Updated comparison table for SAS-SPSS Add-ons and R Functions

[Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)]

Hi All,

I have substantially expanded the table that compares SAS and SPSS
add-on modules to somewhat equivalent R packages. This new version is
at:
http://r4stats.com/add-on-modules
and I would very much appreciate any feedback you might have on it.

The site http://r4stats.com is the replacement to
http://RforSASandSPSSusers.com and includes the support files for both
"R for SAS and SPSS Users" and the new "R for Stata Users", due out in
March from Springer. I'll phase the older site out eventually and change
the URL to point to the new one.

Thanks,
Bob

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[Liviu Andronic]

Hello

On 1/13/10, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  http://r4stats.com/add-on-modules
>  and I would very much appreciate any feedback you might have on it.
>
Perhaps add latticist and playwith to the list of "Graphics, Interactive"?

Regards
Liviu

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[Liviu Andronic]

On 1/14/10, Liviu Andronic <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Perhaps add latticist and playwith to the list of "Graphics, Interactive"?
>
.. and remove latticist from "Graphics, Static". Also, add rattle to
"Graphical user interfaces"?

Liviu

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[Researcher-4]

Hi

Please note that STATISTICA (www.statsoft.com) has an R language Platform.
Thanks
Researcher
----- Original Message -----
From: "Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:53 AM
Subject: Updated comparison table for SAS-SPSS Add-ons and R Functions

> Hi All,
>
> I have substantially expanded the table that compares SAS and SPSS
> add-on modules to somewhat equivalent R packages. This new version is
> at:
> http://r4stats.com/add-on-modules
> and I would very much appreciate any feedback you might have on it.
>
> The site http://r4stats.com is the replacement to
> http://RforSASandSPSSusers.com and includes the support files for both
> "R for SAS and SPSS Users" and the new "R for Stata Users", due out in
> March from Springer. I'll phase the older site out eventually and change
> the URL to point to the new one.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> =========================================================
>  Bob Muenchen (pronounced Min'-chen), Manager
>  Research Computing Support
>  Voice: [phone]
>  Email: [hidden email]
>  Web:   http://oit.utk.edu/research,
>  News:  http://oit.utk.edu/research/news.php
> =========================================================
>
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[Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)]

Hi Liviu,

Thanks for those suggestions. I've made the changes and added you to the list of contributors.

Cheers,
Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liviu Andronic [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:06 AM
> To: Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
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> Subject: Re: [R] Updated comparison table for SAS-SPSS Add-ons and R
> Functions
>
> On 1/14/10, Liviu Andronic <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Perhaps add latticist and playwith to the list of "Graphics,
> Interactive"?
> >
> .. and remove latticist from "Graphics, Static". Also, add rattle to
> "Graphical user interfaces"?
>
> Liviu

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[Steve Simon, P.Mean Consulting]

Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:

> I have substantially expanded the table that compares SAS and SPSS
> add-on modules to somewhat equivalent R packages. This new version is
> at:
> http://r4stats.com/add-on-modules
> and I would very much appreciate any feedback you might have on it.

Very nice site. I would suggest that you refer to

http://www.spss.com/software/product-name-guide/

for the names of the SPSS products. Typically, where you say "IBM SPSS",
it should probably read "PASW". It might be worthwhile to always list
both the old and new names side by side because some of us are still
confused by all the name changes. So your first row might read
  * PASW Advanced Statistics/SPSS Advanced Statistics
and the row on classification/cluster analysis might read
  * PASW Classification/Clementine Classification Module

The section on data mining is a bit confusing, which is largely because
data mining is such a broad area. Also, classification and clustering
are not at all similar, so the row on this topic should be split. I'd
break it up into supervised learning (classification) and include things
like neural nets, support vector machines, discriminant analysis. The
other broad category in data mining is unsupervised learning
(clustering/segmentation analysis) and it might include things like
kmeans clustering, hierarchical clustering, and model based clustering.

