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Dear listers,
I'd like to find a syntax/procedure for sampling from 2 vars, 2 samples with the same means. Do you have some suggestions, please? Thanks in advance C. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Cristiano,
If you haven't received a useful reply from somebody, could you give more information on your problem. I can't quite visualize what you want to do. Gene Maguin >> I'd like to find a syntax/procedure for sampling from 2 vars, 2 samples with the same means. Do you have some suggestions, please? Thanks in advance C. ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Listers,
There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
Re: cannot copy and paste from spss
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What release?
-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pirritano, Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: cannot copy and paste from spss Listers, There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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I'm using 17.0.1.
Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Email: [hidden email] ________________________________ From: ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:58:17 PM Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss What release? -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pirritano, Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: cannot copy and paste from spss Listers, There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Ditto here - tried this with a 2gb file, selected the first two cases
and first two columnar data. System returns a "timeout waiting for server response" message. I am using v17.0 (not patched). Mike -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Pirritano Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:22 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss I'm using 17.0.1. Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Email: [hidden email] ________________________________ From: ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:58:17 PM Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss What release? -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pirritano, Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: cannot copy and paste from spss Listers, There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Try this:
 File>  Cache>    Cache Data Now  Then copy and paste.  George --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:23 AM Ditto here - tried this with a 2gb file, selected the first two cases and first two columnar data. System returns a "timeout waiting for server response" message. I am using v17.0 (not patched). Mike -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Pirritano Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:22 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss I'm using 17.0.1. Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Email: [hidden email] ________________________________ From: ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:58:17 PM Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss What release? -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pirritano, Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: cannot copy and paste from spss Listers, There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ====================To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi George,
Thank you for the tip. I tried doing the "cache data now" but SPSS ver. 17.0 still freezes up. I did notice that with smaller file sizes, (<14 mill. Cases (500mb), and without caching the data), I do not have this problem, but with a file of 35 million cases (2gb), the problem occurs. The entire system also begins to get very sluggish, even after I shut down SPSS, almost as if resources are still being used for SPSS(?) I did notice that if I scroll to the bottom of the file and wait for the cells to populate (don't see the "?") any more, but the actual data are displayed, I can copy and paste, so I think it may be memory related, although I do have 2gb RAM. None of these issues occur with version 14. My system is an XP (SP3) box with a 3.4ghz processor, 2gb RAM, 160+SATA hdd, running Outlook concurrently. Do you have any idea of how I may "flush" the system memory so once I shut down SPSS, my system does not remain sluggish? TIA Mike From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:08 AM To: [hidden email]; Roberts, Michael Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss Try this: File> Cache> Cache Data Now Then copy and paste. George --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:23 AM Ditto here - tried this with a 2gb file, selected the first two cases and first two columnar data. System returns a "timeout waiting for server response" message. I am using v17.0 (not patched). Mike -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Pirritano Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:22 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss I'm using 17.0.1. Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Email: [hidden email] ________________________________ From: ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:58:17 PM Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss What release? -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pirritano, Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: cannot copy and paste from spss Listers, There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ====================To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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For flushing I've had good luck with going to my temp and spsstemp
folders and deleting their contents. There's also a nice program called 'Cleanup!' which even makes a nice flushing sound when you run it. It cleans out trash, temporary internet files etc. Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roberts, Michael Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss Hi George, Thank you for the tip. I tried doing the "cache data now" but SPSS ver. 17.0 still freezes up. I did notice that with smaller file sizes, (<14 mill. Cases (500mb), and without caching the data), I do not have this problem, but with a file of 35 million cases (2gb), the problem occurs. The entire system also begins to get very sluggish, even after I shut down SPSS, almost as if resources are still being used for SPSS(?) I did notice that if I scroll to the bottom of the file and wait for the cells to populate (don't see the "?") any more, but the actual data are displayed, I can copy and paste, so I think it may be memory related, although I do have 2gb RAM. None of these issues occur with version 14. My system is an XP (SP3) box with a 3.4ghz processor, 2gb RAM, 160+SATA hdd, running Outlook concurrently. Do you have any idea of how I may "flush" the system memory so once I shut down SPSS, my system does not remain sluggish? TIA Mike From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:08 AM To: [hidden email]; Roberts, Michael Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss Try this: File> Cache> Cache Data Now Then copy and paste. George --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:23 AM Ditto here - tried this with a 2gb file, selected the first two cases and first two columnar data. System returns a "timeout waiting for server response" message. I am using v17.0 (not patched). Mike -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Pirritano Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:22 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss I'm using 17.0.1. Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Email: [hidden email] ________________________________ From: ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:58:17 PM Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss What release? -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pirritano, Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: cannot copy and paste from spss Listers, There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ======= To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hello Matthew and Mike,
