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Leila Tajik
Dear all,

Hello,

I have developed an instrument (questionnaire) in which a scenario is followed by four different reactions. The respondents need to choose one of those reactions as their dominant response in that particular occasion (each reaction exemplifies a particular approach). The research question I'm going to respond is if there is any relationship between respondents' gender (and some other variables) and their choice of particular approaches. The problem I have is in validating this questionnaire. May I run factor analysis by turning the questionnaire into a Likert scale in which the respondents read each reaction and then identify on the Likert scale the extent to which they might exhibit each reaction in that particular occasion (mentioned in the scenario)? Then, the questionnaire seems something like this:

    

 

      Scenario 1

 

  •  

Dominant

reaction

Reactions

Always do

Often do

Undecided

Sometimes do

Never do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


This way each reaction works as a separate item in SPSS and the scenarios are left.

I will highly appreciate your insights.

Leila Tajik
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Re: validating a questionnaire

John F Hall
Leila
 
Factor analysis is a bit previous: you need to start with frequencies etc. for each item.
 
You need to pilot your questionnaire on a few people first.
 
Off the cuff I suggest you run the battery of scenarios as it is, without asking for dominant reaction, then present a listing of the possible reactions and ask something like:
 
Regardless of the answers you've just given, which of the items on this card would you be most likely to do?
 
 
 
....and which next?
 
Is your questionnaire online, by self-completion or by personal interview (by phone or face-to-face)?
 
Assuming self-completion or on-line, something like this
 

Scenario 1
 
For each of the following, please circle the answer which best applies to you:
 
                                    Always do    Sometimes do    Sometimes do    Never do        Not sure  
 
Reaction 1                        4                        3                            2                    1                        9
 
Reaction 2                        4                        3                            2                    1                        9
 
Reaction 3                        4                        3                            2                    1                        9
 
Reaction 4                        4                        3                            2                    1                        9
 
...and which of the above are you most likely to do?
 
                                           Reaction 1    Reaction 2    Reaction 3    Reaction 4    None of these.
 
                                                1                        2                            3                    4                    0
 

 
Repeat for each scenario
 
Here's an example of a self-completion questionnaire used in a survey of 15-16 year olds.
 

 

 

 

 

 



 

This example is from my website http://surveyresearch.weebly.com  where you will find extensive syntax-based tutorials on SPSS for survey analysis.  This particular questionnaire and data set are included in Introduction to COUNT and COMPUTE.  Everything is freely downloadable.

 

Remember, many respondents are pretty poor at assessing their own priorities.

 

Hope I haven't been doing your assessment work for you!  Good luck.

 

John Hall

 

 

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Subject: validating a questionnaire

Dear all,

Hello,

I have developed an instrument (questionnaire) in which a scenario is followed by four different reactions. The respondents need to choose one of those reactions as their dominant response in that particular occasion (each reaction exemplifies a particular approach). The research question I'm going to respond is if there is any relationship between respondents' gender (and some other variables) and their choice of particular approaches. The problem I have is in validating this questionnaire. May I run factor analysis by turning the questionnaire into a Likert scale in which the respondents read each reaction and then identify on the Likert scale the extent to which they might exhibit each reaction in that particular occasion (mentioned in the scenario)? Then, the questionnaire seems something like this:

    

 

      Scenario 1

 

Dominant

reaction

Reactions

Always do

Often do

Undecided

Sometimes do

Never do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


This way each reaction works as a separate item in SPSS and the scenarios are left.

I will highly appreciate your insights.

Leila Tajik
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Re: validating a questionnaire

James Whanger
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Dear Leila,

That first thing you need to consider is -- what is validity?  A good place to begin reading about the nature of validity is Denny Borsboom http://sites.google.com/site/borsboomdenny/papers. From his references you can find most of the major work on validity during the 20th century. 

His perspective is that it is important to have a theoretical and conceptual argument for why responses measure whatever it is we have designed them to measure.  Thus, to be logically defensible, it is important to narrowly define what that is.  In your case you might argue that you are measuring distal behavioral intentions.  You may also be interested in the predictive ability of your questionnaire and in that case you would want to know the strength of the relationship between your questionnaire and a set of behavioral outcomes similar to the scenarios themselves.  In other words  -- does a particular answer or set of answers increase the probability of engaging in that behavior at a later time, does it reduce the probability, or are the distal behavioral intentions unrelated?

