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Zdaniuk, Bozena
Hello, I have a file with multiple rows (4) for each subject, each row with a var value for a particular data point. I want to create a set of individual 'spaghetti' graphs mapping these 4 values for each subject. Any suggestions how I can do it in SPSS or where should I look for instructions? Thanks so much.
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marta García-Granero
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:30 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Significance testing between R-square from linear and R-square from curvilinear regression (Revised).

Hi:

Steiger's homepage:
http://www.unav.es/genetica/new/soft.html#misc

And Multicorr page:
http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/steiger/multi.htm

Anyway, the links in this page are wrong (they point to a
nonexisting ftp site). I found out that the correct links for
multicorr program & documentation are:
- Program: http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/steiger/multicor.zip
- Manual:  http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/steiger/multicor.pdf

HTH, Marta

SPR> Steiger's multicor program will do that.

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SPR> hypothesis as a pattern hypothesis testable by MULTICORR. For a recent
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SPR> References
SPR> Olkin, I., and Finn, J.D. (1995). Correlations redux. Psychological
SPR> Bulletin, 118, 155-164.
SPR> Steiger, J.H. (1979). Multicorr: a computer program for fast, accurate,
SPR> small-sample tests of correlational pattern hypotheses. Educational and
SPR> Psychological Measurement, 39, 677-680.
SPR> Steiger, J.H. (1980). Tests for comparing elements of a correlation
SPR> matrix. Psychological Bulletin, 87, 245-251.
SPR> Steiger, J.H., & Browne, M.W. (1984). The comparison of interdependent
SPR> correlations between optimal linear composites. Psychometrika, 49,
SPR> 11-21. "


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SPR> Subject: Significance testing between R-square from linear and R-square
SPR> from curvilinear regression (Revised).

SPR>  Hi, I want to clarify my question in previous question.

SPR> I have two variables,  X: time (11 time points) and Y: means of
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SPR> I expect that exponential function will fit better than a linear
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SPR> I found a formular in Blalock (1972). But it requires correlation
SPR> between Y and transformed Y.

SPR> Should I do time series analysis?

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Beadle, ViAnn
I googled spaghetti graph but the hits seemed to be about ecological modeling or path diagrams. Could you be a bit more specific or provide a URL to a similar example?

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:22 AM
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Subject: individual graphs of change

Hello, I have a file with multiple rows (4) for each subject, each row with a var value for a particular data point. I want to create a set of individual 'spaghetti' graphs mapping these 4 values for each subject. Any suggestions how I can do it in SPSS or where should I look for instructions? Thanks so much.
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]
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Zdaniuk, Bozena
Let's say I have 20 participants, each with four rows of data for var1
and a variable Time with values 1-4 marking what time was each value
collected at. I would like a graph with values of the var1 on y axis and
values of Time on x axis and 20 lines on the graph showing the values of
var1 at each time point for each of the participants. Any ideas how to
do it in SPSS? Thanks!
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


-----Original Message-----
From: Beadle, ViAnn [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:34 PM
To: Zdaniuk, Bozena; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: individual graphs of change

I googled spaghetti graph but the hits seemed to be about ecological
modeling or path diagrams. Could you be a bit more specific or provide a
URL to a similar example?

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:22 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: individual graphs of change

Hello, I have a file with multiple rows (4) for each subject, each row
with a var value for a particular data point. I want to create a set of
individual 'spaghetti' graphs mapping these 4 values for each subject.
Any suggestions how I can do it in SPSS or where should I look for
instructions? Thanks so much.
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]
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Re: individual graphs of change

Melissa Ives
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I think this needs a 'wide' (horizontal) dataset (one row per client
with 4 vars instead of a 'long' (vertical) 4 rows per client dataset.

Use CASETOVARS to convert then you should be able to do a chart of the 4
vars by time.

Melissa

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:47 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] individual graphs of change

Let's say I have 20 participants, each with four rows of data for var1
and a variable Time with values 1-4 marking what time was each value
collected at. I would like a graph with values of the var1 on y axis and
values of Time on x axis and 20 lines on the graph showing the values of
var1 at each time point for each of the participants. Any ideas how to
do it in SPSS? Thanks!
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


-----Original Message-----
From: Beadle, ViAnn [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:34 PM
To: Zdaniuk, Bozena; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: individual graphs of change

I googled spaghetti graph but the hits seemed to be about ecological
modeling or path diagrams. Could you be a bit more specific or provide a
URL to a similar example?