I have not been able to replicate the problem. I can copy and paste 6 cells within the data editor for a 2.2 gb file (40m cases and 50 variables), running SPSS 17.0.1 in XP (SP 2) with 3.5 gb RAM. (I've only tried 6 cells so far.) I have asked some colleagues on the environmental side of technical support to look further into the problem and will post their response. David Matheson SPSS Statistical Support -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roberts, Michael Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss Hi George, Thank you for the tip. I tried doing the "cache data now" but SPSS ver. 17.0 still freezes up. I did notice that with smaller file sizes, (<14 mill. Cases (500mb), and without caching the data), I do not have this problem, but with a file of 35 million cases (2gb), the problem occurs. The entire system also begins to get very sluggish, even after I shut down SPSS, almost as if resources are still being used for SPSS(?) I did notice that if I scroll to the bottom of the file and wait for the cells to populate (don't see the "?") any more, but the actual data are displayed, I can copy and paste, so I think it may be memory related, although I do have 2gb RAM. None of these issues occur with version 14. My system is an XP (SP3) box with a 3.4ghz processor, 2gb RAM, 160+SATA hdd, running Outlook concurrently. Do you have any idea of how I may "flush" the system memory so once I shut down SPSS, my system does not remain sluggish? TIA Mike From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:08 AM To: [hidden email]; Roberts, Michael Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss Try this: File> Cache> Cache Data Now Then copy and paste. George --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:23 AM Ditto here - tried this with a 2gb file, selected the first two cases and first two columnar data. System returns a "timeout waiting for server response" message. I am using v17.0 (not patched). Mike -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Pirritano Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:22 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss I'm using 17.0.1. Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Email: [hidden email] ________________________________ From: ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:58:17 PM Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss What release? -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pirritano, Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: cannot copy and paste from spss Listers, There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ======= To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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Hi David,
Thank you for looking into this issue. Can you let us know whether SPSS v17 uses the OS memory allocation process or has its own internal memory manager? Thanking You Sincerely Mike -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matheson, David Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:37 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss Hello Matthew and Mike, I have not been able to replicate the problem. I can copy and paste 6 cells within the data editor for a 2.2 gb file (40m cases and 50 variables), running SPSS 17.0.1 in XP (SP 2) with 3.5 gb RAM. (I've only tried 6 cells so far.) I have asked some colleagues on the environmental side of technical support to look further into the problem and will post their response. David Matheson SPSS Statistical Support -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roberts, Michael Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss Hi George, Thank you for the tip. I tried doing the "cache data now" but SPSS ver. 17.0 still freezes up. I did notice that with smaller file sizes, (<14 mill. Cases (500mb), and without caching the data), I do not have this problem, but with a file of 35 million cases (2gb), the problem occurs. The entire system also begins to get very sluggish, even after I shut down SPSS, almost as if resources are still being used for SPSS(?) I did notice that if I scroll to the bottom of the file and wait for the cells to populate (don't see the "?") any more, but the actual data are displayed, I can copy and paste, so I think it may be memory related, although I do have 2gb RAM. None of these issues occur with version 14. My system is an XP (SP3) box with a 3.4ghz processor, 2gb RAM, 160+SATA hdd, running Outlook concurrently. Do you have any idea of how I may "flush" the system memory so once I shut down SPSS, my system does not remain sluggish? TIA Mike From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:08 AM To: [hidden email]; Roberts, Michael Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss Try this: File> Cache> Cache Data Now Then copy and paste. George --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Roberts, Michael <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:23 AM Ditto here - tried this with a 2gb file, selected the first two cases and first two columnar data. System returns a "timeout waiting for server response" message. I am using v17.0 (not patched). Mike -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Pirritano Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:22 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss I'm using 17.0.1. Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Email: [hidden email] ________________________________ From: ViAnn Beadle <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:58:17 PM Subject: Re: cannot copy and paste from spss What release? -----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pirritano, Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:40 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: cannot copy and paste from spss Listers, There are FOUR cells that I have tried to copy and paste from SPSS. Just four little cells. Every time I try - SPSS crashes! Of course I can just copy down the content of these cells and then enter them manually. But the principle of the thing! It's just FOUR little cells. Wh should this make SPSS crash? I should state that the file is about 1.5 GB. There is no indication that the processor is busy before I try this. I select, hit copy, and then the little hour glass appears and spss freezes. I shall look to see if there's a patch I'm missing. Thanks Matt Matthew Pirritano, Ph.D. Research Analyst IV Medical Services Initiative (MSI) Orange County Health Care Agency (714) 834-3566 ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD ======= To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. 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Are you talking about drawing samples from a pop with the same pop means?
