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Art Kendall
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Re: email formatting on SPSSx-l

Bruce Weaver
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Art's message looks fine in the Nabble archive, but is a real mess in the UGA list archives.  Compare the following:

http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/email-formatting-on-SPSSx-l-td3258935.html#a3258935
http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1011&L=spssx-l&F=&S=&P=14265


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Re: email formatting on SPSSx-l

Art Kendall
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If anybody uses Outlook, please let me know if you can see the variations in the previous post.

I can privately send a .pdf that shows how it comes through using Thunderbird.

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On 11/10/2010 11:10 AM, Art Kendall wrote:
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Re: email formatting on SPSSx-l

David Marso
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I am not on Outlook:  Using the UGA archives from FireFox on Win Vista.
Your posts appear as readable HTML.  Richard Ristow's come over as HTML as
well (in fact his are even messier with an abundance of &nbsp elements all
over the place -particularly in quoted text- [making many posts completely
unreadable]).  It seems that UGA does NOT alter the raw HTML nor strip any
HTML tags so what might look fine in Nabble looks like utter crap in UGA.
I don't know what the answer is, but I wonder if it is too much to ask
(probably most definitely) that people compose and post messages using a
plain text editor?  I doubt very much that UGA will do any changes on there
end wrt HTML formatting.
Take a look at this message for example:
http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1010&L=spssx-l&F=&S=&P=39860
Below is an extract:

|-----------------------------|---------------------------|<br>
|Output
Created&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|21-OCT-2010 18:26:41&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<br>
|-----------------------------|---------------------------|<br>
varA varB varC&nbsp; varD<br><br>
&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp; 1000<br>
&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0<br>
&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0<br>
&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
100<br>
&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0<br><br>
&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0<br>
&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&

David

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Create missing value with DATA LIST

ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON

Hello, I'm trying to create some data with missing values


DATA LIST FREE
/antes (F2.0) despues (F2.0).
BEGIN DATA
11 16
12 17
.  12
15 18
7  13
8  10
9  9
12 14
16 18
13 20
12 17
11 15
END DATA.

I get the following mesage:

Warning # 1102
An invalid numeric field has been found.  The result has been set to the
system-missing value.
Command line: 230  Current case: 3  Current splitfile group: 1
Field contents: '.'
Record number: 3  Starting column: 1  Record length: 5

 
But the results are as I want: third case first value missing

Is there any way to specify the missing value within the DATA LIST - END DATA?

Thanks

Andrés


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Coordinador de Análisis e Informática
Unidad de Medición de la Calidad Educativa
Ministerio de Educación del Perú
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Re: email formatting on SPSSx-l

John F Hall
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Art
 
I'm on Outlook Express and everyting comes through fine.
 
John
 
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Subject: email formatting on SPSSx-l

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Re: email formatting on SPSSx-l

zstatman
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Outlook 2003 Win XP Sp3 and all looks as should
 

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From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Art Kendall
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:37 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: email formatting on SPSSx-l

If anybody uses Outlook, please let me know if you can see the variations in the previous post.

I can privately send a .pdf that shows how it comes through using Thunderbird.

Art Kendall
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On 11/10/2010 11:10 AM, Art Kendall wrote:
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Re: Create missing value with DATA LIST

Bruce Weaver
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Hi Andres.  Notice that you received a warning message, not  an error message.  So there is nothing wrong with your syntax.  

If you want a version that won't produce a warning, substitute a user-defined missing value where you currently have the system missing value.  Normally, a user-defined missing value is way out of  range for valid values so that is recognizable should you forget to define it as missing.  It looks like all of your valid values are positive 2-digit numbers.  So you could use 999 or -999, for example.  But you'd need to change the variable format to something bigger than F2.0.  E.g.,

DATA LIST FREE / antes despues (2F5.0).
BEGIN DATA
11 16
12 17
-999  12
15 18
7  13
8  10
9  9
12 14
16 18
13 20
12 17
11 15
END DATA.

missing values antes despues (-999).
value labels antes despues -999 'Missing'.

HTH.


ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON wrote
Hello, I'm trying to create some data with missing values


DATA LIST FREE
/antes (F2.0) despues (F2.0).
BEGIN DATA
11 16
12 17
.  12
15 18
7  13
8  10
9  9
12 14
16 18
13 20
12 17
11 15
END DATA.

