I’m trying to copy a list of variables from a Word *.docx file to SPSS *.sps. It works when I copy from Word to this email, and from the email to SPSS, but not from Word. Any ideas? variable level WtFactor OldWt RMany RSuper SEmpNum WkJbHrsI EJbHrsX PenXpct1 Tea2 WWWHrsWk OwnCh CarNum AirTrvl shrtjrn Numch5p BaseF01 to ScenF09 idlnchld rcare SHOMEWRK scare RetirAg2 HipOpA to Total AfDied IqDied LATlenb ApartLen HTcm WTkg StTIM NumCh GPAptUH GPAptUC EmploydT Duration NCh015 HhBetOff WhatIncH Dis100 ITNC NOFHH JOBPAY2 to SHDPAY11 TVHrsSC (scale). They aren’t my variable names: they are in the British Social Attitudes files which use mnemonics based on early SPSS 8-character limits. Gets hairy with 2500 odd names and you don’t know where they are in the file! John F Hall (Mr) [Retired academic survey researcher] Email: [hidden email] Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com SPSS start page: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop |
How, specifically, does it not work? Nothing
gets pasted?
Rick Oliver Senior Information Developer IBM Business Analytics (SPSS) E-mail: [hidden email] From: John F Hall <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Date: 04/05/2016 11:50 AM Subject: Trouble copying from Word to *.sps Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> I’m trying to copy a list of variables from a Word *.docx file to SPSS *.sps. It works when I copy from Word to this email, and from the email to SPSS, but not from Word. Any ideas?
variable level WtFactorOldWt RMany RSuper SEmpNum WkJbHrsI EJbHrsX PenXpct1 Tea2 WWWHrsWk OwnCh CarNum AirTrvl shrtjrn Numch5p BaseF01 to ScenF09 idlnchldrcare SHOMEWRK scare RetirAg2 HipOpA to Total AfDied IqDied LATlenb ApartLen HTcm WTkg StTIM NumCh GPAptUH GPAptUC EmploydT Duration NCh015 HhBetOff WhatIncH Dis100 ITNC NOFHH JOBPAY2 to SHDPAY11 TVHrsSC (scale).
They aren’t my variable names: they are in the British Social Attitudes files which use mnemonics based on early SPSS 8-character limits. Gets hairy with 2500 odd names and you don’t know where they are in the file!
John F Hall (Mr) [Retired academic survey researcher]
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Ideas about what? - You have a functioning method for erasing
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the invisible formatting codes in the Word document... which is a step that cannot be ignored, and can't be shortened by much. Using email may seem to work now, but I always did my strip-code copying to Notepad because Notepad will be reliable for doing it. Your email program probably has default settings that can be changed, and you don't want surprises if you (or some upgrade) happens to change the defaults. Or if you change email programs without giving a thought to this functioning. - For keeping track of variables: Obviously, you want to create a numbered list (in some fashion) of the variables. Searching with FIND can get you to any particular name. Scale AA (50 vars, v2-v51) WtFactor OldWt RMany RSuper SEmpNum ... If you feel free enough to touch the names, you could (for example) stick AA_ at the start of each of the names from Scale AA. This has an added benefit of helping to insure uniqueness that defends against mis-spelling a name and picking up a variable from the wrong scale. - The only time that I had thousands of variables in one dataset, they came with mnemonic names like P1_PS01 to P4_PS78. That left me relying on Variable Labels in printouts; but it certainly made it easier to locate the variables and specify them for analyses. -- Rich Ulrich Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:50:00 +0200 From: [hidden email] Subject: Trouble copying from Word to *.sps To: [hidden email] I’m trying to copy a list of variables from a Word *.docx file to SPSS *.sps. It works when I copy from Word to this email, and from the email to SPSS, but not from Word. Any ideas?
variable level WtFactor OldWt RMany RSuper SEmpNum WkJbHrsI EJbHrsX PenXpct1 Tea2 WWWHrsWk OwnCh CarNum AirTrvl shrtjrn Numch5p BaseF01 to ScenF09 idlnchld rcare SHOMEWRK scare RetirAg2 HipOpA to Total AfDied IqDied LATlenb ApartLen HTcm WTkg StTIM NumCh GPAptUH GPAptUC EmploydT Duration NCh015 HhBetOff WhatIncH Dis100 ITNC NOFHH JOBPAY2 to SHDPAY11 TVHrsSC (scale).
They aren’t my variable names: they are in the British Social Attitudes files which use mnemonics based on early SPSS 8-character limits. Gets hairy with 2500 odd names and you don’t know where they are in the file!
