v19 -opening files via windows explorer
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I'm old school and use Windows Explorer to open and close files.
When I open up a .sps file, a new, empty .sav file automatically opens up.
When i close the empty data file, the syntax file automatically closes.
I pull up the data file that i want to use and close the empty data file, the syntax file also closes.
The only way I can not have this empty data file open is to go through the SPSS menus to open up.
I've searched through every Edit-Options tab and have not found a way to "unlink" my syntax file to an empty data file.
Does anyone know how to accomplish this?
Sorry if this is so 2010.
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Carole SPSS always needs an open working file, even if it’s an empty one. I always open *.sav files by double-clicking them. This never opens a blank data editor, but (with very few exceptions) I invariably work in syntax in preference to the GUI and have SPSS set always to open a blank syntax file on startup. The working file then has a * before the data editor name. The advantage of this is that the data editor is subsequently always saved to the same folder as the original. If I open SPSS by clicking on the shortcut icon and then click Cancel, I get a blank syntax file and a blank data editor, but I only ever do this in tutorials to demonstrate how SPSS works. The only exception would be if I was reading in raw data with DATA LIST or copying data from another source (eg Excel, or from a query on the list). I’ve just followed your procedure and opened SPSS file by double-clicking an existing *.sps file: this opens a second, blank, syntax editor and a blank data editor. I then opened an existing *.sav file by double-clicking and closed the blank data editor. As you say, the blank syntax editor disappears, but I would never use SPSS like this anyway as I always start by double-clicking an existing *.sav file. This isn’t a problem since, if I want a new syntax editor, and provided I have an open data editor, all I have to do is click on File > New > Syntax in the GUI. If I modify the working file I always save it with a different name using File > Save as ..(quicker in GUI than syntax, and the SAVE OUT syntax is automatically created in the output viewer). Does this answer your question? John F Hall From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Parise, Carol A. I'm old school and use Windows Explorer to open and close files. When I open up a .sps file, a new, empty .sav file automatically opens up. When i close the empty data file, the syntax file automatically closes. I pull up the data file that i want to use and close the empty data file, the syntax file also closes. The only way I can not have this empty data file open is to go through the SPSS menus to open up. I've searched through every Edit-Options tab and have not found a way to "unlink" my syntax file to an empty data file. Does anyone know how to accomplish this? Sorry if this is so 2010. |
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Hi John,
If you have your working data
file open, double click on your working
syntax file, a blank data file comes up. When you close that blank data file, does your working syntax file also
close?
I can't close that empty
data file without the working syntax file also closing.
From: John F Hall [[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 9:31 PM To: Parise, Carol A.; [hidden email] Subject: RE: v19 -opening files via windows explorer Carole
SPSS always needs an open working file, even if it’s an empty one. I always open *.sav files by double-clicking them. This never opens a blank data editor, but (with very few exceptions) I invariably work in syntax in preference to the GUI and have SPSS set always to open a blank syntax file on startup. The working file then has a * before the data editor name. The advantage of this is that the data editor is subsequently always saved to the same folder as the original.
If I open SPSS by clicking on the shortcut icon and then click Cancel, I get a blank syntax file and a blank data editor, but I only ever do this in tutorials to demonstrate how SPSS works. The only exception would be if I was reading in raw data with DATA LIST or copying data from another source (eg Excel, or from a query on the list).
I’ve just followed your procedure and opened SPSS file by double-clicking an existing *.sps file: this opens a second, blank, syntax editor and a blank data editor. I then opened an existing *.sav file by double-clicking and closed the blank data editor. As you say, the blank syntax editor disappears, but I would never use SPSS like this anyway as I always start by double-clicking an existing *.sav file.
This isn’t a problem since, if I want a new syntax editor, and provided I have an open data editor, all I have to do is click on File > New > Syntax in the GUI. If I modify the working file I always save it with a different name using File > Save as ..(quicker in GUI than syntax, and the SAVE OUT syntax is automatically created in the output viewer).
Does this answer your question?
John F Hall
From: SPSSX(r)
Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Parise, Carol
A.
I'm old school and use Windows Explorer to open and close files.
When I open up a .sps file, a new, empty .sav file automatically opens up.
When i close the empty data file, the syntax file automatically closes.
I pull up the data file that i want to use and close the empty data file, the syntax file also closes.
The only way I can not have this empty data file open is to go through the SPSS menus to open up.
I've searched through every Edit-Options tab and have not found a way to "unlink" my syntax file to an empty data file.
Does anyone know how to accomplish this?
Sorry if this is so 2010.
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Please clarify.
