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What's ailing Nabble?

David Marso
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Not sure if this will even post.
Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
Please reply to the list and not to my personal email.
Those desiring my consulting or training services please feel free to email me.
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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Rick Oliver

I have not been able to even view any SPSS posts on Nabble for several days.


On Aug 24, 2016 11:53 AM, "David Marso" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Not sure if this will even post.
Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?



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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

David Marso
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Lets see if reply from mail works?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Rick Oliver <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have not been able to even view any SPSS posts on Nabble for several days.


On Aug 24, 2016 11:53 AM, "David Marso" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Not sure if this will even post.
Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?



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Those desiring my consulting or training services please feel free to email me.
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Cum es damnatorum possederunt porcos iens ut salire off sanguinum cliff in abyssum?"
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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Art Kendall
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Definitely.
Had link to support but it wanted you to pay to report problem.

Several times I received error messages when I clicked an entry on the list of topics or when I clicked reply.

I did not want to keep the reply page open too long so I dashed off a response.

P.S. teh EXECUTE was unnecessary because SAVE is a procedure.
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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Bruce Weaver
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Yes!  I'm having all of those problems too plus "unable to connect" and "too many users" etc.

Furthermore, it looks like messages that have been successfully posted via Nabble in the last couple days are not being propagated to the UGA mailing list.  But this is testable.  If there is anyone who does not use Nabble at all that is seeing this, please respond indicating that you have seen this message!  ;-)

Finally, I've just e-mailed Hugo (from Nabble) to alert him to the problems.  With any luck, he'll be able to diagnose and fix the problem fairly quickly.

Cheers,
Bruce

p.s. - Crossing my fingers as I prepare to click on Post Message!  

David Marso wrote
Not sure if this will even post.
Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
--
Bruce Weaver
bweaver@lakeheadu.ca
http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/

"When all else fails, RTFM."

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING: 
1. My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly. To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
2. The SPSSX Discussion forum on Nabble is no longer linked to the SPSSX-L listserv administered by UGA (https://listserv.uga.edu/).
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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Rich Ulrich
Maybe the problem just lately (10:00 pm) got fixed?

I just now logged on for the first time today (I think).
I see the message cited below, plus, in this thread
  David Marso 12:53 pm
  Rick Oliver 1:01
  David Marso 1:04
  Art Kendall 1:17

I also see Bruce Weaver with TEST of email at 2:51 pm.

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> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:51:41 -0700

> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: What's ailing Nabble?
> To: [hidden email]
>
> Yes! I'm having all of those problems too plus "unable to connect" and "too
> many users" etc.
>
> Furthermore, it looks like messages that have been successfully posted via
> Nabble in the last couple days are not being propagated to the UGA mailing
> list. But this is testable. *If there is anyone who does not use Nabble at
> all that is seeing this, please respond indicating that you have seen this
> message!* ;-)
>
> Finally, I've just e-mailed Hugo (from Nabble) to alert him to the problems.
> With any luck, he'll be able to diagnose and fix the problem fairly quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
>
> p.s. - Crossing my fingers as I prepare to click on *Post Message*!
>
>
> David Marso wrote
> > Not sure if this will even post.
> > Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
> > Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> --
> Bruce Weaver
> [hidden email]
> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
>
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
>
> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/What-s-ailing-Nabble-tp5732970p5732976.html
> Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> =====================
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> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD
===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Ryan
In reply to this post by Bruce Weaver
I noticed the list didn't seem that active recently, but I chalked it up to back-to-school prep etc. I wonder if these technical issues are related.