To your questionnaire specifically -- the decision about whether to use a Likert type response scale versus one exclusively anchored by potential  behaviors is important because each has different cognitive requirements and thus result in arguably different constructs.  Does the Likert scale provide important information that covers more of the intended conceptual space of your construct or does it potentially confuse the respondent and increase measurement error?

You can certainly do what you propose, but I recommend spending some time thinking about the nature of validity as you move forward with your research.

Best regards,

Jim




On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Leila Tajik <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear all,

Hello,

I have developed an instrument (questionnaire) in which a scenario is followed by four different reactions. The respondents need to choose one of those reactions as their dominant response in that particular occasion (each reaction exemplifies a particular approach). The research question I'm going to respond is if there is any relationship between respondents' gender (and some other variables) and their choice of particular approaches. The problem I have is in validating this questionnaire. May I run factor analysis by turning the questionnaire into a Likert scale in which the respondents read each reaction and then identify on the Likert scale the extent to which they might exhibit each reaction in that particular occasion (mentioned in the scenario)? Then, the questionnaire seems something like this:

    

 

      Scenario 1

 

  •  

Dominant

reaction

Reactions

Always do

Often do

Undecided

Sometimes do

Never do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


This way each reaction works as a separate item in SPSS and the scenarios are left.

I will highly appreciate your insights.

Leila Tajik



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Re: validating a questionnaire

SR Millis-3
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I'd recommend that you use Rasch analysis to examine the psychometric characteristic of your questionnaire---rather than factor analysis.

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From: Leila Tajik <[hidden email]>
Subject: validating a questionnaire
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 2:17 AM

Dear all,

Hello,

I have developed an instrument (questionnaire) in which a scenario is followed by four different reactions. The respondents need to choose one of those reactions as their dominant response in that particular occasion (each reaction exemplifies a particular approach). The research question I'm going to respond is if there is any relationship between respondents' gender (and some other variables) and their choice of particular approaches. The problem I have is in validating this questionnaire. May I run factor analysis by turning the questionnaire into a Likert scale in which the respondents read each reaction and then identify on the Likert scale the extent to which they might exhibit each reaction in that particular occasion (mentioned in the scenario)? Then, the questionnaire seems something like this:

    

 

      Scenario 1

 

  •  

Dominant

reaction

Reactions

Always do

Often do

Undecided

Sometimes do

Never do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


This way each reaction works as a separate item in SPSS and the scenarios are left.

I will highly appreciate your insights.

Leila Tajik
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Re: validating a questionnaire

Wang Xu-4
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why factor analysis is better choice than factor analysis in validating questionnaire? thanks a lot!



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Re: validating a questionnaire

SR Millis-3
I'm confused by your question:
 
why is a factor analysis better than a factor analysis?!
 
SR Millis

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why factor analysis is better choice than factor analysis in validating questionnaire? thanks a lot!



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Re: validating a questionnaire

Bruce Weaver
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There must be some really bad jokes that play on "rash" versus "Rasch".  Let's not be Rasch here, etc.  Does anyone know any?  ;-)



SR Millis wrote
I'd recommend that you use Rasch analysis to examine the psychometric characteristic of your questionnaire---rather than factor analysis.

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Professor & Director of Research
Dept of Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation
Dept of Emergency Medicine
Wayne State University School of Medicine
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Detroit, MI 48201
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Email: srmillis@yahoo.com
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Fax: 313-966-7682

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Leila Tajik <leilatajik9@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Leila Tajik <leilatajik9@gmail.com>
Subject: validating a questionnaire
To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 2:17 AM


Dear all,

Hello,

I have developed an instrument (questionnaire) in which a scenario is followed by four different reactions. The respondents need to choose one of those reactions as their dominant response in that particular occasion (each reaction exemplifies a particular approach). The research question I'm going to respond is if there is any relationship between respondents' gender (and some other variables) and their choice of particular approaches. The problem I have is in validating this questionnaire. May I run factor analysis by turning the questionnaire into a Likert scale in which the respondents read each reaction and then identify on the Likert scale the extent to which they might exhibit each reaction in that particular occasion (mentioned in the scenario)? Then, the questionnaire seems something like this:

    




 
      Scenario 1
 

 


Dominant
reaction

Reactions

Always do

Often do

Undecided

Sometimes do

Never do


 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 
This way each reaction works as a separate item in SPSS and the scenarios are left.

