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Moser, Gary-2

Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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John F Hall

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

try:

format <varlist> (f8.2) .

or whatever you need for decimal formats.

format varlist> (n) .

does it with leading zero for integers.

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Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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Oliver, Richard

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

In reply to this post by Moser, Gary-2

VARIABLE LEVEL command

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Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Thanks,

Gary

Moser, Gary-2

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

In reply to this post by John F Hall

Thanks for the reply, John. I don’t have a problem with formats, just level of measurement. I have a variable (Academic Term) which is regularly read in from .csv as f8.0, but shows as Nominal level of measurement. Odd.

Gary R. Moser

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From: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:02 AM
To: Moser, Gary; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

try:

format <varlist> (f8.2) .

or whatever you need for decimal formats.

format varlist> (n) .

does it with leading zero for integers.

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Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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Moser, Gary-2

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

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Perfect – thank you! I knew it had to be simple…and it was.

Gary R. Moser

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From: Oliver, Richard [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:02 AM
To: Moser, Gary; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL command

Hi List,

Thanks,

Gary

John F Hall

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

In reply to this post by Oliver, Richard

Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

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Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL command

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Moser, Gary
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:48 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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Oliver, Richard

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL was added in 1998 in SPSS 8.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:57 AM
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Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

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Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL command

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Moser, Gary
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:48 AM
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Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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Art Kendall

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

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no. It came out sometime in the last few years.

Art Kendall

John F Hall wrote:

Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

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VARIABLE LEVEL command

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Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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John F Hall

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

In reply to this post by Oliver, Richard

Richard

Thanks for this. I think it's worth sharing with other spss-ers.

John

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Your observations are correct. LIST is available only in syntax. You can also get case listings via Summarize, which is available in the UI via Analyze>Reports>Case Summaries.

File>Display Data File Information>Working File generates DISPLAY DICTIONARY syntax and does not provide a dialog to control the display parameters.

From: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: Oliver, Richard
Subject: Re: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Right between my retirement in 1992 and starting over with 11 for Windows in 2002. No wonder I missed it. Been checking out a few utilities for a new tutorial. I can do LIST in syntax, but is there a way of doing this using the menus? Also DISPLAY in menus only seems to have a single output, but a range in syntax. See attached draft.

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Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL was added in 1998 in SPSS 8.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:57 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

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Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL command

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Moser, Gary
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:48 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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Oliver, Richard

Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

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Well, last 11 years.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Art Kendall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

no. It came out sometime in the last few years.

Art Kendall

John F Hall wrote:

Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

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VARIABLE LEVEL command

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Moser, Gary
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:48 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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ViAnn Beadle

Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

In reply to this post by John F Hall

People use LIST in sample syntax on this listserv because the listserv doesn’t like to forward anything but plain text and LIST creates a simple text object. In real life, why would I use LIST? When I want to check my logic on transformations, I just look at the results of my transformations in the data editor. When I want to look at my filter logic, I still look at the data editor because it indicates with a slash whether the case is in the filter.

If the LIST enthusiast tried to explain what it does to a spreadsheet enthusiast, the spreadsheet enthusiast would think this is a very strange thing to do.

I await vigorous defenses of the use of LIST ;-)

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Richard

Thanks for this. I think it's worth sharing with other spss-ers.

John

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Subject: RE: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Your observations are correct. LIST is available only in syntax. You can also get case listings via Summarize, which is available in the UI via Analyze>Reports>Case Summaries.

File>Display Data File Information>Working File generates DISPLAY DICTIONARY syntax and does not provide a dialog to control the display parameters.

From: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: Oliver, Richard
Subject: Re: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Right between my retirement in 1992 and starting over with 11 for Windows in 2002. No wonder I missed it. Been checking out a few utilities for a new tutorial. I can do LIST in syntax, but is there a way of doing this using the menus? Also DISPLAY in menus only seems to have a single output, but a range in syntax. See attached draft.

----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:10 PM

Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL was added in 1998 in SPSS 8.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:57 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:02 PM

Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL command

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Moser, Gary
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:48 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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Antoon Smulders

Re: Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:13:49 -0600, ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>People use LIST in sample syntax on this listserv because the listserv
>doesn't like to forward anything but plain text and LIST creates a simple
>text object. In real life, why would I use LIST? When I want to check my
>logic on transformations, I just look at the results of my transformations
>in the data editor. When I want to look at my filter logic, I still look
at
>the data editor because it indicates with a slash whether the case is in
the

>filter.
>
>
>
>If the LIST enthusiast tried to explain what it does to a spreadsheet
>enthusiast, the spreadsheet enthusiast would think this is a very strange
>thing to do.
>
>
>
>I await vigorous defenses of the use of LIST ;-)

Hello ViAnn
I use LIST (or REPORT) to print case ID's of questionnairs that have
dubious/extreme/wrong/unlikely values on certain variables, so I can find
my way through the mountains of electronically scanned questionnaires in
order to check these.