Ryan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes!  I'm having all of those problems too plus "unable to connect" and "too
> many users" etc.
>
> Furthermore, it looks like messages that have been successfully posted via
> Nabble in the last couple days are not being propagated to the UGA mailing
> list.  But this is testable.  *If there is anyone who does not use Nabble at
> all that is seeing this, please respond indicating that you have seen this
> message!*  ;-)
>
> Finally, I've just e-mailed Hugo (from Nabble) to alert him to the problems.
> With any luck, he'll be able to diagnose and fix the problem fairly quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
>
> p.s. - Crossing my fingers as I prepare to click on *Post Message*!  
>
>
> David Marso wrote
>> Not sure if this will even post.
>> Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
>> Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> --
> Bruce Weaver
> [hidden email]
> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
>
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
>
> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/What-s-ailing-Nabble-tp5732970p5732976.html
> Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD

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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Bruce Weaver
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In reply to this post by David Marso
From Hugo at Nabble:

"We are aware of the problem. The n5 server had a problem last week and we moved the service to another machine, but the new machine can't support the load (too many users + huge database). We are working on this issue and we need a few days to find a machine that will make the service stable again.
We apologize for the issue."


David Marso wrote
Not sure if this will even post.
Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
--
Bruce Weaver
bweaver@lakeheadu.ca
http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/

"When all else fails, RTFM."

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING: 
1. My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly. To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
2. The SPSSX Discussion forum on Nabble is no longer linked to the SPSSX-L listserv administered by UGA (https://listserv.uga.edu/).
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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

David Marso
Administrator
Thanks Bruce,
I was copied by Hugo. 
I was actually able to post yesterday.
David

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Bruce Weaver [via SPSSX Discussion] <[hidden email]> wrote:
From Hugo at Nabble:

"We are aware of the problem. The n5 server had a problem last week and we moved the service to another machine, but the new machine can't support the load (too many users + huge database). We are working on this issue and we need a few days to find a machine that will make the service stable again.
We apologize for the issue."


David Marso wrote
Not sure if this will even post.
Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
--
Bruce Weaver
[hidden email]
http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/

"When all else fails, RTFM."

NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.



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Cum es damnatorum possederunt porcos iens ut salire off sanguinum cliff in abyssum?"
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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Bruce Weaver
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In reply to this post by Bruce Weaver
It still appears that posts made via Nabble for the last few days have not been delivered to the actual mailing list.  But Nabble appears to be back to normal this morning, so I'm posting this as a test to see if it does get delivered to the list.  

For those who do not use Nabble, you can see any threads you may have missed (including this one) at the link below.  

http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/


Bruce Weaver wrote
From Hugo at Nabble:

"We are aware of the problem. The n5 server had a problem last week and we moved the service to another machine, but the new machine can't support the load (too many users + huge database). We are working on this issue and we need a few days to find a machine that will make the service stable again.
We apologize for the issue."


David Marso wrote
Not sure if this will even post.
Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
--
Bruce Weaver
bweaver@lakeheadu.ca
http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/

"When all else fails, RTFM."

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING: 
1. My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly. To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
2. The SPSSX Discussion forum on Nabble is no longer linked to the SPSSX-L listserv administered by UGA (https://listserv.uga.edu/).
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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Rich Ulrich
Bruce,
From what I can see, you are stating the problem wrong.
I don't usually use Nabble, but this note is via Nabble so that you will see it.

Nabble shows 5 replies in this thread, not all of the "accepted" .  SPSSX-L  has posted 10 notes in the
thread if you are not reading by Nabble.
Not showing up in Nabble, from yesterday, there were posts from me, Rick, Ryan, and maybe one from David.

--
Rich Ulrich

> It still appears that posts made via Nabble for the last few days have not been delivered to the actual
> mailing list.  But Nabble appears to be back to normal this morning, so I'm posting this as a test to see if
> it does get delivered to the list.  

> For those who do not use Nabble, you can see any threads you may have missed (including this one) at
> the link below.  

> http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/

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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

David Marso
Administrator
In reply to this post by Ryan
From what I have received from Hugo it had to do with a server frying and a move of the site to an underpowered box
resulting in all sorts of mayhem.
Looks like it has been sorted.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Ryan Black [via SPSSX Discussion] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I noticed the list didn't seem that active recently, but I chalked it up to back-to-school prep etc. I wonder if these technical issues are related.