open a new instance of SPSS. Copy the syntax below. Paste it into a syntax window and run it. Is this what you mean? new file. set seed = 20090116. *generate 2 random integers with same pop mean. *sample means will be indistinguishable unless you go to a lot of decimal places. INPUT PROGRAM. LOOP id=1 TO 3000. COMPUTE x = rv.normal(0,1). COMPUTE IX = rnd(x). COMPUTE y = rv.normal(0,2). COMPUTE Iy = rnd(y). END CASE. END LOOP. END FILE. END INPUT PROGRAM. FORMATS id (F3.0) ix iy (f1). compute constant=1. AGGREGATE outfile=* /break = constant /meanx = mean(x) /meany = mean(y). formats meanx,meany (f5). LIST . formats meanx,meany (f5.1). LIST . formats meanx,meany (f5.2). LIST . formats meanx,meany (f5.3). LIST . formats meanx,meany (f10.8). LIST . Art Kendall Social Research consultants Gene Maguin wrote: > Cristiano, > > If you haven't received a useful reply from somebody, could you give more > information on your problem. I can't quite visualize what you want to do. > > Gene Maguin > > >>> I'd like to find a syntax/procedure for sampling from 2 vars, 2 samples >>> > with the same means. > > Do you have some suggestions, please? > > Thanks in advance > > C. > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > > ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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Please explain in more detail what you are trying to do. What is the
context in which you are trying to do it? What constitutes a cases in the population you are interested in? What is the nature of the variables? Do you have a population list from which you want to draw the samples? Art Kendall Social Research Consultants Cristiano wrote: > Thanks Art Kendall, but I'd like to drawing samples from 2 vars that > have same means, Like it: mean(sample1_var1) = 10 and > mean(sample2_var2) = 11. Two samples with about same mean. > > Thanks again ! > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Art Kendall <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > Are you talking about drawing samples from a pop with the same pop > means? > > open a new instance of SPSS. Copy the syntax below. Paste it into a > syntax window and run it. > Is this what you mean? > > new file. > set seed = 20090116. > *generate 2 random integers with same pop mean. > *sample means will be indistinguishable unless you go to a lot of > decimal places. > INPUT PROGRAM. > LOOP id=1 TO 3000. > COMPUTE x = rv.normal(0,1). > COMPUTE IX = rnd(x). > COMPUTE y = rv.normal(0,2). > COMPUTE Iy = rnd(y). > END CASE. > END LOOP. > END FILE. > END INPUT PROGRAM. > FORMATS id (F3.0) ix iy (f1). > compute constant=1. > AGGREGATE outfile=* /break = constant > /meanx = mean(x) > /meany = mean(y). > formats meanx,meany (f5). > LIST . > formats meanx,meany (f5.1). > LIST . > formats meanx,meany (f5.2). > LIST . > formats meanx,meany (f5.3). > LIST . > formats meanx,meany (f10.8). > LIST . > > > Art Kendall > Social Research consultants > > > Gene Maguin wrote: > > Cristiano, > > If you haven't received a useful reply from somebody, could > you give more > information on your problem. I can't quite visualize what you > want to do. > > Gene Maguin > > > I'd like to find a syntax/procedure for sampling from > 2 vars, 2 samples > > with the same means. > > Do you have some suggestions, please? > > Thanks in advance > > C. > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > > > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> (not > to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD > > ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD |
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