Version 19 syntax help - only online?
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I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you have to be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was able to click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop up. Now syntax help goes online. I
don't always happen to be online when working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the sytax help within the program?
Thanks
Carol
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It's not online; it just looks that way.
It's launching a help file on your local machine.
Rick Oliver Senior Information Developer Business Analytics (SPSS) E-mail: [hidden email] From: "Parise, Carol A." <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Date: 11/11/2011 12:51 PM Subject: Version 19 syntax help - only online? Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you have to be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was able to click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop up. Now syntax help goes online. I don't always happen to be online when working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the sytax help within the program? Thanks Carol |
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Hi Carol,
The help opens in a browser, but it's a local copy installed with SPSS. Note that the syntax reference PDF should also be in the installation directory. Alex From: "Parise, Carol A." <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Date: 11/11/2011 12:51 PM Subject: Version 19 syntax help - only online? Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you have to be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was able to click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop up. Now syntax help goes online. I don't always happen to be online when working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the sytax help within the program? Thanks Carol |
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Really? It's pulling up a window in IE explorer and taking
forever to load. From: Rick Oliver [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:10 AM To: Parise, Carol A. Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Version 19 syntax help - only online? Rick Oliver Senior Information Developer Business Analytics (SPSS) E-mail: [hidden email] From: "Parise, Carol A." <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Date: 11/11/2011 12:51 PM Subject: Version 19 syntax help - only online? Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you have to be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was able to click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop up. Now syntax help goes online. I don't always happen to be online when working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the sytax help within the program? Thanks Carol |
Re: Version 19 syntax help - only online?
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Eclipse help runs in a browser window.
Since the help system is quite large, it takes some time to load the first
time you launch the help during a session. After that, it should load very
quickly.
From: "Parise, Carol A." <[hidden email]> To: Rick Oliver/Chicago/IBM@IBMUS Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: 11/11/2011 01:15 PM Subject: RE: Version 19 syntax help - only online? Really? It's pulling up a window in IE explorer and taking forever to load. From: Rick Oliver [mailto:oliverr@...] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:10 AM To: Parise, Carol A. Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Version 19 syntax help - only online? It's not online; it just looks that way. It's launching a help file on your local machine. Rick Oliver Senior Information Developer Business Analytics (SPSS) E-mail: [hidden email] From: "Parise, Carol A." <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Date: 11/11/2011 12:51 PM Subject: Version 19 syntax help - only online? Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you have to be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was able to click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop up. Now syntax help goes online. I don't always happen to be online when working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the sytax help within the program? Thanks Carol |
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Click on Help > Syntax guide then scroll down. From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Parise, Carol A. I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you have to be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was able to click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop up. Now syntax help goes online. I don't always happen to be online when working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the sytax help within the program? Thanks Carol |
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I too am surprised to hear that the Help files are stored locally, because my experience has been the same as Carol's--i.e., compared to v18 and before, it is unbelievably slow to load. Being a bit of a skeptic, I unplugged my network cable before clicking on Help - Topics. Sure enough, it did load. So, I guess the moral of the story is to load the Help right away when you start a new session.
Cheers, Bruce
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Hi Carol,
No, i can get a version of help on my unplugged laptop. I think it is the full 'connect-to-ibm' version but i'm not quite sure. If it is that's nice because i don't think that microsoft gives a full version of help on the 2010 programs like access. Actually, other than checking for the license code--a big deal, i'm sure, i don't quite see the point of forcing a connect to the server. Gene Maguin On Fri 11/11/11 1:48 PM , "Parise, Carol A." [hidden email] sent: > I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you > have to be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was > able to click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop > up. Now syntax help goes online. I don't always happen to be online > when working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the > sytax help within the program? Thanks Carol > ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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After i sent a reply i saw that many others had already replied. Sorry.