I will highly appreciate your insights.

Leila Tajik
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Moving variables

Humphrey Paulie
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Dear all,
I have just installed SPSS 18. I was using 15 before.
In the 18 version when you want to move the verablies across from one column to another with the arrow, it seems that you need to to it one by one. It doesn't allow you to highlight all of them and do it all in one click. This is a nuisance when you have  200 variables. Is there a trick for this that I don't know?
They are supposed to make life easier as they get updated not harder.
Cheers
Humphrey

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Re: Moving variables

Ruben Geert van den Berg
Dear Humphrey,
 
I was unable to replicate your finding. In data view, I can select one or many columns (variables) and drag and drop them in order to move them. When I have selected them and keep my (left) mouse button pressed, an icon appears that suggests that this is a useless action but I can drag and drop them anyway, both in V17.0.3 as well as in v18.0.0.
 
However, in order to change the order of variables in a dataset I'd always use
 
match files file *
/keep v1 v3 v2.
execute.
 
Since some syntax depends on the order of your variables, it may be wise to include a reordering of your variables in your syntax so your work stays replicable.
 
Best regards and have a shiny happy weekend!

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Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:07:53 -0700
From: [hidden email]
Subject: Moving variables
To: [hidden email]


Dear all,
I have just installed SPSS 18. I was using 15 before.
In the 18 version when you want to move the verablies across from one column to another with the arrow, it seems that you need to to it one by one. It doesn't allow you to highlight all of them and do it all in one click. This is a nuisance when you have  200 variables. Is there a trick for this that I don't know?
They are supposed to make life easier as they get updated not harder.
Cheers
Humphrey



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Re: Moving variables

Art Kendall
match files file *
/keep v1 v3 v2 ALL.
execute.

On 5/28/2010 7:15 AM, Ruben van den Berg wrote:
Dear Humphrey,
 
I was unable to replicate your finding. In data view, I can select one or many columns (variables) and drag and drop them in order to move them. When I have selected them and keep my (left) mouse button pressed, an icon appears that suggests that this is a useless action but I can drag and drop them anyway, both in V17.0.3 as well as in v18.0.0.
 
However, in order to change the order of variables in a dataset I'd always use
 
match files file *
/keep v1 v3 v2.
execute.
 
Since some syntax depends on the order of your variables, it may be wise to include a reordering of your variables in your syntax so your work stays replicable.
 
Best regards and have a shiny happy weekend!

Ruben van den Berg

Methodologist

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P: +31 20 522 5738

I: www.tns-nipo.com




 

Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:07:53 -0700
From: [hidden email]
Subject: Moving variables
To: [hidden email]


Dear all,
I have just installed SPSS 18. I was using 15 before.
In the 18 version when you want to move the verablies across from one column to another with the arrow, it seems that you need to to it one by one. It doesn't allow you to highlight all of them and do it all in one click. This is a nuisance when you have  200 variables. Is there a trick for this that I don't know?
They are supposed to make life easier as they get updated not harder.
Cheers
Humphrey



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Comparing standard deviations

Humphrey Paulie

Dear all,

I have several tests which have different number of questions (from 20 to 100) so the maximum possible score on each test form is different. Therefore, I cannot compare the standard deviations of the samples who have taken each test form. What can I do to bring the standard deviations onto the same scale and make them comparable? I want to know which test has spread the subjectes more widely.

Cheers

Humphrey




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Re: Comparing standard deviations

William B. Ware
How about the "coefficient of variation?" It is defined as the standard
deviation divided by the mean...