You should add rows for
  * Bayesian data analysis
  * Generalized linear models
  * Item Response Theory
  * Logistic regression
  * Nonlinear regression
  * ROC curves
  * Survival data

The section on power analysis should be better titled as "Power and
sample size calculations"

The topic "Advanced Models" is too vague and too broad. I would use some
of the terms mentioned above instead. If you do keep "Advanced Models" I
would define it somehow (non-linear models? generalized linear models?)

Similarly, the term "Regression models" is vague. I assume that you mean
multiple linear regression models or general linear models.

There are more R packages for genetics than just Bioconductor.

These comments are all minor. The list, as it stands, is excellent. You
are welcome to take or ignore any or all of these comments.
--
Steve Simon, Standard Disclaimer
"The first three steps in a descriptive
data analysis, with examples in PASW/SPSS"
Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11am-noon, CST.
Free to all! Details at www.pmean.com/webinars

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[Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)]

Hi Steve,

The PASW issue has caused a lot of confusion, but it is my understanding
that since IBM purchased SPSS, the page you refer to is obsolete and
should be removed. The PASW name has changed again already to IBM SPSS
xxxx. This page: http://www.spss.com/software/statistics/ is, I hope,
the source of the latest product titles.

You make several suggestions that make perfect sense, but keep in mind
that the main R site already has a breakdown by many different
classifications, and it's easy to search for something there like
"discriminant analysis." What is not easy to figure out from the R CRAN
site is how all those functions relate to the products as packaged by
SPSS and SAS.

Having said that, I'll dig back into some of the categories you
mentioned and see if I can add things that will clarify some of those
categories.

Thanks for your thoughtful suggestions!

Cheers,
Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf
> Of Steve Simon, P.Mean Consulting
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:14 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Updated comparison table for SAS-SPSS Add-ons and R
> Functions
>
> Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:
>
> > I have substantially expanded the table that compares SAS and SPSS
> > add-on modules to somewhat equivalent R packages. This new version

is

> > at:
> > http://r4stats.com/add-on-modules
> > and I would very much appreciate any feedback you might have on it.
>
> Very nice site. I would suggest that you refer to
>
> http://www.spss.com/software/product-name-guide/
>
> for the names of the SPSS products. Typically, where you say "IBM
> SPSS",
> it should probably read "PASW". It might be worthwhile to always list
> both the old and new names side by side because some of us are still
> confused by all the name changes. So your first row might read
>   * PASW Advanced Statistics/SPSS Advanced Statistics
> and the row on classification/cluster analysis might read
>   * PASW Classification/Clementine Classification Module
>
> The section on data mining is a bit confusing, which is largely

because
> data mining is such a broad area. Also, classification and clustering
> are not at all similar, so the row on this topic should be split. I'd
> break it up into supervised learning (classification) and include
> things
> like neural nets, support vector machines, discriminant analysis. The
> other broad category in data mining is unsupervised learning
> (clustering/segmentation analysis) and it might include things like
> kmeans clustering, hierarchical clustering, and model based
clustering.

>
> You should add rows for
>   * Bayesian data analysis
>   * Generalized linear models
>   * Item Response Theory
>   * Logistic regression
>   * Nonlinear regression
>   * ROC curves
>   * Survival data
>
> The section on power analysis should be better titled as "Power and
> sample size calculations"
>
> The topic "Advanced Models" is too vague and too broad. I would use
> some
> of the terms mentioned above instead. If you do keep "Advanced Models"
> I
> would define it somehow (non-linear models? generalized linear

models?)
>
> Similarly, the term "Regression models" is vague. I assume that you
> mean
> multiple linear regression models or general linear models.
>
> There are more R packages for genetics than just Bioconductor.
>
> These comments are all minor. The list, as it stands, is excellent.
You

> are welcome to take or ignore any or all of these comments.
> --
> Steve Simon, Standard Disclaimer
> "The first three steps in a descriptive
> data analysis, with examples in PASW/SPSS"
> Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11am-noon, CST.
> Free to all! Details at www.pmean.com/webinars
>
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