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Stan Gorodenski
I have been able to create a .txt file from a .fit image file. This is
an image of a star spectrum. I then was able to read the .txt file with
SPSSX and do some processing and statistical analysis on it.  I would
like to be able to write out the processed .txt file so I can view it as
an image. Is there a way with SPSSX to write it out in .fit, .pic, .bmp,
or any of the other kinds of image file format?
Stan

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Re: Write Formats

Jon Peck
I can't imagine how this would work.  You could LIST the variables in the Viewer and then use a screen capture to make a graphic, but I don't know whether that would be what you want.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have been able to create a .txt file from a .fit image file. This is
an image of a star spectrum. I then was able to read the .txt file with
SPSSX and do some processing and statistical analysis on it.  I would
like to be able to write out the processed .txt file so I can view it as
an image. Is there a way with SPSSX to write it out in .fit, .pic, .bmp,
or any of the other kinds of image file format?
Stan

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Stan Gorodenski
Thanks, Jon. It was a long shot and I expected it cannot be done but
needed to make sure. There is one possible alternative but if I could
have done it with SPSS that would have been better.
Stan

On 9/27/2018 2:11 PM, jkpeck wrote:

> I can't imagine how this would work.  You could LIST the variables in
> the Viewer and then use a screen capture to make a graphic, but I
> don't know whether that would be what you want.
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM Stan Gorodenski <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     I have been able to create a .txt file from a .fit image file.
>     This is
>     an image of a star spectrum. I then was able to read the .txt file
>     with
>     SPSSX and do some processing and statistical analysis on it.  I would
>     like to be able to write out the processed .txt file so I can view
>     it as
>     an image. Is there a way with SPSSX to write it out in .fit, .pic,
>     .bmp,
>     or any of the other kinds of image file format?
>     Stan
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Re: Write Formats

Art Kendall
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Is this what you mean by a .fit file?
https://fileinfo.com/extension/fit

or
https://fileinfo.com/extension/fits

If so, do you mean to say you recovered repeated measures data where
variables are points along a spectrum?

Can you post an SPSS data file and a link to an example of the kind of
visualization you would like?



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Re: Write Formats

Stan Gorodenski
The links you gave is what it is, but it is not dynamically updated. All
it has is a header that contains information such as location, date the
spectrum was taken, time, etc. The header can be modified but it
requires a special program.

The SPSS data file I have that is a .txt file was created by an
astronomical program from a .fit file. Unfortunately, the reverse cannot
be done with the program. The .fit file is an image file and the .txt
file that is created by this program is just a matrix of numbers that
indicate the intensity of each camera pixel. I could try and find a link
that shows this kind of image, but it is just an image that requires a
special program that can read and display a .fit file. There is nothing
special about it just looking at the image. You could be looking at the
image of trees instead of a spectrum.
Stan

On 9/27/2018 2:25 PM, Art Kendall wrote:

> Is this what you mean by a .fit file?
> https://fileinfo.com/extension/fit
>
> or
> https://fileinfo.com/extension/fits
>
> If so, do you mean to say you recovered repeated measures data where
> variables are points along a spectrum?
>
> Can you post an SPSS data file and a link to an example of the kind of
> visualization you would like?
>
>
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Re: Write Formats

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I had never heard of FITS until now.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FITS
indicates that python supports FITS. Also it is simply a text based format.
What are you doing to the file?
Maybe what you have done is no longer a FITS formatted blob.
Have you looked into ImageJ? That is a free app that I love which supports
FITS according to the wiki.
In no case that I know will SPSS turn text into an image.



Stan Gorodenski wrote

> I have been able to create a .txt file from a .fit image file. This is
> an image of a star spectrum. I then was able to read the .txt file with
> SPSSX and do some processing and statistical analysis on it.  I would
> like to be able to write out the processed .txt file so I can view it as
> an image. Is there a way with SPSSX to write it out in .fit, .pic, .bmp,
> or any of the other kinds of image file format?
> Stan
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Re: Write Formats

David Marso
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Given this

FITS Working Group (2016-07-22). "Definition of the Flexible Image Transport
System (FITS)" (PDF). Retrieved 2018-03-05.

How in the F did you manage to read such a beast into SPSS in any meaningful
way?
Much or less to manipulate it?
 I believe ImageJ can use Fit files.


Stan Gorodenski wrote

> The links you gave is what it is, but it is not dynamically updated. All
> it has is a header that contains information such as location, date the
> spectrum was taken, time, etc. The header can be modified but it
> requires a special program.
>
> The SPSS data file I have that is a .txt file was created by an
> astronomical program from a .fit file. Unfortunately, the reverse cannot
> be done with the program. The .fit file is an image file and the .txt
> file that is created by this program is just a matrix of numbers that
> indicate the intensity of each camera pixel. I could try and find a link
> that shows this kind of image, but it is just an image that requires a
> special program that can read and display a .fit file. There is nothing
> special about it just looking at the image. You could be looking at the
> image of trees instead of a spectrum.
> Stan
>
> On 9/27/2018 2:25 PM, Art Kendall wrote:
>> Is this what you mean by a .fit file?
>> https://fileinfo.com/extension/fit
>>
>> or
>> https://fileinfo.com/extension/fits
>>
>> If so, do you mean to say you recovered repeated measures data where
>> variables are points along a spectrum?
>>
>> Can you post an SPSS data file and a link to an example of the kind of
>> visualization you would like?
>>
>>
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David Marso
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Given this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FITS
FITS Working Group (2016-07-22). "Definition of the Flexible Image Transport
System (FITS)" (PDF). Retrieved 2018-03-05.