I get the following mesage:

Warning # 1102
An invalid numeric field has been found.  The result has been set to the
system-missing value.
Command line: 230  Current case: 3  Current splitfile group: 1
Field contents: '.'
Record number: 3  Starting column: 1  Record length: 5

 
But the results are as I want: third case first value missing

Is there any way to specify the missing value within the DATA LIST - END
DATA?

Thanks

Andrés


Mg. Andrés Burga León
Coordinador de Análisis e Informática
Unidad de Medición de la Calidad Educativa
Ministerio de Educación del Perú
Calle El Comercio s/n (espalda del Museo de la Nación)
Lima 41
Perú
Teléfono 615-5840
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Re: Create missing value with DATA LIST

Rick Oliver-3
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You can just ignore the warning, or do something like this:

data list list  (",") /antes despues (2F2).
begin data
11, 16
12, 17
, 12
15, 18
...
etc.
end data.

The quoted delimiter doesn't have to be a comma.


From: ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Date: 11/10/2010 11:23 AM
Subject: Create missing value with DATA LIST
Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>






Hello, I'm trying to create some data with missing values



DATA LIST FREE

/antes (F2.0) despues (F2.0).

BEGIN DATA

11 16

12 17

.  12

15 18

7  13

8  10

9  9
12 14

16 18

13 20

12 17

11 15

END DATA.


I get the following mesage:


Warning # 1102

An invalid numeric field has been found.  The result has been set to the

system-missing value.

Command line: 230  Current case: 3  Current splitfile group: 1

Field contents: '.'

Record number: 3  Starting column: 1  Record length: 5


 

But the results are as I want: third case first value missing


Is there any way to specify the missing value within the DATA LIST - END DATA?


Thanks


Andrés



Mg. Andrés Burga León
Coordinador de Análisis e Informática
Unidad de Medición de la Calidad Educativa
Ministerio de Educación del Perú
Calle El Comercio s/n (espalda del Museo de la Nación)
Lima 41
Perú
Teléfono 615-5840


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Re: Create missing value with DATA LIST

Bruce Weaver
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That's interesting.  I didn't know that using a delimiter would make the warning go away.  Thanks for the lesson, Rick.


Rick Oliver wrote
You can just ignore the warning, or do something like this:

data list list  (",") /antes despues (2F2).
begin data
11, 16
12, 17
, 12
15, 18
...
etc.
end data.

The quoted delimiter doesn't have to be a comma.



From:
ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON <aburgal@minedu.gob.pe>
To:
SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Date:
11/10/2010 11:23 AM
Subject:
Create missing value with DATA LIST
Sent by:
"SPSSX(r) Discussion" <SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>




Hello, I'm trying to create some data with missing values


DATA LIST FREE
/antes (F2.0) despues (F2.0).
BEGIN DATA
11 16
12 17
.  12
15 18
7  13
8  10
9  9
12 14
16 18
13 20
12 17
11 15
END DATA.

I get the following mesage:

Warning # 1102
An invalid numeric field has been found.  The result has been set to the
system-missing value.
Command line: 230  Current case: 3  Current splitfile group: 1
Field contents: '.'
Record number: 3  Starting column: 1  Record length: 5

 
But the results are as I want: third case first value missing

Is there any way to specify the missing value within the DATA LIST - END
DATA?

Thanks

Andrés


Mg. Andrés Burga León
Coordinador de Análisis e Informática
Unidad de Medición de la Calidad Educativa
Ministerio de Educación del Perú
Calle El Comercio s/n (espalda del Museo de la Nación)
Lima 41
Perú
Teléfono 615-5840
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http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/

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Re: Create missing value with DATA LIST

Vlad Lopez
Andres,
Rick's code also works if you use space as delimiter in your original data, but don't define missing with a dot.

data list list  (" ") /antes despues (2F2).
begin data
11 16
12 17 
  12
15 18
7  13
8  10
9  9
12 14
16 18
13 20
12 17
11 15
END DATA.
 
Saludos,
 
vlp
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
That's interesting.  I didn't know that using a delimiter would make the
warning go away.  Thanks for the lesson, Rick.