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On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Humphrey Paulie wrote:

>
> Dear all,
>
> I have several tests which have different number of questions (from 20 to
> 100) so the maximum possible score on each test form is different.
> Therefore, I cannot compare the standard deviations of the samples who have
> taken each test form. What can I do to bring the standard deviations onto
> the same scale and make them comparable? I want to know which test has
> spread the subjectes more widely.
>
> Cheers
>
> Humphrey
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Comparing standard deviations

Marta Garcia-Granero
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I agree with William. You should compare CV.

Take a look at this paper (sorry, you'll have to download each page one
by one...).

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?seq=3&view=pdf&size=100&id=umn.31951d03009506q&u=1&num=1

HTH,
Marta GG

Humphrey Paulie escribió:

>
> Dear all,
>
> I have several tests which have different number of questions (from 20
> to 100) so the maximum possible score on each test form is different.
> Therefore, I cannot compare the standard deviations of the samples who
> have taken each test form. What can I do to bring the standard
> deviations onto the same scale and make them comparable? I want to
> know which test has spread the subjectes more widely.
>
> Cheers
>
> Humphrey
>
>
>
>


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Re: Comparing standard deviations

Lukas Fehrenbach-2
This is a better link, where you can download the complete paper mentioned above

http://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/31993

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2010/6/1 Marta García-Granero <[hidden email]>
I agree with William. You should compare CV.

Take a look at this paper (sorry, you'll have to download each page one
by one...).

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?seq=3&view=pdf&size=100&id=umn.31951d03009506q&u=1&num=1

HTH,
Marta GG

Humphrey Paulie escribió:


Dear all,

I have several tests which have different number of questions (from 20
to 100) so the maximum possible score on each test form is different.
Therefore, I cannot compare the standard deviations of the samples who
have taken each test form. What can I do to bring the standard
deviations onto the same scale and make them comparable? I want to
know which test has spread the subjectes more widely.

Cheers

Humphrey






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Re: Moving variables

Langston, Eric
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Humphrey

 

Dragging and dropping variables became more cumbersome starting in v16 and hasn’t gotten much better in v18. I have spoken to SPSS support about this and they gave me a bit of help, though there was still a bit that was unresolved.

 

If you are going to drag and drop variables, it is better to do so in Variable View rather than Data View – that is to say, it is better to drag and drop when the variables look like rows rather than columns.  For whatever reason, it is less processor intensive and the overall behavior of the GUI is easier to work with when in Variable View. 

 

The issue that I noticed between “pre v16” (v15 and earlier) and “post v16” (v16, v17, v18) was the speed with which you can drag the variables.  In “pre v16”, if you drag a variable from the end of the file to the beginning of the file, the drag speed appears to have an acceleration and a max speed – for lack of a specific value, I’ll just call it “very fast”.  In “post v16”, if you drag a variable from the end of the file to the beginning of the file, the drag speed appears to not have an acceleration and the speed is “pretty slow”.  There is a significant change in GUI behavior as well.  In “pre v16”, you can drag your cursor arrow the top of the screen in Variable View (or the left of the screen in Data View) – which triggers the “very fast” drag speed.  In “post v16”, you can only drag your cursor to the top of the area that displays the variables (or the left of the area that displays the data).  After you pass that ‘line’ in Variable View, then the drag speed comes to an immediate halt if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable number OR it jumps to the beginning of the file if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable name, type, etc.   After you pass that ‘line’ in Data View, then the drag speed comes to an immediate halt if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable name OR it jumps to the beginning of the file if your cursor is in the area that shows your data.  The “jumps to the beginning of the file” behavior does not work for going to the end of the file.

 

Also in “post v16”, if you are dragging and dropping variables in Data View, selecting multiple columns doesn’t always work on the first try.  Specifically, if I drag a drop a variable (putting v4 before v3 for example), then I can’t immediately select multiple variables.  This gets a bit confusing with just words, so here’s an example with variables names.  Suppose I have v1 through v10 in the usual order.  Suppose I want to move v4 before v3 and then I want to move v5 through v8 before v2.  If I first move v4 before v3, I cannot immediately select v5 & v6.  I would first have to select some other variable – but not the variable that I want to start dragging from.  So, select v7.  Then, select v5 through  v8 and drag them to before v2.  I am not sure if there are other circumstances that you can’t immediately select multiple variables in Data View, but this is at least one that I can replicate.