But, I too, am curious as to what is happening when spss starts on an unplugged machine. As near as i can remember the first time i started spss, it seemed as though it wanted to go out on the web to somewhere and the it seems odd to me that the browser address when help is loaded seems to be a valid internet address. And, while i'm curious (and bitching) i don't quite see now the new help system is an improvement over the old version. Gene Maguin On Fri 11/11/11 2:18 PM , Rick Oliver [hidden email] sent: > Eclipse help runs in a browser window. Since the help system is quite > large, it takes some time to load the first time you launch the help > during a session. After that, it should load very quickly. > From: "Parise, Carol A." > To: Rick Oliver/Chicago/IBM@IBMUS > Cc: "[hidden email]" > Date: 11/11/2011 01:15 PM > Subject: RE: Version 19 syntax help - only online? > ------------------------- > Really? It's pulling up a window in IE explorer and taking forever to > load. > ------------------------- > FROM: Rick Oliver [mailto:[hidden email] [1]] > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:10 AM > To: Parise, Carol A. > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Version 19 syntax help - only online? > It's not online; it just looks that way. It's launching a help file > on your local machine. > Rick Oliver > Senior Information Developer > Business Analytics (SPSS) > E-mail: [hidden email] > From: "Parise, Carol A." > To: [hidden email] > Date: 11/11/2011 12:51 PM > Subject: Version 19 syntax help - only online? > Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" > ------------------------- > I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you have to > be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was able to > click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop up. Now > syntax help goes online. I don't always happen to be online when > working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the sytax > help within the program? > Thanks > Carol > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:[hidden email]> > ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Carol Just now, 25 seconds for menu to fill (15 seconds for the text in the right pane) but my computer is quite fast (Windows7 Pro, 32-bit, Intel Core i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07 GHz). It’s a bit slower if I’m editing films from TV to DVD, but a lot faster than my 1965 Algol program’s 40 mins cpu for a 2 x 3 crosstab (program, data and output on paper tape) on an English Electric KDF9! I’m copying this to the list, but without the screenshots. John From: Parise, Carol A. [mailto:[hidden email]] Good to know...when you say "a while" are you talking 2 minutes, 10 minutes? i'm 4 minutes into opening and it hasn't come up. I'm starting to suspect v19 is going to require me getting a faster computer! From: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]] Carol Took a while to download, but my screen looks like this: [Screenshot of Topics menus, Getting Help highlighted] To be honest, I’ve never used it, but I suppose I ought to browse through and add a note to my tutorials. We ought to put this exchange on the list, but it will need to be edited as it won’t accept attachments or screenshot inserts. John From: Parise, Carol A. [mailto:[hidden email]] wow. this is much quicker than when clicking "topics"! When you click "topics" are you gettting a listing on the left pane unlike I am showing below? This is still "spinning" trying to pull something up but it still looks like this. Thank you! carol [Screenshot of syntaxreference.pdf overlaid with Help – IBM Statitsics (waiting for menu to fill)] From: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]] Carole Sorry, that should have been: Help > Command Syntax Reference… [Screenshot of data editor in variable view with Help > Command Syntax Reference highlighted] . . . which opens a huge pdf file with more syntax than you can dream of. As you can see I’m on 19 as well, but I have no problems with it and it’s a lot prettier than 11, 15 and 18. However, if I ever print up tutorials, it still uses too much blue ink! John From: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]] Click on Help > Syntax guide then scroll down. From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Parise, Carol A. I just started becoming a regular user of version 19. Do you have to be online to use the syntax help? In previous versions, I was able to click the "syntax help" and an index of help topics would pop up. Now syntax help goes online. I don't always happen to be online when working in spss. Do i need to install something else to get the sytax help within the program? Thanks Carol |
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I recommend you totally forget SPSS 19 and jump to SPSS 20…it is far more smoother than 19…19 looked like to be coded by IBM programmers in East Asia and/or India working for 2 cents/day!!! Carol Just now, 25 seconds for menu to fill (15 seconds for the text in the right pane) but my computer is quite fast (Windows7 Pro, 32-bit, Intel Core i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07 GHz). It’s a bit slower if I’m editing films from TV to DVD, but a lot faster than my 1965 Algol program’s 40 mins cpu for a 2 x 3 crosstab (program, data and output on paper tape) on an English Electric KDF9! I’m copying this to the list, but without the screenshots. John |
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