Also I use LIST sometimes to explain something to a colleague. (By the
way, my colleagues don't have SPSS installed on their computers).

It is also a very conveniant way to produce wallpaper :-)

Bye,
Antoon Smulders

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Francien Berndsen

Re: Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

> Hello ViAnn
> I use LIST (or REPORT) to print case ID's of questionnairs that have
> dubious/extreme/wrong/unlikely values on certain variables, so I can find
> my way through the mountains of electronically scanned questionnaires in
> order to check these.

I agree, it's the only convient way to check strange values. Sometimes I
work with very large datafiles (a couple of million cases). Looking in the
data view itself is not really possible then.

Francien

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Art Kendall

Re: Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

In reply to this post by ViAnn Beadle

Usually I also go to the data view or do a crosstab or other procedure to check transformations. Sometimes I use LIST for a few cases for just the id and the variables in the transformations, rather than rearranging columns in the data view so that I can see the relevant columns simultaneously. The relevant variables might not be on the same screen as each other.

I use LIST when I post a small example of syntax for a user to run to show some aspect of using SPSS. Here are three instances where I felt that it might be helpful to just see the results without changing the focus of attention. In these posts, there is not much data, and I would not expect most users to make hard copies. I also cobble these kinds of examples together when interacting with clients.

021937
022100
025441

Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

ViAnn Beadle wrote:

People use LIST in sample syntax on this listserv because the listserv doesn’t like to forward anything but plain text and LIST creates a simple text object. In real life, why would I use LIST? When I want to check my logic on transformations, I just look at the results of my transformations in the data editor. When I want to look at my filter logic, I still look at the data editor because it indicates with a slash whether the case is in the filter.

If the LIST enthusiast tried to explain what it does to a spreadsheet enthusiast, the spreadsheet enthusiast would think this is a very strange thing to do.

I await vigorous defenses of the use of LIST ;-)

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:10 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Richard

Thanks for this. I think it's worth sharing with other spss-ers.

John

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Subject: RE: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Your observations are correct. LIST is available only in syntax. You can also get case listings via Summarize, which is available in the UI via Analyze>Reports>Case Summaries.

File>Display Data File Information>Working File generates DISPLAY DICTIONARY syntax and does not provide a dialog to control the display parameters.

From: John F Hall [[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: Oliver, Richard
Subject: Re: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Right between my retirement in 1992 and starting over with 11 for Windows in 2002. No wonder I missed it. Been checking out a few utilities for a new tutorial. I can do LIST in syntax, but is there a way of doing this using the menus? Also DISPLAY in menus only seems to have a single output, but a range in syntax. See attached draft.

----- Original Message -----

From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:10 PM

Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL was added in 1998 in SPSS 8.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:57 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:02 PM

Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL command

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Moser, Gary
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:48 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

Disclaimer: This communication may contain Heald College confidential and proprietary data. This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. In addition, if you have received this message in error, please advise the sender by reply email and delete the message.

Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

Art Kendall

Re: Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

I forgot to mention that I also use it to see a few variables on cases that have failed some tests made in transformations.

Art Kendall

Art Kendall wrote:

Usually I also go to the data view or do a crosstab or other procedure to check transformations. Sometimes I use LIST for a few cases for just the id and the variables in the transformations, rather than rearranging columns in the data view so that I can see the relevant columns simultaneously. The relevant variables might not be on the same screen as each other.

I use LIST when I post a small example of syntax for a user to run to show some aspect of using SPSS. Here are three instances where I felt that it might be helpful to just see the results without changing the focus of attention. In these posts, there is not much data, and I would not expect most users to make hard copies. I also cobble these kinds of examples together when interacting with clients.

021937
022100
025441

Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

ViAnn Beadle wrote:

People use LIST in sample syntax on this listserv because the listserv doesn’t like to forward anything but plain text and LIST creates a simple text object. In real life, why would I use LIST? When I want to check my logic on transformations, I just look at the results of my transformations in the data editor. When I want to look at my filter logic, I still look at the data editor because it indicates with a slash whether the case is in the filter.

