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I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does
anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information in them, like coding. Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for Dummy's book... Donna ********************************************************** Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN Primary Care Nurse Practitioner Winnipeg, Manitoba http://www.NPCanada.ca [hidden email] ********************************************************** ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi,
If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting. Best of luck, Leah On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > in them, like coding. > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > Dummy's book... > > Donna > > > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > -- Leah Quinlivan ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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With all the respect, please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous.
Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of leah quinlivan Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? Hi, If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting. Best of luck, Leah On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > in them, like coding. > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > Dummy's book... > > Donna > > > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > -- Leah Quinlivan ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD NOTICE: This e-mail (and any attachments) may contain PRIVILEGED OR CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential under state and federal law. This information may be used or disclosed only in accordance with law, and you may be subject to penalties under law for improper use or further disclosure of the information in this e-mail and its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the person named above by reply e-mail, and then delete the original e-mail. Thank you. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi Donna,
SPSS normally installs quite a few sample data files in the SPSS program directory (something like c:\Program Files\SPSS\) -- this is often the directory that SPSS starts at when you select File -> Open -> Data.... SPSS data files have an .sav extension (files with an .sps extension are not SPSS data files but SPSS syntax files). If you get bored with the sample files, sites like UCLA's Statistical Computing center often post the sample files they use in training, e.g.: http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/spss/dae/ Hope this helps! Dan R. Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > in them, like coding. > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > Dummy's book... > > Donna > > > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > -- Daniel Robertson Senior Research and Planning Associate Institutional Research and Planning Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853-2801 607.255.9642 / irp.cornell.edu ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Thanks...I will take a look when I get home. I downloaded the software after
paying for it so it doesn't really come with a manual....just the help menu. I will take a look for .sav files. Thanks so much. Glad I'm on this list because i'm starting my doctorate and my learning curve is steep with respect to the software. The software appears so daunting but I suppose once I get going it will be ok. At least it doesn't look like the old SPSS sample program I had in the 1980's...it was DOS!!! Donna On 11/28/07, Daniel Robertson <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > SPSS normally installs quite a few sample data files in the SPSS program > directory (something like c:\Program Files\SPSS\) -- this is often the > directory that SPSS starts at when you select File -> Open -> Data.... > SPSS data files have an .sav extension (files with an .sps extension are > not SPSS data files but SPSS syntax files). > > If you get bored with the sample files, sites like UCLA's Statistical > Computing center often post the sample files they use in training, e.g.: > http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/spss/dae/ > > Hope this helps! > > Dan R. > > > Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. > Does > > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. > They > > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other > information > > in them, like coding. > > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > > Dummy's book... > > > > Donna > > > > > > ********************************************************** > > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > > Winnipeg, Manitoba > > http://www.NPCanada.ca > > [hidden email] > > ********************************************************** > > > > ===================== > > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > > command. To leave the list, send the command > > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > > INFO REFCARD > > > > > > -- > Daniel Robertson > Senior Research and Planning Associate > Institutional Research and Planning > Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853-2801 > 607.255.9642 / irp.cornell.edu > > -- ********************************************************** Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN, DNP-Student Primary Care Nurse Practitioner Doctor of Nursing Practice Student - Cleveland, OH Winnipeg, Manitoba http://www.NPCanada.ca [hidden email] ********************************************************** ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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If you're looking for introductory material, SPSS Help includes a
Tutorial and some other materials that may be useful. Another section of the UCLA site contains some simple self-study lessons and notes, including some movies. See http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/SPSS/sk/default.htm Raynauld's SPSS Tools (http://www.spsstools.net/) is a great resource, albeit somewhat more advanced, and there are certainly many more. Good luck! Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > Thanks...I will take a look when I get home. I downloaded the software after > paying for it so it doesn't really come with a manual....just the help menu. > I will take a look for .sav files. > > Thanks so much. Glad I'm on this list because i'm starting my doctorate and > my learning curve is steep with respect to the software. The > software appears so daunting but I suppose once I get going it will be ok. > At least it doesn't look like the old SPSS sample program I had in the > 1980's...it was DOS!!! > > Donna > > > On 11/28/07, Daniel Robertson <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi Donna, >> >> SPSS normally installs quite a few sample data files in the SPSS program >> directory (something like c:\Program Files\SPSS\) -- this is often the >> directory that SPSS starts at when you select File -> Open -> Data.... >> SPSS data files have an .sav extension (files with an .sps extension are >> not SPSS data files but SPSS syntax files). >> >> If you get bored with the sample files, sites like UCLA's Statistical >> Computing center often post the sample files they use in training, e.g.: >> http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/spss/dae/ >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> Dan R. >> >> >> Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: >> >>> I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. >>> >> Does >> >>> anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our >>> Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. >>> >> They >> >>> don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other >>> >> information >> >>> in them, like coding. >>> Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for >>> Dummy's book... >>> >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************** >>> Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN >>> Primary Care Nurse Practitioner >>> Winnipeg, Manitoba >>> http://www.NPCanada.ca >>> [hidden email] >>> ********************************************************** >>> >>> ===================== >>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >>> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >>> command. To leave the list, send the command >>> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >>> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >>> INFO REFCARD >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Daniel Robertson >> Senior Research and Planning Associate >> Institutional Research and Planning >> Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853-2801 >> 607.255.9642 / irp.cornell.edu >> >> >> > > > -- > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN, DNP-Student > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Doctor of Nursing Practice Student - Cleveland, OH > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > -- Daniel Robertson Senior Research and Planning Associate Institutional Research and Planning Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853-2801 607.255.9642 / irp.cornell.edu ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the title, but I'm always fascinated when a book evokes a harsh review. What was wrong with it?
"Ornelas, Fermin" <[hidden email]> wrote: With all the respect, please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous. Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of leah quinlivan Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? Hi, If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting. Best of luck, Leah On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > in them, like coding. > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > Dummy's book... > > Donna > > > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > -- Leah Quinlivan ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD NOTICE: This e-mail (and any attachments) may contain PRIVILEGED OR CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential under state and federal law. This information may be used or disclosed only in accordance with law, and you may be subject to penalties under law for improper use or further disclosure of the information in this e-mail and its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the person named above by reply e-mail, and then delete the original e-mail. Thank you. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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If you are using a version of SPSS prior to SPSS 16, you can find sample files in two locations:
1. The root of the installation directory (e.g., c:\program files\spss). 2. The tutorial\sample_files directory or the installation directory (e.g., c:\program files\spss\tutorial\sample_files. In SPSS 16, you can find sample files in the Samples directory of the installation directory. All of the sample files used in the tutorial (Help menu>Tutorial) and in the Case Studies (Help menu>Case Studies) are located in either tutorial\sample_files or Samples (depending on the version of SPSS). -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Donna Alden-Bugden Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:27 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information in them, like coding. Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for Dummy's book... Donna ********************************************************** Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN Primary Care Nurse Practitioner Winnipeg, Manitoba http://www.NPCanada.ca [hidden email] ********************************************************** ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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I did not want to start a discussion that could become a burden, brought by my own wording. But I was looking for something with SPSS syntax and good theoretical explanation. Instead the book just emphasizes the point and click approach. I went through a lot of problems to get it just to be disappointed. I was expecting something like Handbook for Statistical Analysis with SAS by Everitt, but no it was just a lot of verbiage on how to navigate the SPSS menu.
Hope this satisfies your question. Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Reeder Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:24 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the title, but I'm always fascinated when a book evokes a harsh review. What was wrong with it? "Ornelas, Fermin" <[hidden email]> wrote: With all the respect, please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous. Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of leah quinlivan Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? Hi, If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting. Best of luck, Leah On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > in them, like coding. > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > Dummy's book... > > Donna > > > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > -- Leah Quinlivan ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD NOTICE: This e-mail (and any attachments) may contain PRIVILEGED OR CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential under state and federal law. This information may be used or disclosed only in accordance with law, and you may be subject to penalties under law for improper use or further disclosure of the information in this e-mail and its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the person named above by reply e-mail, and then delete the original e-mail. Thank you. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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I have been teaching SPSS for a good number of years (too many to count) and have tried various texts. The only text that my students show a positive "bias" towards is Andy Field's Book. The book consistently gets good ratings from my students.