 

So, if you just need to move variables a short distance, then drag and drop is fine.  If you need to move a variable to the beginning of a file, then drag and drop is fine.  If you need to move a variable to the middle or end of the file, then you should use the syntax Ruben suggested.  This, by the way, is the bit that was unresolved that I made reference to, because the drag and drop functionality was previously able to handle this case in a timely manner, but is now best suited to be handled via syntax.

 

I hope that helps,

-Eric

 

 

 

 

 

Syntax to define a file with 1001 variables – just so you can play around with moving variables a long distance.

 

new file.

data list /First 1.

begin data

1

end data.

dataset name temp window=front.

vector v (F8.0, 1000).

 

 

 

 

 

From: Ruben van den Berg [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Moving variables

 

Dear Humphrey,
 
I was unable to replicate your finding. In data view, I can select one or many columns (variables) and drag and drop them in order to move them. When I have selected them and keep my (left) mouse button pressed, an icon appears that suggests that this is a useless action but I can drag and drop them anyway, both in V17.0.3 as well as in v18.0.0.
 
However, in order to change the order of variables in a dataset I'd always use
 
match files file *
/keep v1 v3 v2.
execute.
 
Since some syntax depends on the order of your variables, it may be wise to include a reordering of your variables in your syntax so your work stays replicable.
 
Best regards and have a shiny happy weekend!

Ruben van den Berg

Methodologist

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Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:07:53 -0700
From: [hidden email]
Subject: Moving variables
To: [hidden email]


Dear all,
I have just installed SPSS 18. I was using 15 before.
In the 18 version when you want to move the verablies across from one column to another with the arrow, it seems that you need to to it one by one. It doesn't allow you to highlight all of them and do it all in one click. This is a nuisance when you have  200 variables. Is there a trick for this that I don't know?
They are supposed to make life easier as they get updated not harder.
Cheers
Humphrey

 


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Re: Comparing standard deviations

Maguin, Eugene
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Humphrey, William, Marta,

When I read this the first thing that I thought of was that you (Humphrey)
should calculate the score as the mean of the items because that would fix
the range problem--provided all the tests have the same response format. And
from that I thought you could compare the standard deviations. But then it
occurred to me that the SDs are going to be slightly different for different
numbers of items.

My reasoning is this: Suppose the response format is the same for all forms,
e.g.,1-5, a perfectly symmetric distribution for each item would give the
same scale mean irrespective of the number of items. But, and I have not
proof of this, just an intuition, the standard deviations for tests of
varying lengths, even if the items have perfectly symmetric distributions,
will be different because the distribution of scores for a long test is
different from that for a short test because there is more possible values,
and that will result in different standard deviations. At what decimal point
it begin to matter, I don't know. If my reasoning is correct, it is only
correct, I think, a for categorical response format. I don't think it would
be true for a truly continuous response format.

Is my thinking on this faulty? And, if my reasoning is correct, does using
the CV actually fix this problem?

Gene Maguin




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Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:16 AM
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Subject: Re: Comparing standard deviations

How about the "coefficient of variation?" It is defined as the standard
deviation divided by the mean...

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On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Humphrey Paulie wrote:

>
> Dear all,
>
> I have several tests which have different number of questions (from 20 to
> 100) so the maximum possible score on each test form is different.
> Therefore, I cannot compare the standard deviations of the samples who
have

> taken each test form. What can I do to bring the standard deviations onto
> the same scale and make them comparable? I want to know which test has
> spread the subjectes more widely.
>
> Cheers
>
> Humphrey
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Moving variables

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Eric,
 
Thanks very much for this - it is invaluable to me as I drag and drop variables quite frequently and explains the "different" SPSS behavior through the last few versions.
 
Can you clarify 1 further point?  If I need to drop a variable in the middle of the file you recommend using the "keep" syntax.  Do I need to restate all the variables occurring before the point where I want to drop that variable in the keep statement?  Or is there an easier way?
 
Thanks,
George

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From: Langston, Eric <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Moving variables
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Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 11:01 AM

Humphrey

 

Dragging and dropping variables became more cumbersome starting in v16 and hasn’t gotten much better in v18. I have spoken to SPSS support about this and they gave me a bit of help, though there was still a bit that was unresolved.