If the LIST enthusiast tried to explain what it does to a spreadsheet enthusiast, the spreadsheet enthusiast would think this is a very strange thing to do.

I await vigorous defenses of the use of LIST ;-)

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:10 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Richard

Thanks for this. I think it's worth sharing with other spss-ers.

John

----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:48 PM

Subject: RE: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Your observations are correct. LIST is available only in syntax. You can also get case listings via Summarize, which is available in the UI via Analyze>Reports>Case Summaries.

File>Display Data File Information>Working File generates DISPLAY DICTIONARY syntax and does not provide a dialog to control the display parameters.

From: John F Hall [[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: Oliver, Richard
Subject: Re: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Right between my retirement in 1992 and starting over with 11 for Windows in 2002. No wonder I missed it. Been checking out a few utilities for a new tutorial. I can do LIST in syntax, but is there a way of doing this using the menus? Also DISPLAY in menus only seems to have a single output, but a range in syntax. See attached draft.

----- Original Message -----

From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:10 PM

Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL was added in 1998 in SPSS 8.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:57 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:02 PM

Subject: Re: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

VARIABLE LEVEL command

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Moser, Gary
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:48 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement?

Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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Art Kendall
Social Research Consultants

ViAnn Beadle

Re: Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

In reply to this post by Antoon Smulders

Sounds like you need the Data Validation option ;-)

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Antoon Smulders
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:13:49 -0600, ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>People use LIST in sample syntax on this listserv because the listserv
>doesn't like to forward anything but plain text and LIST creates a simple
>text object. In real life, why would I use LIST? When I want to check my
>logic on transformations, I just look at the results of my transformations
>in the data editor. When I want to look at my filter logic, I still look
at
>the data editor because it indicates with a slash whether the case is in
the

Arthur Kramer

Re: Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

In reply to this post by ViAnn Beadle

I use LIST to identify individuals in the file whose data may seem to be anomalous. For example, I often down load query results from a student database into SPSS. When a student, or group of students’, data do not seem right I use a “temporary” “select if” and LIST to view those respective identification number for the student/students. Then go back to the student database and check the data to ascertain whether my query is drawing from the correct table, or if the anomaly is actually correct.

Arthur Kramer, Ph.D.

Director of Institutional Research

New Jersey City University

Hepburn 108B

Phone: 201-200-3073

"Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear."

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ViAnn Beadle
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:14 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Why use LIST (was Syntax for Changing Level of Measurement)

If the LIST enthusiast tried to explain what it does to a spreadsheet enthusiast, the spreadsheet enthusiast would think this is a very strange thing to do.

I await vigorous defenses of the use of LIST ;-)

Richard

Thanks for this. I think it's worth sharing with other spss-ers.

John

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Your observations are correct. LIST is available only in syntax. You can also get case listings via Summarize, which is available in the UI via Analyze>Reports>Case Summaries.

File>Display Data File Information>Working File generates DISPLAY DICTIONARY syntax and does not provide a dialog to control the display parameters.

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Right between my retirement in 1992 and starting over with 11 for Windows in 2002. No wonder I missed it. Been checking out a few utilities for a new tutorial. I can do LIST in syntax, but is there a way of doing this using the menus? Also DISPLAY in menus only seems to have a single output, but a range in syntax. See attached draft.

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VARIABLE LEVEL was added in 1998 in SPSS 8.

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Nice one. Was this there in 1972? You learn something new every day on this list.

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VARIABLE LEVEL command

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Hi List,

Is there a way to change Level of Measurement via syntax? I rarely need to, and just use the gui interface when I do. It would be convenient at times to do this via syntax, particularly when my numeric variables get read in as nominal.

Thanks,

Gary

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> Sounds like you need the Data Validation option ;-)

Unfortunately, that option is not included in the base-version :(

Francien

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Francien Berndsen wrote

> Sounds like you need the Data Validation option ;-)

Unfortunately, that option is not included in the base-version :(

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Some good replies here from experienced front-line users. Sounds like the SPSS tail is wagging the user dog again. Mustn't upset the LISTSERV protocols, must we? If anyone wants to see my draft tutorial on LIST (and DISPLAY) just mail me.

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> Sounds like you need the Data Validation option ;-)

Unfortunately, that option is not included in the base-version :(

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