Martin F. Sherman, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Director of Masters Education: Thesis Track Loyola College Psychology Department 222 B Beatty Hall 4501 North Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21210 410 617-2417 (office) 410 617-5341 (fax) [hidden email] >>> Matthew Reeder <[hidden email]> 11/28/2007 3:24 PM >>> Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the title, but I'm always fascinated when a book evokes a harsh review. What was wrong with it? "Ornelas, Fermin" <[hidden email]> wrote: With all the respect, please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous. Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of leah quinlivan Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? Hi, If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting. Best of luck, Leah On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > in them, like coding. > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > Dummy's book... > > Donna > > > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > -- Leah Quinlivan ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD NOTICE: This e-mail (and any attachments) may contain PRIVILEGED OR CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential under state and federal law. This information may be used or disclosed only in accordance with law, and you may be subject to penalties under law for improper use or further disclosure of the information in this e-mail and its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the person named above by reply e-mail, and then delete the original e-mail. Thank you. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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No single book is going to satisfy the requirements of every user of SPSS
because people have widely varying backgrounds and needs. Fermin wanted something to transfer existing knowledge of SAS syntax to SPSS. So this was not the book for him. Some folks will find that with the exception of getting data into the shape required, a GUI will do just fine for them. Others will be looking for data analysis knowledge and basic statistical techniques--the data look this, the hypotheses are these, so what's the best way to test them and what to look for in the output. They will need books that are specifically related to those domains with sample syntax and discussions of domain-specific results. It's a shame that there aren't books like the Sage monographs for them. Others will be looking for cookbook recipes for various kinds of reports that just describe numerically and graphically the data. Although I haven't seen the book in question, if it is all Fermin says it is, then that really speaks poorly for the design of the user interface, dialogs, and accompanying help for them. Shame on me and all my fellow user interface designers :-( My recommendation is to talk to people who have the same kinds of jobs or research interests that you have and get their advice. -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ornelas, Fermin Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:41 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? I did not want to start a discussion that could become a burden, brought by my own wording. But I was looking for something with SPSS syntax and good theoretical explanation. Instead the book just emphasizes the point and click approach. I went through a lot of problems to get it just to be disappointed. I was expecting something like Handbook for Statistical Analysis with SAS by Everitt, but no it was just a lot of verbiage on how to navigate the SPSS menu. Hope this satisfies your question. Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Reeder Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:24 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the title, but I'm always fascinated when a book evokes a harsh review. What was wrong with it? "Ornelas, Fermin" <[hidden email]> wrote: With all the respect, please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous. Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of leah quinlivan Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? Hi, If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting. Best of luck, Leah On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > in them, like coding. > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > Dummy's book... > > Donna > > > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > -- Leah Quinlivan ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. 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Hi All,
This could indeed become a lengthy debate, but I would like to defend Andy Field's book brieflly. It's strength is that in addition to the point and click, it also describes almost all the output. Folks that are new to stats want that. There is a fear, at first, that you have to pay equal attention to every number in the output. This is just too much, if you already understand the underlying stats. If I were to learn SAS, I wouldn't want every stat explained. I can read SAS output quite well, and I don't use SAS at all. I would want the language explained. Field's book is almost the exact opposite of this. So ... I would recommend Fields book - highly even - for those that are new to stats, and new to SPSS, and that will, in time, be heavy users of stats. If some one just wants to survive a one semester course in Stats, there are better choices. If someone already knows stats, but not SPSS there are better choices as well. Although good novice syntax books seem hard to come by. I hope that helps clarify what and who Field's book is good for. Best, Keith www.keithmccormick.com On Nov 28, 2007 4:17 PM, ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]> wrote: > No single book is going to satisfy the requirements of every user of SPSS > because people have widely varying backgrounds and needs. Fermin wanted > something to transfer existing knowledge of SAS syntax to SPSS. So this was > not the book for him. > > Some folks will find that with the exception of getting data into the shape > required, a GUI will do just fine for them. Others will be looking