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Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

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Ursula Mills

Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Does anyone know how to fix this problem? When running a bivariate correlation analysis, there is no paste button visible in the dialog box, even after I move variables into the variable box. The only buttons visible are OK, Reset, Cancel and Help. [I am running student version 16.0 on Vista].

John F Hall

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Not sure what you mean by bivariate, but have you tried syntax?

File

New

Syntax

corr x with y.

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Subject: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Does anyone know how to fix this problem? When running a bivariate correlation analysis, there is no paste button visible in the dialog box, even after I move variables into the variable box. The only buttons visible are OK, Reset, Cancel and Help. [I am running student version 16.0 on Vista].

Kylie

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

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Hi Ursula,

Unfortunately the student version of SPSS doesn't come with the syntax
facilities, so you're limited to using the GUI.

Kylie.

Quoting Ursula Mills <[hidden email]>:

> Does anyone know how to fix this problem? When running a bivariate
> correlation analysis, there is no paste button visible in the dialog box,
> even after I move variables into the variable box. The only buttons visible
> are OK, Reset, Cancel and Help. [I am running student version 16.0 on Vista].

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John F Hall

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

In reply to this post by Ursula Mills

Just in case it wasn't clear what I meant::

Go to your Data Editor and click on :

File

New

Syntax

write:

corr var1 with var2.

in the box and run the job with [CTRL]R or Run...Current line.

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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:17 PM

Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Not sure what you mean by bivariate, but have you tried syntax?

File

New

Syntax

corr x with y.

----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:40 PM

Subject: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Does anyone know how to fix this problem? When running a bivariate correlation analysis, there is no paste button visible in the dialog box, even after I move variables into the variable box. The only buttons visible are OK, Reset, Cancel and Help. [I am running student version 16.0 on Vista].

Fry, Jonathan B.

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

There is no syntax window in any Student version, and no Paste function.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:25 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Just in case it wasn't clear what I meant::

Go to your Data Editor and click on :

File

New

Syntax

write:

corr var1 with var2.

in the box and run the job with [CTRL]R or Run...Current line.

----- Original Message -----

From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:17 PM

Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Not sure what you mean by bivariate, but have you tried syntax?

File

New

Syntax

corr x with y.

----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:40 PM

Subject: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Does anyone know how to fix this problem? When running a bivariate correlation analysis, there is no paste button visible in the dialog box, even after I move variables into the variable box. The only buttons visible are OK, Reset, Cancel and Help. [I am running student version 16.0 on Vista].

John F Hall

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Not much point in me writing tutorials then, is there? How on earth do they expect students to learn anything if all they can do is point and click?

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

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Kylie Lange-3 wrote

Hi Ursula,

Unfortunately the student version of SPSS doesn't come with the syntax
facilities, so you're limited to using the GUI.

Kylie.

That is very unfortunate indeed. What possible reason could there be for not having a PASTE button in the student version? Can one at least run syntax with the student version?

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Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

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Bruce Weaver wrote

Kylie Lange-3 wrote

Hi Ursula,

Unfortunately the student version of SPSS doesn't come with the syntax
facilities, so you're limited to using the GUI.

Kylie.

That is very unfortunate indeed. What possible reason could there be for not having a PASTE button in the student version? Can one at least run syntax with the student version?

Oops...I clicked SEND too soon. I guess that "doesn't come with syntax facilities" means that one cannot run syntax. So I return to my first question: What possible reason could there be for creating a student version that prohibits use of syntax? This is crazy, IMO.

Debra Miller-2

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

In reply to this post by John F Hall

Jonathon, I have a student grad pack version (17) that I operate on Windows XP. I'm able to use syntax in a separate window. Is a grad version different than other student versions, and/or is my grad syntax window different than a syntax window available on full professional versions?

Debbie Miller

Mixed Methods Consulting

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

Not much point in me writing tutorials then, is there? How on earth do they expect students to learn anything if all they can do is point and click?

See also threads on

Teaching survey analysis with SPSS

SPSS and aliens

Plus all the stuff on PASW, IBM takeovers etc.. Doesn't anyone remember how SPSS started? I thought it was by and for social scientists doing survey analysis.

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Subject: RE: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

There is no syntax window in any Student version, and no Paste function.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:25 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Just in case it wasn't clear what I meant::

Go to your Data Editor and click on :

File

   New

      Syntax

write:

corr var1 with var2.

in the box and run the job with [CTRL]R or Run...Current line.

----- Original Message -----

From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:17 PM

Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Not sure what you mean by bivariate, but have you tried syntax?

File

   New

      Syntax

corr x with y.

