many out-of-office replies from subscribers to this list. These were send
directly to my email address, not to the list address.

Would it be possible to exclude postings from this list from your out-of-
office replies? You can do that by only sending out these automatic
out-of-
office replies to emails directly sent to you only.

Also, perhaps it is an idea to include [SPSS] in all the subject headers
of posted messages, making it easier to automatically forward messages
from this list and replies to postings to a designated folder.

That would all be very helpful. Comments are welcome. Thanks!

Shanti


    

I too find all of the out-of-office messages very annoying.  While on the
face of it Shanti's idea of including [SPSS], or perhaps [SPSSX-L] in the
subject line of all posts might help in filtering out unwanted messages, the
problem is that it relies on people remembering to include something in the
subject line, and to get it right.  The problem is that these same people
forget (or don't bother) to unsubscribe from the list when going on
vacation, which is why we get all those annoying messages.  ;-)

Another solution would be for members of this list to move over to the
comp.soft-sys.stat.spss newsgroup, which can be read via most news servers,
and via Google Groups
(http://groups.google.com/group/comp.soft-sys.stat.spss/topics).
Personally, I prefer the newsgroup format over the mailing list, which is
why I read this list via www.nabble.com.  But I know that others prefer
receiving the messages via e-mail.  If one subscribes to
comp.soft-sys.stat.spss via Google Groups, one can choose how to read the
group--i.e., via some type of e-mail, or online in a web browser.  I'm not
entirely sure, but I think the mailing list and newsgroup may have been
joined at one point, much like the ED-STAT mailing list and sci.stat.edu.
Perhaps Art Kendall knows about that.

Cheers,
Bruce



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[Daniel Robertson]

Note that when subscribing to this list, you can request the list name
to appear in the subject header by adding SUBJ to the request line. If
already subscribed, sending an email with

SET SPSSX-L SUBJ

in the body to [hidden email] will change your settings to
include the list name in the subject. This is quite helpful for routing
list messages to a particular folder and for routing "out-of-office"
messages from the list to a junk folder.

Dan R


Shanti Ganesh wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> after joining this list a few days ago and posting 1 message, I received
> many out-of-office replies from subscribers to this list. These were send
> directly to my email address, not to the list address.
>
> Would it be possible to exclude postings from this list from your out-of-
> office replies? You can do that by only sending out these automatic out-of-
> office replies to emails directly sent to you only.
>
> Also, perhaps it is an idea to include [SPSS] in all the subject headers
> of posted messages, making it easier to automatically forward messages
> from this list and replies to postings to a designated folder.
>
> That would all be very helpful. Comments are welcome. Thanks!
>
> Shanti
>
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[Shanti Ganesh]

Dear all, problem solved by

> sending an email with
>
>SET SPSSX-L SUBJ
>
>in the body to [hidden email]...

which automatically includes the list name in the subject.

Thanks!!

Shanti

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[Bruce Weaver]

Julie Rao wrote

One can generally find something unique about the sender or the to in
most list services to use as a filter to automatically move messages to
a designated folder.  For example, I currently have anything that has
SPSSX in the To field moved to separate folder on my inbox.  I do not
believe it is necessary to ask posters to include anything special in
the subject line.

When I "show original" in Google mail and search for SPSSX, I find nothing.  Apparently, these vacation messages are coming directly to my e-mail, not to the SPSSX-L list.  It may be different for folks who are reading the list via e-mail rather than via www.nabble.com, but I can't speak to that.

[mpirritano]

I used graph instead.

I'd still like to know if it's possible to do this in gpl and how to do
it, as well as a good gpl reference.

Thanks
matt

Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D.
Research Analyst IV
Medical Services Initiative (MSI)
Orange County Health Care Agency
[phone]

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[Swank, Paul R]

Yes, they come directly to your e-mail. I have been screening my messages for some time so all the spssx messages go to a folder. However, the out of office messages stack up in my inbox. I am sure I will get 12 to 20 out of office emails from this post. Funny that this is the only list I belong to that generates such out of office messages.

Dr. Paul R. Swank,
Professor and Director of Research
Children's Learning Institute
University of Texas Health Science Center-Houston


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From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bruce Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [SPSS] out-of-office replies and posting

Julie Rao wrote:
>
> One can generally find something unique about the sender or the to in
> most list services to use as a filter to automatically move messages to
> a designated folder.  For example, I currently have anything that has
> SPSSX in the To field moved to separate folder on my inbox.  I do not
> believe it is necessary to ask posters to include anything special in
> the subject line.
>
>

When I "show original" in Google mail and search for SPSSX, I find nothing.
Apparently, these vacation messages are coming directly to my e-mail, not to
the SPSSX-L list.  It may be different for folks who are reading the list
via e-mail rather than via www.nabble.com, but I can't speak to that.



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[Marta Garcia-Granero]

Swank, Paul R wrote:

> Yes, they come directly to your e-mail. I have been screening my messages for some time so all the spssx messages go to a folder. However, the out of office messages stack up in my inbox. I am sure I will get 12 to 20 out of office emails from this post. Funny that this is the only list I belong to that generates such out of office messages.

That is so because other lists have among their rules one concerning the
out-office messages: they ask listers to suspend the receipt of messages
from the list if they have activated out of office messages.

I normally do so...

Perhaps it would be a good idea to make it mandatory: switch to NOMAIL
or DIGEST modes when setting an out of office message.