Ryan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes!  I'm having all of those problems too plus "unable to connect" and "too
> many users" etc.
>
> Furthermore, it looks like messages that have been successfully posted via
> Nabble in the last couple days are not being propagated to the UGA mailing
> list.  But this is testable.  *If there is anyone who does not use Nabble at
> all that is seeing this, please respond indicating that you have seen this
> message!*  ;-)
>
> Finally, I've just e-mailed Hugo (from Nabble) to alert him to the problems.
> With any luck, he'll be able to diagnose and fix the problem fairly quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
>
> p.s. - Crossing my fingers as I prepare to click on *Post Message*!  
>

>
> David Marso wrote
>> Not sure if this will even post.
>> Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
>> Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> --
> Bruce Weaver
> [hidden email]
> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
>
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
>
> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
>
> --

> View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/What-s-ailing-Nabble-tp5732970p5732976.html
> Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD
=====================
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SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
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INFO REFCARD



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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

Rudobeck, Emil (LLU)
I am not on Nabble and have received 14 emails so far about this topic. Hopefully you're working on fixing this problem so we stop receiving these emails.

E

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] on behalf of David Marso [[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: What's ailing Nabble?

From what I have received from Hugo it had to do with a server frying and a move of the site to an underpowered box
resulting in all sorts of mayhem.
Looks like it has been sorted.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Ryan Black [via SPSSX Discussion] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I noticed the list didn't seem that active recently, but I chalked it up to back-to-school prep etc. I wonder if these technical issues are related.

Ryan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes!  I'm having all of those problems too plus "unable to connect" and "too
> many users" etc.
>
> Furthermore, it looks like messages that have been successfully posted via
> Nabble in the last couple days are not being propagated to the UGA mailing
> list.  But this is testable.  *If there is anyone who does not use Nabble at
> all that is seeing this, please respond indicating that you have seen this
> message!*  ;-)
>
> Finally, I've just e-mailed Hugo (from Nabble) to alert him to the problems.
> With any luck, he'll be able to diagnose and fix the problem fairly quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
>
> p.s. - Crossing my fingers as I prepare to click on *Post Message*!  
>

>
> David Marso wrote
>> Not sure if this will even post.
>> Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
>> Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> --
> Bruce Weaver
> [hidden email]
> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
>
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
>
> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
>
> --

> View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/What-s-ailing-Nabble-tp5732970p5732976.html
> Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to
> [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD
=====================
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For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
INFO REFCARD



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Re: What's ailing Nabble?

David Marso
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Well you are subscribed to SPSSX-L.  Nabble has a portal into this list (much better UI IMNSHO).
Modify your notification preferences so you receive a daily digest rather than every posting?

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Rudobeck, Emil (LLU) [via SPSSX Discussion] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am not on Nabble and have received 14 emails so far about this topic. Hopefully you're working on fixing this problem so we stop receiving these emails.

E

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] on behalf of David Marso [[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: What's ailing Nabble?

From what I have received from Hugo it had to do with a server frying and a move of the site to an underpowered box
resulting in all sorts of mayhem.
Looks like it has been sorted.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Ryan Black [via SPSSX Discussion] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I noticed the list didn't seem that active recently, but I chalked it up to back-to-school prep etc. I wonder if these technical issues are related.

Ryan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes!  I'm having all of those problems too plus "unable to connect" and "too
> many users" etc.
>
> Furthermore, it looks like messages that have been successfully posted via
> Nabble in the last couple days are not being propagated to the UGA mailing
> list.  But this is testable.  *If there is anyone who does not use Nabble at
> all that is seeing this, please respond indicating that you have seen this
> message!*  ;-)
>
> Finally, I've just e-mailed Hugo (from Nabble) to alert him to the problems.
> With any luck, he'll be able to diagnose and fix the problem fairly quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
>
> p.s. - Crossing my fingers as I prepare to click on *Post Message*!  
>

>
> David Marso wrote
>> Not sure if this will even post.
>> Last few days have had trouble posting in the Nabble portal.
>> Anyone else experiencing Error 500 and such?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> --
> Bruce Weaver
> [hidden email]
> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
>
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
>
> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
>
> --

> View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/What-s-ailing-Nabble-tp5732970p5732976.html
> Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> =====================
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> command. To leave the list, send the command
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