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:22 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: individual graphs of change

Hello, I have a file with multiple rows (4) for each subject, each row
with a var value for a particular data point. I want to create a set of
individual 'spaghetti' graphs mapping these 4 values for each subject.
Any suggestions how I can do it in SPSS or where should I look for
instructions? Thanks so much.
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

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Zdaniuk, Bozena
I was thinking about it. But I still don't know how to create a number
of separate lines for each participant on the same graph...
bozena
-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Melissa Ives
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: individual graphs of change

I think this needs a 'wide' (horizontal) dataset (one row per client
with 4 vars instead of a 'long' (vertical) 4 rows per client dataset.

Use CASETOVARS to convert then you should be able to do a chart of the 4
vars by time.

Melissa

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:47 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] individual graphs of change

Let's say I have 20 participants, each with four rows of data for var1
and a variable Time with values 1-4 marking what time was each value
collected at. I would like a graph with values of the var1 on y axis and
values of Time on x axis and 20 lines on the graph showing the values of
var1 at each time point for each of the participants. Any ideas how to
do it in SPSS? Thanks!
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


-----Original Message-----
From: Beadle, ViAnn [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:34 PM
To: Zdaniuk, Bozena; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: individual graphs of change

I googled spaghetti graph but the hits seemed to be about ecological
modeling or path diagrams. Could you be a bit more specific or provide a
URL to a similar example?

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:22 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: individual graphs of change

Hello, I have a file with multiple rows (4) for each subject, each row
with a var value for a particular data point. I want to create a set of
individual 'spaghetti' graphs mapping these 4 values for each subject.
Any suggestions how I can do it in SPSS or where should I look for
instructions? Thanks so much.
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


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Zdaniuk, Bozena
In reply to this post by Melissa Ives
Ok, I finally figured out what I want to do. I apologize for the
half-a**ed previous posts.
I want separate regression lines for each subject, all on one graph. I
know how to run separate regression for each subject using BREAK BY ID
command but I don't know how to get all the individual regression lines
on one graph. I know how to request it in HLM but I would like to be
able to do it in SPSS. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Bozena


Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Melissa Ives
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: individual graphs of change

I think this needs a 'wide' (horizontal) dataset (one row per client
with 4 vars instead of a 'long' (vertical) 4 rows per client dataset.

Use CASETOVARS to convert then you should be able to do a chart of the 4
vars by time.

Melissa

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:47 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] individual graphs of change

Let's say I have 20 participants, each with four rows of data for var1
and a variable Time with values 1-4 marking what time was each value
collected at. I would like a graph with values of the var1 on y axis and
values of Time on x axis and 20 lines on the graph showing the values of
var1 at each time point for each of the participants. Any ideas how to
do it in SPSS? Thanks!
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


-----Original Message-----
From: Beadle, ViAnn [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:34 PM
To: Zdaniuk, Bozena; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: individual graphs of change

I googled spaghetti graph but the hits seemed to be about ecological
modeling or path diagrams. Could you be a bit more specific or provide a
URL to a similar example?

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:22 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: individual graphs of change

Hello, I have a file with multiple rows (4) for each subject, each row
with a var value for a particular data point. I want to create a set of
individual 'spaghetti' graphs mapping these 4 values for each subject.
Any suggestions how I can do it in SPSS or where should I look for
instructions? Thanks so much.
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


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Re: individual graphs of change

Maguin, Eugene
Bozena,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you must be working on a
multilevel analysis and you want to see either the individual points plotted
by perons and then connected with lines or the individual regression lines
through those points. Specific examples of both of these are described in
Judith Singer's book. Unfortunately, mine is at home.

Gene
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Beadle, ViAnn
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You have two sets of group dimensions here--per participant (20) and per value of the 4 vars. Crossing them would give you 80 lines on your chart. I guess that truly would be a mess of spaghetti.  Is that what you want?

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:07 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: individual graphs of change

I was thinking about it. But I still don't know how to create a number
of separate lines for each participant on the same graph...
bozena
-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Melissa Ives
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: individual graphs of change

I think this needs a 'wide' (horizontal) dataset (one row per client
with 4 vars instead of a 'long' (vertical) 4 rows per client dataset.

