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Time Series Modeler

Mesut Gunes
Hi everyone,

I am currently studying on forecasting for short term electrical energy
demand and i have 23 months of consumption data. I am using SPSS 17 >
Analyze > Forecasting > Create Model
then SPSS suggests models for each months almost all of them are Winter's
Multiplicative because of the double seasonality but the problem is that
many of the p-values of Ljung-Box Q test are less than 0.05, but 3 of them
are significant.

if i apply the menu again with selecting the elimination of outlier, this
time 10 of them are significant. Totally 11 months are significant.

eventually, i could not find adequate models for every moths.

I want to learn that what is the criteria of selecting model in SPSS 17 Time
Series Modeler?

Any suggestion for my work?

Will i make a big mistake if i ignore the p-values of Ljung-Box Q test, and
go ahead with the models spss suggests?

Best Regards
Mesut.

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Re: Time Series Modeler

Ornelas, Fermin-2
A general comment, 23 observations for an ARIMA model is not enough for estimation, 50 or higher may be better.

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Subject: Time Series Modeler

Hi everyone,

I am currently studying on forecasting for short term electrical energy
demand and i have 23 months of consumption data. I am using SPSS 17 >
Analyze > Forecasting > Create Model
then SPSS suggests models for each months almost all of them are Winter's
Multiplicative because of the double seasonality but the problem is that
many of the p-values of Ljung-Box Q test are less than 0.05, but 3 of them
are significant.

if i apply the menu again with selecting the elimination of outlier, this
time 10 of them are significant. Totally 11 months are significant.

eventually, i could not find adequate models for every moths.

I want to learn that what is the criteria of selecting model in SPSS 17 Time
Series Modeler?

Any suggestion for my work?

Will i make a big mistake if i ignore the p-values of Ljung-Box Q test, and
go ahead with the models spss suggests?

Best Regards
Mesut.

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Re: Time Series Modeler

Mesut Gunes
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Sorry for misunderstanding, i have 23 months hourly observed data so each
months has 24Xday observed data.

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