 

If you are going to drag and drop variables, it is better to do so in Variable View rather than Data View – that is to say, it is better to drag and drop when the variables look like rows rather than columns.  For whatever reason, it is less processor intensive and the overall behavior of the GUI is easier to work with when in Variable View. 

 

The issue that I noticed between “pre v16” (v15 and earlier) and “post v16” (v16, v17, v18) was the speed with which you can drag the variables.  In “pre v16”, if you drag a variable from the end of the file to the beginning of the file, the drag speed appears to have an acceleration and a max speed – for lack of a specific value, I’ll just call it “very fast”.  In “post v16”, if you drag a variable from the end of the file to the beginning of the file, the drag speed appears to not have an acceleration and the speed is “pretty slow”.  There is a significant change in GUI behavior as well.  In “pre v16”, you can drag your cursor arrow the top of the screen in Variable View (or the left of the screen in Data View) – which triggers the “very fast” drag speed.  In “post v16”, you can only drag your cursor to the top of the area that displays the variables (or the left of the area that displays the data).  After you pass that ‘line’ in Variable View, then the drag speed comes to an immediate halt if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable number OR it jumps to the beginning of the file if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable name, type, etc.   After you pass that ‘line’ in Data View, then the drag speed comes to an immediate halt if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable name OR it jumps to the beginning of the file if your cursor is in the area that shows your data.  The “jumps to the beginning of the file” behavior does not work for going to the end of the file.

 

Also in “post v16”, if you are dragging and dropping variables in Data View, selecting multiple columns doesn’t always work on the first try.  Specifically, if I drag a drop a variable (putting v4 before v3 for example), then I can’t immediately select multiple variables.  This gets a bit confusing with just words, so here’s an example with variables names.  Suppose I have v1 through v10 in the usual order.  Suppose I want to move v4 before v3 and then I want to move v5 through v8 before v2.  If I first move v4 before v3, I cannot immediately select v5 & v6.  I would first have to select some other variable – but not the variable that I want to start dragging from.  So, select v7.  Then, select v5 through  v8 and drag them to before v2.  I am not sure if there are other circumstances that you can’t immediately select multiple variables in Data View, but this is at least one that I can replicate.

 

So, if you just need to move variables a short distance, then drag and drop is fine.  If you need to move a variable to the beginning of a file, then drag and drop is fine.  If you need to move a variable to the middle or end of the file, then you should use the syntax Ruben suggested.  This, by the way, is the bit that was unresolved that I made reference to, because the drag and drop functionality was previously able to handle this case in a timely manner, but is now best suited to be handled via syntax.

 

I hope that helps,

-Eric

 

 

 

 

 

Syntax to define a file with 1001 variables – just so you can play around with moving variables a long distance.

 

new file.

data list /First 1.

begin data

1

end data.

dataset name temp window=front.

vector v (F8.0, 1000).

 

 

 

 

 

From: Ruben van den Berg [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Moving variables

 

Dear Humphrey,
 
I was unable to replicate your finding. In data view, I can select one or many columns (variables) and drag and drop them in order to move them. When I have selected them and keep my (left) mouse button pressed, an icon appears that suggests that this is a useless action but I can drag and drop them anyway, both in V17.0.3 as well as in v18.0.0.
 
However, in order to change the order of variables in a dataset I'd always use
 
match files file *
/keep v1 v3 v2.
execute.
 
Since some syntax depends on the order of your variables, it may be wise to include a reordering of your variables in your syntax so your work stays replicable.
 
Best regards and have a shiny happy weekend!

Ruben van den Berg

Methodologist

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Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:07:53 -0700
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Subject: Moving variables
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Dear all,
I have just installed SPSS 18. I was using 15 before.
In the 18 version when you want to move the verablies across from one column to another with the arrow, it seems that you need to to it one by one. It doesn't allow you to highlight all of them and do it all in one click. This is a nuisance when you have  200 variables. Is there a trick for this that I don't know?
They are supposed to make life easier as they get updated not harder.
Cheers
Humphrey

 


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Re: Moving variables

Langston, Eric

George-

 

I’m very glad to help!  And I will certainly help clarify.