How in the F did you manage to read such a beast into SPSS in any meaningful
way?
Much or less to manipulate it?
 I believe ImageJ can use Fit files.


Stan Gorodenski wrote

> The links you gave is what it is, but it is not dynamically updated. All
> it has is a header that contains information such as location, date the
> spectrum was taken, time, etc. The header can be modified but it
> requires a special program.
>
> The SPSS data file I have that is a .txt file was created by an
> astronomical program from a .fit file. Unfortunately, the reverse cannot
> be done with the program. The .fit file is an image file and the .txt
> file that is created by this program is just a matrix of numbers that
> indicate the intensity of each camera pixel. I could try and find a link
> that shows this kind of image, but it is just an image that requires a
> special program that can read and display a .fit file. There is nothing
> special about it just looking at the image. You could be looking at the
> image of trees instead of a spectrum.
> Stan
>
> On 9/27/2018 2:25 PM, Art Kendall wrote:
>> Is this what you mean by a .fit file?
>> https://fileinfo.com/extension/fit
>>
>> or
>> https://fileinfo.com/extension/fits
>>
>> If so, do you mean to say you recovered repeated measures data where
>> variables are points along a spectrum?
>>
>> Can you post an SPSS data file and a link to an example of the kind of
>> visualization you would like?
>>
>>
>>
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Stan Gorodenski
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It's very simple. I guess I didn't make myself clear. An astronomy
software package I have can create a .txt file from a .fit file. Then I
just read the .txt file, not the .fit file, with SPSSX. The numbers in
all the rows represent pixel intensity values, the same values that are
used in displaying an image of a .fit file. My camera is 1530 pixels
wide (and 1020 pixels high). I create 1530 variables and read each row
as an observation with the following data list statement
DATA LIST FREE file=FLATFILE
       / V1 TO V1530.
Where Flatfile is a File Handle name. A raw spectrum is just a bright
horizontal line. With SPSSX I can do some processing of the spectrum,
such as doing a dark sky subtraction and getting rid of anomalous pixel
values, such as saturated pixels or cosmic ray hit on the CCD chip (a
common occurrence). When I am done with all the processing I can create
what is called a spectral profile. The profile is the standard way to
display a spectrum. It is a graph that shows the emission and absorption
lines of the elements of a star spectrum.
Stan

On 9/27/2018 7:54 PM, David Marso wrote:

> Given this
>
> FITS Working Group (2016-07-22). "Definition of the Flexible Image Transport
> System (FITS)" (PDF). Retrieved 2018-03-05.
>
> How in the F did you manage to read such a beast into SPSS in any meaningful
> way?
> Much or less to manipulate it?
>   I believe ImageJ can use Fit files.
>
>
> Stan Gorodenski wrote
>    
>> The links you gave is what it is, but it is not dynamically updated. All
>> it has is a header that contains information such as location, date the
>> spectrum was taken, time, etc. The header can be modified but it
>> requires a special program.
>>
>> The SPSS data file I have that is a .txt file was created by an
>> astronomical program from a .fit file. Unfortunately, the reverse cannot
>> be done with the program. The .fit file is an image file and the .txt
>> file that is created by this program is just a matrix of numbers that
>> indicate the intensity of each camera pixel. I could try and find a link
>> that shows this kind of image, but it is just an image that requires a
>> special program that can read and display a .fit file. There is nothing
>> special about it just looking at the image. You could be looking at the
>> image of trees instead of a spectrum.
>> Stan
>>
>> On 9/27/2018 2:25 PM, Art Kendall wrote:
>>      
>>> Is this what you mean by a .fit file?
>>> https://fileinfo.com/extension/fit
>>>
>>> or
>>> https://fileinfo.com/extension/fits
>>>
>>> If so, do you mean to say you recovered repeated measures data where
>>> variables are points along a spectrum?
>>>
>>> Can you post an SPSS data file and a link to an example of the kind of
>>> visualization you would like?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Write Formats

Stan Gorodenski
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On 9/27/2018 7:21 PM, David Marso wrote:
> I had never heard of FITS until now.
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FITS
> indicates that python supports FITS. Also it is simply a text based format.
> What are you doing to the file?
> Maybe what you have done is no longer a FITS formatted blob.
> Have you looked into ImageJ? That is a free app that I love which supports
> FITS according to the wiki.
>    

David,
The issue is not finding something, like ImageJ, that supports fits. All
astronomy software I know of supports .fit files. The issue is
converting a .txt file to a .fit file, or if that is not possible, than
converting a .txt file to other image type files, such as .pic and  a
.bmp to name a few.
Stan


> In no case that I know will SPSS turn text into an image.
>
>
>
> Stan Gorodenski wrote
>    
>> I have been able to create a .txt file from a .fit image file. This is
>> an image of a star spectrum. I then was able to read the .txt file with
>> SPSSX and do some processing and statistical analysis on it.  I would
>> like to be able to write out the processed .txt file so I can view it as
>> an image. Is there a way with SPSSX to write it out in .fit, .pic, .bmp,
>> or any of the other kinds of image file format?
>> Stan
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