If you have your working data file open, double click on your working syntax file,does that mean "If you have your working data file open, double click on your working syntax file in windows explorer," that the syntax is NOT YET a working syntax file? or that you are clicking the file in windows explorer that is already a working syntax file to open a second copy? Art Kendall Social Research Consultants On 11/14/2011 12:19 PM, Parise, Carol A. wrote: ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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Yes. I open my working data file in windows explorer, i
then open up my working syntax file in windows explorer and a blank data file
comes up with the syntax file. So i now have my working data file, working
syntax file, and a blank data file open. If i close the blank data file, my
working syntax file also closes. It is like the blank data file is linked to the
'untitled' blank data file. From: Art Kendall [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:52 AM To: Parise, Carol A. Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] v19 -opening files via windows explorer If you have your working data file open, double click on your working syntax file,does that mean "If you have your working data file open, double click on your working syntax file in windows explorer," that the syntax is NOT YET a working syntax file? or that you are clicking the file in windows explorer that is already a working syntax file to open a second copy? Art Kendall Social Research Consultants On 11/14/2011 12:19 PM, Parise, Carol A. wrote:
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If in windows explorer I double click a .sav file for a project and
make it a working data file, then in windows explorer double click a
corresponding .sps file from the same project to make it a working
syntax file, I do not get a blank data file.
If I understood correctly, I was not able to duplicate your problem. I have 64-bit Version 19 with all updates, and Windows 7 home premium with all updates. Hope this helps to narrow down the circumstances in which the problem occurs. Art On 11/14/2011 1:00 PM, Parise, Carol A. wrote: ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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Do you happen to have some syntax that is automated
to run when SPSS srts up?
Art On 11/14/2011 1:00 PM, Parise, Carol A. wrote: ===================== To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to [hidden email] (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO REFCARD
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Thanks Art. I'm having a few other glitches running 19
including getting the help Topics window to populate. I'm running Windows XP
Table PC edition. I'm scheduled for a new computer in a few weeks and I'm hoping
some of these glitches will just go away since the new machine will have
double the RAM and have a faster processor than this one.
I'm anxiously awaiting the new computer but i'm not looking
forward to having to get on the SPSS website to figure out how to deal with
the license issue of uninstalling from one machine and
installing on another - half of a morning shot to hell.
Carol
From: Art Kendall [mailto:[hidden email]]
If in windows explorer I double click a .sav file for a project
and make it a working data file, then in windows explorer double click a
corresponding .sps file from the same project to make it a working syntax
file, I do not get a blank data file.Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:19 AM To: Parise, Carol A. Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] v19 -opening files via windows explorer If I understood correctly, I was not able to duplicate your problem. I have 64-bit Version 19 with all updates, and Windows 7 home premium with all updates. Hope this helps to narrow down the circumstances in which the problem occurs. Art On 11/14/2011 1:00 PM, Parise, Carol A. wrote:
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No i don't.
From: Art Kendall
[mailto:[hidden email]]
Do you happen to have some syntax that is automated to
run when SPSS srts up?Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:25 AM To: Parise, Carol A. Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] v19 -opening files via windows explorer Art On 11/14/2011 1:00 PM, Parise, Carol A. wrote:
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This exchange has had the snips removed, but the sense is still there. I’ll edit the other off-list exchange with Carol and post that as well. From: John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]] Carol I get the same as you when I double-click an existing sps file (before SPSS startup). Never noticed that before as I always open sav files first. The new working files must be associated in some way, which explains why the working file changes to Untitled2. I’m sure Jon Peck will have an explanation. Can’t copy this to the list as it won’t accept snips, but I’ll edit it and the others and post them to the list. If I then open an existing sav file, both syntax files remain open, but Untitled1 data editor disappears. I don’t think this is unique to 19. Your other problem with display speed is probably to do with your machine. I have a very fast machine (no idea of tech details) Windows7, 4gb RAM and dual core, but the Topics display still took a while to fill up. I always use the syntax reference guide which I keep on my desktop and which is much quicker. John From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Parise, Carol A. No i don't. From: Art Kendall [mailto:[hidden email]] Do you happen to have some syntax that is automated to run when SPSS srts up? Yes. I open my working data file in windows explorer, i then open up my working syntax file in windows explorer and a blank data file comes up with the syntax file. So i now have my working data file, working syntax file, and a blank data file open. If i close the blank data file, my working syntax file also closes. It is like the blank data file is linked to the 'untitled' blank data file. From: Art Kendall [[hidden email]] Please clarify. If you have your working data file open, double click on your working syntax file, does that mean Hi John, If you have your working data file open, double click on your working syntax file, a blank data file comes up. When you close that blank data file, does your working syntax file also close? I can't close that empty data file without the working syntax file also closing. From: John F Hall [[hidden email]] Carole SPSS always needs an open working file, even if it’s an empty one. I always open *.sav files by double-clicking them. This never opens a blank data editor, but (with very few exceptions) I invariably work in syntax in preference to the GUI and have SPSS set always to open a blank syntax file on startup. The working file then has a * before the data editor name. The advantage of this is that the data editor is subsequently always saved to the same folder as the original. If I open SPSS by clicking on the shortcut icon and then click Cancel, I get a blank syntax file and a blank data editor, but I only ever do this in tutorials to demonstrate how SPSS works. The only exception would be if I was reading in raw data with DATA LIST or copying data from another source (eg Excel, or from a query on the list). I’ve just followed your procedure and opened SPSS file by double-clicking an existing *.sps file: this opens a second, blank, syntax editor and a blank data editor. I then opened an existing *.sav file by double-clicking and closed the blank data editor. As you say, the blank syntax editor disappears, but I would never use SPSS like this anyway as I always start by double-clicking an existing *.sav file. This isn’t a problem since, if I want a new syntax editor, and provided I have an open data editor, all I have to do is click on File > New > Syntax in the GUI. If I modify the working file I always save it with a different name using File > Save as ..(quicker in GUI than syntax, and the SAVE OUT syntax is automatically created in the output viewer). Does this answer your question? John F Hall From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Parise, Carol A. I'm old school and use Windows Explorer to open and close files. When I open up a .sps file, a new, empty .sav file automatically opens up. When i close the empty data file, the syntax file automatically closes. I pull up the data file that i want to use and close the empty data file, the syntax file also closes. The only way I can not have this empty data file open is to go through the SPSS menus to open up. I've searched through every Edit-Options tab and have not found a way to "unlink" my syntax file to an empty data file. Does anyone know how to accomplish this? Sorry if this is so 2010. |
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Even when i open the working data
file first, when i open my working syntax file, untitled 1.sav comes up and when i close it my working syntax file closes with it.