----- Original Message -----

From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:40 PM

Subject: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Does anyone know how to fix this problem? When running a bivariate correlation analysis
, there is no paste button visible in the dialog box, even after I move variables into the variable box. The only buttons visible are OK, Reset, Cancel and Help. [I am running student version 16.0 on Vista].

Fry, Jonathan B.

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Grad Pack is a different product from the Student version, and does have a syntax window and Paste functionality.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Debra Miller
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:14 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Debbie Miller

Mixed Methods Consulting

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

Not much point in me writing tutorials then, is there? How on earth do they expect students to learn anything if all they can do is point and click?

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

In reply to this post by Debra Miller-2

Hi Debra,

The GradPack is a different, and more advanced, version than the Student Version. The Student Version consists of the Base Module only (terminology may have changed now since the introduction of PASW?), and no syntax. The GradPack consists of Base, plus the Regression Models and Advanced Models modules – and includes the syntax facilities.

The syntax window that you have is the same as in the full version, but obviously you’re limited to running syntax commands only for the procedures in Base/Regression/Advanced.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Kylie.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Debra Miller
Sent: Friday, 2 October 2009 6:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Debbie Miller

Mixed Methods Consulting

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

Not much point in me writing tutorials then, is there? How on earth do they expect students to learn anything if all they can do is point and click?

Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

In reply to this post by Fry, Jonathan B.

This could well explain why the best-selling SPSS Survival Manuals for 10/11 and 12 (Julie Pallant, Open University Press, 1st edition, SPSS 10/11, 2001, 2nd edition, SPSS 12 2005) use only drop-down menus.

I reviewed both editions, critically and at length, for the Social Research Association (UK). The first was heavily abridged for publication, but the full length original (3,100 words) is on Review of Julie Pallant "SPSS Survival Manual" 1st edition 2001 and the second (1,800 words) on Review of Julie Pallant, SPSS Survival Manual 2nd edition 2005

These excellent and deservedly best-selling books are more helpful to students and researchers in psychology than those in sociology or social research. In my reviews I drew attention to important SPSS facilities and procedures, and to analysis involving tabulation, which get no mention in either book, but was particularly appalled by the exclusive use of drop-down menus and complete lack of any direct syntax. One of the slide shows Old Dog, Old Tricks 5: Exercises from SPSS Survival Manual for my Old Dog, Old Tricks paper Old Dog, Old Tricks: Using SPSS Syntax to Avoid the Mouse Trap even repeats a full set of exercises from the second edition. Both reviews and the slide show contain detailed examples demonstrating the clear superiority, in my opinion, of syntax over drop-down menus.

Were syntax and PASTE available in Student and GradPack versions 10, 11 and 12?

If not, I owe Julie an unreserved and craven apology.

On the bright side, if I hadn't requested the SRA's review copy of the 1st edition I may never have requested a licence for SPSS for Windows, never have recreated important data sets from 40 years in survey research and never have started updating, converting and writing SPSS learning materials (See Guide to learning materials and SPSS and Introduction to COUNT and COMPUTE) based on 38 years of using and teaching various releases of SPSS on a range of mainframes and, since 2002, SPSS for Windows on a PC.

For all this I owe Julie heartfelt thanks.

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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:41 PM

Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Grad Pack is a different product from the Student version, and does have a syntax window and Paste functionality.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Debra Miller
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:14 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Jonathon, I have a student grad pack version (17) that I operate on Windows XP. I'm able to use syntax in a separate window. Is a grad version different than other student versions, and/or is my grad syntax window different than a syntax window available on full professional versions?

Debbie Miller

Mixed Methods Consulting

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, John F Hall <[hidden email]> wrote:

Not much point in me writing tutorials then, is there? How on earth do they expect students to learn anything if all they can do is point and click?

See also threads on

Teaching survey analysis with SPSS

SPSS and aliens

Plus all the stuff on PASW, IBM takeovers etc.. Doesn't anyone remember how SPSS started? I thought it was by and for social scientists doing survey analysis.

----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:10 PM

Subject: RE: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

There is no syntax window in any Student version, and no Paste function.

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:25 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Just in case it wasn't clear what I meant::

Go to your Data Editor and click on :

File

   New

      Syntax

write:

corr var1 with var2.

in the box and run the job with [CTRL]R or Run...Current line.

----- Original Message -----

From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:17 PM

Subject: Re: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Not sure what you mean by bivariate, but have you tried syntax?

File

   New

      Syntax

corr x with y.

----- Original Message -----

From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:40 PM

Subject: Unable to access Syntax Window (SPSS 16.0 for Windows, running on Vista)

Does anyone know how to fix this problem? When running a bivariate correlation analysis

, there is no paste button visible in the dialog box, even after I move variables into the variable box. The only buttons visible are OK, Reset, Cancel and Help. [I am running student version 16.0 on Vista].