 

You do need to restate all the variables occurring before the point where you want to drop the variable – but you can also use a shortcut for that (you can use TO in the keep subcommand).  Suppose that you wanted to move v151 to after v10.  Here’s the syntax:

 

match files file=*

/keep v1 to v10 v151 all.

exe.

 

Does that help?

 

-Eric

 

 

 

From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:12 AM
To: [hidden email]; Langston, Eric
Subject: Re: Moving variables

 

Eric,

 

Thanks very much for this - it is invaluable to me as I drag and drop variables quite frequently and explains the "different" SPSS behavior through the last few versions.

 

Can you clarify 1 further point?  If I need to drop a variable in the middle of the file you recommend using the "keep" syntax.  Do I need to restate all the variables occurring before the point where I want to drop that variable in the keep statement?  Or is there an easier way?

 

Thanks,

George

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From: Langston, Eric <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Moving variables
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 11:01 AM

Humphrey

 

Dragging and dropping variables became more cumbersome starting in v16 and hasn’t gotten much better in v18. I have spoken to SPSS support about this and they gave me a bit of help, though there was still a bit that was unresolved.

 

If you are going to drag and drop variables, it is better to do so in Variable View rather than Data View – that is to say, it is better to drag and drop when the variables look like rows rather than columns.  For whatever reason, it is less processor intensive and the overall behavior of the GUI is easier to work with when in Variable View. 

 

The issue that I noticed between “pre v16” (v15 and earlier) and “post v16” (v16, v17, v18) was the speed with which you can drag the variables.  In “pre v16”, if you drag a variable from the end of the file to the beginning of the file, the drag speed appears to have an acceleration and a max speed – for lack of a specific value, I’ll just call it “very fast”.  In “post v16”, if you drag a variable from the end of the file to the beginning of the file, the drag speed appears to not have an acceleration and the speed is “pretty slow”.  There is a significant change in GUI behavior as well.  In “pre v16”, you can drag your cursor arrow the top of the screen in Variable View (or the left of the screen in Data View) – which triggers the “very fast” drag speed.  In “post v16”, you can only drag your cursor to the top of the area that displays the variables (or the left of the area that displays the data).  After you pass that ‘line’ in Variable View, then the drag speed comes to an immediate halt if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable number OR it jumps to the beginning of the file if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable name, type, etc.   After you pass that ‘line’ in Data View, then the drag speed comes to an immediate halt if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable name OR it jumps to the beginning of the file if your cursor is in the area that shows your data.  The “jumps to the beginning of the file” behavior does not work for going to the end of the file.

 

Also in “post v16”, if you are dragging and dropping variables in Data View, selecting multiple columns doesn’t always work on the first try.  Specifically, if I drag a drop a variable (putting v4 before v3 for example), then I can’t immediately select multiple variables.  This gets a bit confusing with just words, so here’s an example with variables names.  Suppose I have v1 through v10 in the usual order.  Suppose I want to move v4 before v3 and then I want to move v5 through v8 before v2.  If I first move v4 before v3, I cannot immediately select v5 & v6.  I would first have to select some other variable – but not the variable that I want to start dragging from.  So, select v7.  Then, select v5 through  v8 and drag them to before v2.  I am not sure if there are other circumstances that you can’t immediately select multiple variables in Data View, but this is at least one that I can replicate.

 

So, if you just need to move variables a short distance, then drag and drop is fine.  If you need to move a variable to the beginning of a file, then drag and drop is fine.  If you need to move a variable to the middle or end of the file, then you should use the syntax Ruben suggested.  This, by the way, is the bit that was unresolved that I made reference to, because the drag and drop functionality was previously able to handle this case in a timely manner, but is now best suited to be handled via syntax.

 

I hope that helps,

-Eric

 

 

 

 

 

Syntax to define a file with 1001 variables – just so you can play around with moving variables a long distance.

 

new file.

data list /First 1.

begin data

1

end data.

dataset name temp window=front.

vector v (F8.0, 1000).