for data > analysis knowledge and basic statistical techniques--the data look this, the > hypotheses are these, so what's the best way to test them and what to look > for in the output. They will need books that are specifically related to > those domains with sample syntax and discussions of domain-specific results. > It's a shame that there aren't books like the Sage monographs for them. > Others will be looking for cookbook recipes for various kinds of reports > that just describe numerically and graphically the data. > > Although I haven't seen the book in question, if it is all Fermin says it > is, then that really speaks poorly for the design of the user interface, > dialogs, and accompanying help for them. Shame on me and all my fellow user > interface designers :-( > > My recommendation is to talk to people who have the same kinds of jobs or > research interests that you have and get their advice. > > -----Original Message----- > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Ornelas, Fermin > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:41 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? > > I did not want to start a discussion that could become a burden, brought by > my own wording. But I was looking for something with SPSS syntax and good > theoretical explanation. Instead the book just emphasizes the point and > click approach. I went through a lot of problems to get it just to be > disappointed. I was expecting something like Handbook for Statistical > Analysis with SAS by Everitt, but no it was just a lot of verbiage on how to > navigate the SPSS menu. > > Hope this satisfies your question. > > > Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. > Management Analyst III, AZ DES > 1789 W. Jefferson Street > Phoenix, AZ 85032 > Tel: (602) 542-5639 > E-mail: [hidden email] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Matthew Reeder > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:24 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? > > Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the title, but I'm always fascinated when > a book evokes a harsh review. What was wrong with it? > > "Ornelas, Fermin" <[hidden email]> wrote: With all the respect, > please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous. > > Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. > Management Analyst III, AZ DES > 1789 W. Jefferson Street > Phoenix, AZ 85032 > Tel: (602) 542-5639 > E-mail: [hidden email] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > leah quinlivan > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? > > Hi, > > If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using > SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting. > > Best of luck, > > Leah > > > On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > > > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > > in them, like coding. > > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > > Dummy's book... > > > > Donna > > > > > > ********************************************************** > > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > > Winnipeg, Manitoba > > http://www.NPCanada.ca > > [hidden email] > > ********************************************************** > > > > ===================== > > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > > command. To leave the list, send the command > > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > > INFO REFCARD > > > > > > -- > Leah Quinlivan > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > NOTICE: This e-mail (and any attachments) may contain PRIVILEGED OR > CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific > individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is > privileged and confidential under state and federal law. This information > may be used or disclosed only in accordance with law, and you may be subject > to penalties under law for improper use or further disclosure of the > information in this e-mail and its attachments. If you have received this > e-mail in error, please immediately notify the person named above by reply > e-mail, and then delete the original e-mail. Thank you. > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. 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Thanks Daniel...these links are great!!!...I will bookmark them as they will
likely prove to be invaluable to me. Donna **************************************************************************** **** Donna L. Alden-Bugden, BScN, RN(EP), MN (ANP), DNP-Student NPCanada.ca - Promoting Nurse Practitioners in Canada Family Nurse Practitioner - Winnipeg, Manitoba Doctoral Student - Cleveland, Ohio [hidden email] Alternate E-mail: [hidden email] http://www.NPCanada.ca **************************************************************************** *** -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Robertson [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 2:14 PM To: Donna Alden-Bugden Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? If you're looking for introductory material, SPSS Help includes a Tutorial and some other materials that may be useful. Another section of the UCLA site contains some simple self-study lessons and notes, including some movies. See http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/SPSS/sk/default.htm Raynauld's SPSS Tools (http://www.spsstools.net/ ) is a great resource, albeit somewhat more advanced, and there are certainly many more. Good luck! Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > Thanks...I will take a look when I get home. I downloaded the software after > paying for it so it doesn't really come with a manual....just the help menu. > I will take a look for .sav files. > > Thanks so much. Glad I'm on this list because i'm starting my doctorate and > my learning curve is steep with respect to the software. The > software appears so daunting but I suppose once I get going it will be ok. > At least it doesn't look like the old SPSS sample program I had in the > 1980's...it was DOS!!! > > Donna > > > On 11/28/07, Daniel Robertson <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi Donna, >> >> SPSS normally installs quite a few sample data files in the SPSS program >> directory (something like c:\Program Files\SPSS\) -- this is often the >> directory that SPSS starts at when you select File -> Open -> Data.... >> SPSS data files have an .sav extension (files with an .sps extension are >> not SPSS data files but SPSS syntax files). >> >> If you get bored with the sample files, sites like UCLA's Statistical >> Computing center often post the sample files they use in training, e.g.: >> http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/spss/dae/ >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> Dan R. >> >> >> Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: >> >>> I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. >>> >> Does >> >>> anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our >>> Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. >>> >> They >> >>> don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other >>> >> information >> >>> in them, like coding. >>> Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for >>> Dummy's book... >>> >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************** >>> Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN >>> Primary Care Nurse Practitioner >>> Winnipeg, Manitoba >>> http://www.NPCanada.ca >>> [hidden email] >>> ********************************************************** >>> >>> ===================== >>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >>> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >>> command. To leave the list, send the command >>> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >>> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >>> INFO REFCARD >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Daniel Robertson >> Senior Research and Planning Associate >> Institutional Research and Planning >> Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853-2801 >> 607.255.9642 / irp.cornell.edu >> >> >> > > > -- > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN, DNP-Student > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Doctor of Nursing Practice Student - Cleveland, OH > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > [hidden email] > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > -- Daniel Robertson Senior Research and Planning Associate Institutional Research and Planning Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853-2801 607.255.9642 / irp.cornell.edu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.9/1158 - Release Date: 11/28/07 21:11 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.9/1158 - Release Date: 11/28/07 21:11 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Dear Fermin,
I am concerned that the list is receivign such a statement without, either Some reason WHY Or some reference to a negative review Please elucidate by provide further information Field is widely recommended to psychology students and researchers, and while I did have some reservations about the 1st ed, ³never recommend² seems ott. The jokey style is not to my taste but some like it I did not actually find any serious errors, although he may take a stand on cotnroversial issues without mentioning that they are contoversial Best diana On 28/11/07 18:53, "Ornelas, Fermin" <[hidden email]> wrote: > With all the respect, please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous. > > Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. > Management Analyst III, AZ DES > 1789 W. Jefferson Street > Phoenix, AZ 85032 > Tel: (602) 542-5639 > E-mail: [hidden email] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of leah > quinlivan > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them? > > Hi, > > If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using > SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting. > > Best of luck, > > Leah > > > On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > >> > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does >> > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our >> > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They >> > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information >> > in them, like coding. >> > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for >> > Dummy's book... >> > >> > Donna >> > >> > >> > ********************************************************** >> > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN >> > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner >> > Winnipeg, Manitoba >> > http://www.NPCanada.ca >> > [hidden email] >> > ********************************************************** >> > >> > ===================== >> > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >> > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >> > command. To leave the list, send the command >> > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L >> > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command >> > INFO REFCARD >> > > > > > -- > Leah Quinlivan > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > NOTICE: This e-mail (and any attachments) may contain PRIVILEGED OR > CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific > individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is > privileged and confidential under state and federal law. This information may > be used or disclosed only in accordance with law, and you may be subject to > penalties under law for improper use or further disclosure of the information > in this e-mail and its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please immediately notify the person named above by reply e-mail, and then > delete the original e-mail. Thank you. > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > Professor Diana Kornbrot email: [hidden email] web: http://web.mac.com/kornbrot/iweb/KornbrotHome.html Work School of Psychology University of Hertfordshire College Lane, Hatfield, Hertfordshire AL10 9AB, UK voice: +44 (0) 170 728 4626 fax +44 (0) 170 728 5073 Home 19 Elmhurst Avenue London N2 0LT, UK voice: +44 (0) 208 883 3657 fax: +44 (0) 870 706 4997 ====================To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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