Use CASETOVARS to convert then you should be able to do a chart of the 4
vars by time.

Melissa

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:47 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] individual graphs of change

Let's say I have 20 participants, each with four rows of data for var1
and a variable Time with values 1-4 marking what time was each value
collected at. I would like a graph with values of the var1 on y axis and
values of Time on x axis and 20 lines on the graph showing the values of
var1 at each time point for each of the participants. Any ideas how to
do it in SPSS? Thanks!
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


-----Original Message-----
From: Beadle, ViAnn [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:34 PM
To: Zdaniuk, Bozena; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: individual graphs of change

I googled spaghetti graph but the hits seemed to be about ecological
modeling or path diagrams. Could you be a bit more specific or provide a
URL to a similar example?

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:22 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: individual graphs of change

Hello, I have a file with multiple rows (4) for each subject, each row
with a var value for a particular data point. I want to create a set of
individual 'spaghetti' graphs mapping these 4 values for each subject.
Any suggestions how I can do it in SPSS or where should I look for
instructions? Thanks so much.
Bozena

Bozena Zdaniuk, Ph.D.

University of Pittsburgh

UCSUR, 6th Fl.

121 University Place

Pittsburgh, PA 15260

Ph.: 412-624-5736

Fax: 412-624-4810

email: [hidden email]


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Re: individual graphs of change

Zdaniuk, Bozena
In reply to this post by Maguin, Eugene
Thanks, Gene. I have the book and I found the syntax. It's done using
igraph. Now I have to go search through our list's archives to figure
out the case limit for igraphs. I have 1200 cases (times 4 time points)
and the igraph function I tried to run hung up on me instantly. I
vaguely recall there was a discussion already on the case limits of
igraph functions. Thanks again to all who helped me work through that.
b.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Gene Maguin
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:48 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: individual graphs of change

Bozena,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you must be working on a
multilevel analysis and you want to see either the individual points
plotted
by perons and then connected with lines or the individual regression
lines
through those points. Specific examples of both of these are described
in
Judith Singer's book. Unfortunately, mine is at home.

Gene
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individual graphs of change

Anthony Babinec
You can do individual trajectories using the Chart Builder in SPSS 15. NOTE
that I have not pushed this "to the limit" with large datasets, but here's a
small example.

Consider two patients with a number of seizures noted over consecutive
2-week periods. Here are the data.

 Id Time Seizures
101    1       11
101    2       14
101    3        9
101    4        8
102    1        8
102    2        7
102    3        9
102    4        4

Make sure that ID has its MEASURE set to NOMINAL, while the others are set
to SCALE.

Then, you do a scatterplot of Seizures by Time, with ID as a GroupColor
variable. After you generate the Chart, edit it and add interpolation lines.


* Chart Builder.
GGRAPH
  /GRAPHDATASET NAME="graphdataset" VARIABLES=time seizure id MISSING=
  LISTWISE REPORTMISSING=NO
  /GRAPHSPEC SOURCE=INLINE.
BEGIN GPL
 SOURCE: s=userSource(id("graphdataset"))
 DATA: time=col(source(s), name("time"))
 DATA: seizure=col(source(s), name("seizure"))
 DATA: id=col(source(s), name("id"), unit.category())
 GUIDE: axis(dim(1), label("time"))
 GUIDE: axis(dim(2), label("seizure"))
 GUIDE: legend(aesthetic(aesthetic.color.exterior), label("id"))
 SCALE: cat(aesthetic(aesthetic.color.exterior))
 ELEMENT: point(position(time*seizure), color.exterior(id))
END GPL.


-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Zdaniuk, Bozena
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:00 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: individual graphs of change

Thanks, Gene. I have the book and I found the syntax. It's done using
igraph. Now I have to go search through our list's archives to figure
out the case limit for igraphs. I have 1200 cases (times 4 time points)
and the igraph function I tried to run hung up on me instantly. I
vaguely recall there was a discussion already on the case limits of
igraph functions. Thanks again to all who helped me work through that.
b.

-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Gene Maguin
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:48 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: individual graphs of change

Bozena,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you must be working on a
multilevel analysis and you want to see either the individual points
plotted
by perons and then connected with lines or the individual regression
lines
through those points. Specific examples of both of these are described
in
Judith Singer's book. Unfortunately, mine is at home.

Gene