I don't remember
this happening in my previous
versions so i tested this by opening
up the same files using SPSS 14 and no blank file comes up when the
working syntax file is opened in windows
explorer.
It then dawened on me
that some of the other issues i'm having may be due to having both versions
installed?? From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John F Hall Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:26 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: v19 -opening files via windows explorer This
exchange has had the snips removed, but the sense is still there. I’ll
edit the other off-list exchange with Carol and post that as
well. From:
John F Hall [mailto:[hidden email]] Carol I
get the same as you when I double-click an existing sps file (before SPSS
startup). Never noticed that before as I always open sav files
first. The new working files must be associated in some way, which
explains why the working file changes to Untitled2. I’m sure Jon Peck will
have an explanation. Can’t copy this to the list as it won’t accept
snips, but I’ll edit it and the others and post them to the
list. If
I then open an existing sav file, both syntax files remain open, but Untitled1
data editor disappears. I
don’t think this is unique to 19. Your
other problem with display speed is probably to do with your machine. I
have a
very fast machine (no idea of tech details) Windows7, 4gb
RAM and dual core, but the Topics display still took a while to fill up. I
always use the syntax reference guide which I keep on my desktop and which is
much quicker. John From:
SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Parise, Carol A. No i
don't. From: Art Kendall
[mailto:[hidden email]] Do you happen to have some
syntax that is automated to run when SPSS srts up? Yes. I
open my working data file in windows explorer, i then open up my working syntax
file in windows explorer and a blank data file comes up with the syntax file. So
i now have my working data file, working syntax file, and a blank data file
open. If i close the blank data file, my working syntax file also closes. It is
like the blank data file is linked to the 'untitled' blank data
file. From: Art
Kendall [[hidden email]]
Please clarify. If you have your working data file open, double
click on your working syntax file, does that mean Hi
John, If you
have your working data file open, double click on your working syntax
file, a blank data file comes up. When you close that blank data
file, does your working syntax file also close? I can't close that
empty data file without the working syntax file also closing. From: John F Hall [[hidden email]] Carole SPSS
always needs an open working file, even if it’s an empty one. I always
open *.sav files by double-clicking them. This never opens a blank data
editor, but (with very few exceptions) I invariably work in syntax in preference
to the GUI and have SPSS set always to open a blank syntax file on startup.
The working file then has a * before the data editor name. The
advantage of this is that the data editor is subsequently always saved to the
same folder as the original. If
I open SPSS by clicking on the shortcut icon and then click Cancel, I get a
blank syntax file and a blank data editor, but I only ever do this in tutorials
to demonstrate how SPSS works. The only exception would be if I was
reading in raw data with DATA LIST or copying data from another source (eg
Excel, or from a query on the list). I’ve
just followed your procedure and opened SPSS file by double-clicking an existing
*.sps file: this opens a second, blank, syntax editor and a blank data
editor. I then opened an existing *.sav file by double-clicking and closed
the blank data editor. As you say, the blank syntax editor disappears, but
I would never use SPSS like this anyway as I always start by double-clicking an
existing *.sav file. This
isn’t a problem since, if I want a new syntax editor, and provided I have an
open data editor, all I have to do is click on File > New > Syntax in the
GUI. If I modify the working file I always save it with a different name
using File > Save as ..(quicker in GUI than syntax, and the SAVE OUT syntax
is automatically created in the output viewer). Does
this answer your question? John
F Hall From: SPSSX(r)
Discussion [[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Parise, Carol A. I'm old school and
use Windows Explorer to open and close files. When I open up a .sps
file, a new, empty .sav file automatically opens up.
When i close the
empty data file, the syntax file automatically closes.
I pull up the data
file that i want to use and close the empty data file, the syntax file also
closes. The only way I can
not have this empty data file open is to go through the SPSS menus to open
up. I've searched through
every Edit-Options tab and have not found a way to "unlink" my syntax file to an
empty data file. Does anyone know how
to accomplish this? Sorry if this is so
2010. |
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