John F Hall (Mr) [Retired academic survey researcher]
Email: [hidden email] Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com SPSS start page: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop
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To add to Rich’s suggestion of Notepad, I have saved such word files as type=plain text. Gene Maguin From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Rich Ulrich Ideas about what? - You have a functioning method for erasing Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:50:00 +0200 I’m trying to copy a list of variables from a Word *.docx file to SPSS *.sps. It works when I copy from Word
to this email, and from the email to SPSS, but not from Word. Any ideas? variable level WtFactor
OldWt RMany
RSuper SEmpNum
WkJbHrsI
EJbHrsX PenXpct1 Tea2
WWWHrsWk OwnCh
CarNum AirTrvl shrtjrn Numch5p
BaseF01 to ScenF09
idlnchld
rcare SHOMEWRK scare RetirAg2
HipOpA to Total AfDied
IqDied LATlenb
ApartLen HTcm
WTkg StTIM
NumCh GPAptUH
GPAptUC EmploydT Duration NCh015
HhBetOff
WhatIncH Dis100 ITNC NOFHH
JOBPAY2 to SHDPAY11
TVHrsSC (scale). They aren’t my variable names: they are in the British Social Attitudes files which use mnemonics based on early SPSS 8-character limits. Gets hairy with 2500 odd names and
you don’t know where they are in the file! John F Hall (Mr) [Retired academic survey researcher] Email:
[hidden email] Website:
www.surveyresearch.weebly.com
SPSS start page:
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John, I also do what Rich called "strip-code copying" by pasting into a text editor as an intermediate step. (I use EditPad Lite instead of Notepad--it allows multiple tabs.)
It may also make your life easier if you do the following in Word before copying: 1. Set the spacing to 1.0; and 2. Remove all spaces before or after paragraphs. https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Adjust-the-line-spacing-between-text-or-paragraphs-76647c60-de75-4a2c-95eb-aa9369530ff3 HTH.
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Bruce, Gene, Rich, Victor Thanks for all the suggestions about plain text etc. What was happening was that every time I did CTRL+V with the text from Word the line: /min . . was added to the syntax editor from a series of earlier CTRL+C /CTRL+V repeat copies of /sta min mea. desc var ~ ~ ~ . . between different sets of variables sorted by problem type. The text in Word was single-spaced, but in two columns: I reformatted it to single column, but it made no difference. I copied it to Notepad, then to Excel, and tried from there: still no difference. Finally I tried email and Bingo! I'd still like to know what was actually happening inside my machine, particularly if there was some kind of cache in SPSS. On playing with variable names, I am working with key lists of variables into which I have inserted the row numbers of the variable names (all of which are copied direct from the Names column of the *.sav file: laborious when the measurement levels are different every two lines, but effective when whole blocks are of the same type). 743 [DRIVE] 747 [BikeRid] 796 [EngLvUK] 799 [ScotPas2] 806 [LevTax2A] to 811 [PenScUK] 847 [MigAppl] to 849 [MigRight] 946 [RPrivEd] to 948 [ChPrivEd] 951 [S2PartFl] This way I can keep track. Within variable level Nominal, I make a distinction between binary (Yes/No or forced choice) and dichotomous (multiple choice lists) and partially ordered (which, with a simple recode, could be made ordinal). Working with earlier versions of single BSA surveys, it was possible to use the question numbers in navigation, after Jon Peck supplied a nifty bit of Python code to move them from the end of the variable labels: Some people say there is very little real poverty in Britain today. Which comes closest to your view :Q293 Over the last ten years poverty in Britain has been increasing, decreasing or staying at about the same level? :Q294 . . to the beginning). : Q.293: Some people say there is very little real poverty in Britain today. Which comes closest to your view Q.294: Over the last ten years poverty in Britain has been increasing, decreasing or staying at about the same level? This made it easier (with a questionnaire to hand, marked up with data locations for 80-column records) to find stuff by scrolling down the Labels column and, in the dialog boxes, using labels, not names. To make life difficult for secondary analysis and teaching, the BSA now uses CAPI and the questionnaires are only available in BLAISE or similar format. The variable labels in the latest files have not only dispensed with question numbers altogether, but use the text of the actual question. This makes for inordinately long labels, many with the most useful information at the end: Name Label HltTar1 Generally health targets should be set by government, Or, local health providers should set their own targets . . often with long chunks of text repeated, eg in multiple checklist items. Name Label ChCoIntrNHS5yrI1 And who do you think is primarily responsible for this improvement? : Government policies NHS5yrI2 And who do you think is primarily responsible for this improvement? : How services are regulated NHS5yrI3 And who do you think