Rick Oliver wrote:
>
> You can just ignore the warning, or do something like this:
>
> data list list  (",") /antes despues (2F2).
> begin data
> 11, 16
> 12, 17

> , 12
> 15, 18
> ...
> etc.
> end data.
>
> The quoted delimiter doesn't have to be a comma.
>
>
>
> From:
> ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON <[hidden email]>
> To:
> [hidden email]
> Date:
> 11/10/2010 11:23 AM
> Subject:
> Create missing value with DATA LIST
> Sent by:
> "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
>

>
>
>
> Hello, I'm trying to create some data with missing values
>
>
> DATA LIST FREE
> /antes (F2.0) despues (F2.0).
> BEGIN DATA
> 11 16
> 12 17
> .  12

> 15 18
> 7  13
> 8  10
> 9  9
> 12 14
> 16 18
> 13 20
> 12 17
> 11 15
> END DATA.
>
> I get the following mesage:
>
> Warning # 1102
> An invalid numeric field has been found.  The result has been set to the
> system-missing value.
> Command line: 230  Current case: 3  Current splitfile group: 1
> Field contents: '.'
> Record number: 3  Starting column: 1  Record length: 5
>
>
> But the results are as I want: third case first value missing
>
> Is there any way to specify the missing value within the DATA LIST - END
> DATA?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrés
>
>
> Mg. Andrés Burga León
> Coordinador de Análisis e Informática
> Unidad de Medición de la Calidad Educativa
> Ministerio de Educación del Perú
> Calle El Comercio s/n (espalda del Museo de la Nación)
> Lima 41
> Perú
> Teléfono 615-5840
>
>
>


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Re: Create missing value with DATA LIST

Ruben Geert van den Berg
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Hi Bruce (and others)!

1) Even with the F1 format, Bruce's suggestions seems to work fine:

DATA LIST FREE / antes despues (2F1).
BEGIN DATA
11 16
12 17
-999 12
END DATA.

2) In data list FREE, this seems to work too

DATA LIST FREE / antes despues (2F1).
BEGIN DATA
11 16
12 17
''' 12
15 18
7 13
END DATA.

Best,

Ruben

> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:39:42 -0800
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Create missing value with DATA LIST
> To: [hidden email]
>
> That's interesting. I didn't know that using a delimiter would make the
> warning go away. Thanks for the lesson, Rick.
>
>
>
> Rick Oliver wrote:
> >
> > You can just ignore the warning, or do something like this:
> >
> > data list list (",") /antes despues (2F2).
> > begin data
> > 11, 16
> > 12, 17
> > , 12
> > 15, 18
> > ...
> > etc.
> > end data.
> >
> > The quoted delimiter doesn't have to be a comma.
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > ANDRES ALBERTO BURGA LEON <[hidden email]>
> > To:
> > [hidden email]
> > Date:
> > 11/10/2010 11:23 AM
> > Subject:
> > Create missing value with DATA LIST
> > Sent by:
> > "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello, I'm trying to create some data with missing values
> >
> >
> > DATA LIST FREE
> > /antes (F2.0) despues (F2.0).
> > BEGIN DATA
> > 11 16
> > 12 17
> > . 12
> > 15 18
> > 7 13
> > 8 10
> > 9 9
> > 12 14
> > 16 18
> > 13 20
> > 12 17
> > 11 15
> > END DATA.
> >
> > I get the following mesage:
> >
> > Warning # 1102
> > An invalid numeric field has been found. The result has been set to the
> > system-missing value.
> > Command line: 230 Current case: 3 Current splitfile group: 1
> > Field contents: '.'
> > Record number: 3 Starting column: 1 Record length: 5
> >
> >
> > But the results are as I want: third case first value missing
> >
> > Is there any way to specify the missing value within the DATA LIST - END
> > DATA?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrés
> >
> >
> > Mg. Andrés Burga León
> > Coordinador de Análisis e Informática
> > Unidad de Medición de la Calidad Educativa
> > Ministerio de Educación del Perú
> > Calle El Comercio s/n (espalda del Museo de la Nación)
> > Lima 41
> > Perú
> > Teléfono 615-5840
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> -----
> --
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> [hidden email]
> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/
>
> "When all else fails, RTFM."
>
> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly.
> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above.
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