To deal with the problem I have set an out of office filter (very easy
to do with Thunderbird) that sends directly to the trash any message
with the following words in the subject line or body of the message:

Out of office
out of office
Out of Office
out of the office
Autoreplay
Abwesenheitsnotiz
Autoodpowiedz'
Dear sender
...

It takes a bit of time to set a satisfactory filter (some people are
obnoxious enough to set an out of office message that simply replies to
your message with "Re:"+original subject, those are more difficult to
catch), but right now over 90% of those annoying messages go directly to
the trash.

HTH,
Marta GG

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[Muir Houston-2]

I have the same experience as Bruce - I have my email set up so that all post from the list goes to a separate folder - however, as soon as I post a message to the list, the out of office replies do not get sent to the designated folder but come straight to my inbox - and generally there are a considerable number

 

I also remember getting told that using the out of office reply may also increase the amount of spam due to it indicating a valid live email address.

 

Dr Muir Houston

Lecturer

DACE

Faculty of Education

University of Glasgow

0141-330-4699

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From: SPSSX(r) Discussion on behalf of Bruce Weaver
Sent: Tue 11/08/2009 16:06
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SPSS] out-of-office replies and posting

Julie Rao wrote:
>
> One can generally find something unique about the sender or the to in
> most list services to use as a filter to automatically move messages to
> a designated folder.  For example, I currently have anything that has
> SPSSX in the To field moved to separate folder on my inbox.  I do not
> believe it is necessary to ask posters to include anything special in
> the subject line.
>
>

When I "show original" in Google mail and search for SPSSX, I find nothing.
Apparently, these vacation messages are coming directly to my e-mail, not to
the SPSSX-L list.  It may be different for folks who are reading the list
via e-mail rather than via www.nabble.com, but I can't speak to that.



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[Bruce Weaver]

Marta García-Granero-3 wrote

Swank, Paul R wrote:

> Yes, they come directly to your e-mail. I have been screening my messages for some time so all the spssx messages go to a folder. However, the out of office messages stack up in my inbox. I am sure I will get 12 to 20 out of office emails from this post. Funny that this is the only list I belong to that generates such out of office messages.

That is so because other lists have among their rules one concerning the
out-office messages: they ask listers to suspend the receipt of messages
from the list if they have activated out of office messages.

I normally do so...

Perhaps it would be a good idea to make it mandatory: switch to NOMAIL
or DIGEST modes when setting an out of office message.

To deal with the problem I have set an out of office filter (very easy
to do with Thunderbird) that sends directly to the trash any message
with the following words in the subject line or body of the message:

Out of office
out of office
Out of Office
out of the office
Autoreplay
Abwesenheitsnotiz
Autoodpowiedz'
Dear sender
...

It takes a bit of time to set a satisfactory filter (some people are
obnoxious enough to set an out of office message that simply replies to
your message with "Re:"+original subject, those are more difficult to
catch), but right now over 90% of those annoying messages go directly to
the trash.

HTH,
Marta GG

The only fly in Marta's filter ointment is that SOME vacation messages (e.g., from colleagues one works with) are useful, and so should not be redirected to the trash.  

The best solution, I think, would be for everyone to switch to NOMAIL or DIGEST when turning on their vacation message.  But as noted before, this only works if folks remember to do it.  ;-)

[Bruce Weaver]

Bruce Weaver wrote

Marta García-Granero-3 wrote

To deal with the problem I have set an out of office filter (very easy
to do with Thunderbird) that sends directly to the trash any message
with the following words in the subject line or body of the message:

Out of office
out of office
Out of Office
out of the office
Autoreplay
Abwesenheitsnotiz
Autoodpowiedz'
Dear sender
...

It takes a bit of time to set a satisfactory filter (some people are
obnoxious enough to set an out of office message that simply replies to
your message with "Re:"+original subject, those are more difficult to
catch), but right now over 90% of those annoying messages go directly to
the trash.

HTH,
Marta GG

The only fly in Marta's filter ointment is that SOME vacation messages (e.g., from colleagues one works with) are useful, and so should not be redirected to the trash.  

The best solution, I think, would be for everyone to switch to NOMAIL or DIGEST when turning on their vacation message.  But as noted before, this only works if folks remember to do it.  ;-)

It just occurred to me that for anyone who reads the list via www.nabble.com, using a different e-mail address for posting (i.e., not one's everyday e-mail) should solve the problem.  I'll give that a try and see how it works out.  

[Marta Garcia-Granero]

Bruce Weaver wrote:
>
> The only fly in Marta's filter ointment is that SOME vacation messages
> (e.g., from colleagues one works with) are useful, and so should not be
> redirected to the trash.
>
You can assign priority to each filter. I have a "SPSS list" filter that
is applied first place, then there's another that redirects all "@unav"
senders (the university where I work) to a special folder (that would
include the out of office messages from my colleagues), then the
"out-of-office", .... BTW, since many questions coming from Nabble used
to come at first from students looking for someone to do their homework
(something i dislike alot, being a teacher myself), I used to have a
filter that separated the Nabble messages from the rest (they went to
the trash... embarrassed tiny smile), but now I have eliminated it,
since you use Nabble, and your messages are well worth reading...
("errare humanum est, sed perseverare diabolicum": to err is human, but
to persist is diabolical).
> The best solution, I think, would be for everyone to switch to NOMAIL or
> DIGEST when turning on their vacation message.  But as noted before, this
> only works if folks remember to do it.  ;-)
>
That would certainly be the BEST.

Best regards,
Marta GG


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