is primarily responsible for this improvement? : Individual providers NHS5yrI4 And who do you think is primarily responsible for this improvement? : NHS clinical staff . . or value labels that seem to have crept in from BLAISE CAPI: Name Values MiIntro 1 Press 1 and <Enter> to continue ChCoIntr 1 Press 1 and <Enter> to continue On strip-code copying: Many years ago, using EDT on a Vax cluster, it was possible to strip out whole columns of text and transfer them elsewhere. Nowadays it’s more complicated, but would probably work with Excel. Why do I bother doing this? Many of the SPSS tutorials on my site use data from the 1970s and 1980s, most recently British Social Attitudes 1989. I now wish to replicate examples and exercises use data from more recent waves. As a (retired) teacher I dread to think how newbies would cope with the files as distributed, or how, without several weeks of preparation, I could even begin to use them in a 13-week semester of one hour class-room teaching and a two-hour lab session each week. My working file is far too complex, large and cumbersome (2588 variables, 19,399 cases) to be used for teaching and needs a quite a bit of tidying up. I aim to produce a “mother” file from which teachers, researchers and students can extract data of interest to them and proceed direct to analysis without further hassle. This could take some time. The final version will be lodged with Natcen (http://www.natcen.ac.uk/ ) who own the data, and copied to UKDS (https://www.ukdataservice.ac.uk/ ) who will hopefully make it available to the research and teaching world. However, to access the actual data, users will first need to be registered with UKDS. John F Hall (Mr) [Retired academic survey researcher] Email: [hidden email] Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com SPSS start page: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bruce Weaver Sent: 05 April 2016 22:25 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Trouble copying from Word to *.sps John, I also do what Rich called "strip-code copying" by pasting into a text editor as an intermediate step. (I use EditPad Lite instead of Notepad--it allows multiple tabs.) It may also make your life easier if you do the following in Word before copying: 1. Set the spacing to 1.0; and 2. Remove all spaces before or after paragraphs. https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Adjust-the-line-spacing-between-text-or-paragraphs-76647c60-de75-4a2c-95eb-aa9369530ff3 HTH. Rich Ulrich wrote > Ideas about what? - You have a functioning method for erasing the > invisible formatting codes in the Word document... which is a step > that cannot be ignored, and can't be shortened by much. > > Using email may seem to work now, but I always did my strip-code > copying to Notepad because Notepad will be reliable for doing it. > Your email program probably has default settings that can be changed, > and you don't want surprises if you (or some upgrade) happens to > change the defaults. Or if you change email programs without giving a > thought to this functioning. > > - For keeping track of variables: Obviously, you want to create a > numbered list (in some fashion) of the variables. Searching with FIND > can get you to any particular name. > > Scale AA (50 vars, v2-v51) > WtFactor OldWt RMany RSuper SEmpNum ... > > If you feel free enough to touch the names, you could (for example) > stick AA_ at the start of each of the names from Scale AA. This has > an added benefit of helping to insure uniqueness that defends against > mis-spelling a name and picking up a variable from the wrong scale. > > - The only time that I had thousands of variables in one dataset, > they came with mnemonic names like P1_PS01 to P4_PS78. That left me > relying on Variable Labels in printouts; but it certainly made it > easier to locate the variables and specify them for analyses. > > -- > Rich Ulrich > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:50:00 +0200 > From: > johnfhall@ > Subject: Trouble copying from Word to *.sps > To: > SPSSX-L@.UGA > > I’m trying to copy a list of variables from a Word *.docx file to SPSS > *.sps. It works when I copy from Word to this email, and from the > email to SPSS, but not from Word. Any ideas? variable levelWtFactor > OldWt RMany RSuper SEmpNum WkJbHrsI EJbHrsXPenXpct1 Tea2 > WWWHrsWkOwnCh CarNum AirTrvlshrtjrn Numch5p BaseF01 to ScenF09 > idlnchld rcare SHOMEWRK scareRetirAg2 HipOpA to TotalAfDied IqDiedLATlenb ApartLenHTcm > WTkgStTIM NumChGPAptUH GPAptUCEmploydT DurationNCh015 HhBetOff > WhatIncHDis100 ITNCNOFHH JOBPAY2 to SHDPAY11 TVHrsSC > (scale). They aren’t my variable names: they are in the British Social > Attitudes files which use mnemonics based on early SPSS 8-character > limits. Gets hairy with 2500 odd names and you don’t know where they are > in the file! John F Hall (Mr)[Retired academic survey researcher] Email: > johnfhall@ > Website: www.surveyresearch.weebly.com SPSS start page: > www.surveyresearch.weebly.com/1-survey-analysis-workshop > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > LISTSERV@.UGA > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. 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