 

 

 

 

 

From: Ruben van den Berg [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Moving variables

 

Dear Humphrey,
 
I was unable to replicate your finding. In data view, I can select one or many columns (variables) and drag and drop them in order to move them. When I have selected them and keep my (left) mouse button pressed, an icon appears that suggests that this is a useless action but I can drag and drop them anyway, both in V17.0.3 as well as in v18.0.0.
 
However, in order to change the order of variables in a dataset I'd always use
 
match files file *
/keep v1 v3 v2.
execute.
 
Since some syntax depends on the order of your variables, it may be wise to include a reordering of your variables in your syntax so your work stays replicable.
 
Best regards and have a shiny happy weekend!

Ruben van den Berg

Methodologist

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Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:07:53 -0700
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Subject: Moving variables
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Dear all,
I have just installed SPSS 18. I was using 15 before.
In the 18 version when you want to move the verablies across from one column to another with the arrow, it seems that you need to to it one by one. It doesn't allow you to highlight all of them and do it all in one click. This is a nuisance when you have  200 variables. Is there a trick for this that I don't know?
They are supposed to make life easier as they get updated not harder.
Cheers
Humphrey

 


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Re: Moving variables

DataMaestro
Eric,
 
Great, got it.  I didn't realize that "TO" worked inside the keep.
 
Thanks,
George

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From: Langston, Eric <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Moving variables
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Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 11:15 AM

George-

 

I’m very glad to help!  And I will certainly help clarify.

 

You do need to restate all the variables occurring before the point where you want to drop the variable – but you can also use a shortcut for that (you can use TO in the keep subcommand).  Suppose that you wanted to move v151 to after v10.  Here’s the syntax:

 

match files file=*

/keep v1 to v10 v151 all.

exe.

 

Does that help?

 

-Eric

 

 

 

From: George Musick [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:12 AM
To: [hidden email]; Langston, Eric
Subject: Re: Moving variables

 

Eric,

 

Thanks very much for this - it is invaluable to me as I drag and drop variables quite frequently and explains the "different" SPSS behavior through the last few versions.

 

Can you clarify 1 further point?  If I need to drop a variable in the middle of the file you recommend using the "keep" syntax.  Do I need to restate all the variables occurring before the point where I want to drop that variable in the keep statement?  Or is there an easier way?

 

Thanks,

George

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Langston, Eric <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Langston, Eric <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Moving variables
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 11:01 AM

Humphrey

 

Dragging and dropping variables became more cumbersome starting in v16 and hasn’t gotten much better in v18. I have spoken to SPSS support about this and they gave me a bit of help, though there was still a bit that was unresolved.

 

If you are going to drag and drop variables, it is better to do so in Variable View rather than Data View – that is to say, it is better to drag and drop when the variables look like rows rather than columns.  For whatever reason, it is less processor intensive and the overall behavior of the GUI is easier to work with when in Variable View. 

 

The issue that I noticed between “pre v16” (v15 and earlier) and “post v16” (v16, v17, v18) was the speed with which you can drag the variables.  In “pre v16”, if you drag a variable from the end of the file to the beginning of the file, the drag speed appears to have an acceleration and a max speed – for lack of a specific value, I’ll just call it “very fast”.  In “post v16”, if you drag a variable from the end of the file to the beginning of the file, the drag speed appears to not have an acceleration and the speed is “pretty slow”.  There is a significant change in GUI behavior as well.  In “pre v16”, you can drag your cursor arrow the top of the screen in Variable View (or the left of the screen in Data View) – which triggers the “very fast” drag speed.  In “post v16”, you can only drag your cursor to the top of the area that displays the variables (or the left of the area that displays the data).  After you pass that ‘line’ in Variable View, then the drag speed comes to an immediate halt if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable number OR it jumps to the beginning of the file if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable name, type, etc.   After you pass that ‘line’ in Data View, then the drag speed comes to an immediate halt if your cursor is in the area that shows the variable name OR it jumps to the beginning of the file if your cursor is in the area that shows your data.  The “jumps to the beginning of the file” behavior does not work for going to the end of the file.

 

Also in “post v16”, if you are dragging and dropping variables in Data View, selecting multiple columns doesn’t always work on the first try.  Specifically, if I drag a drop a variable (putting v4 before v3 for example), then I can’t immediately select multiple variables.  This gets a bit confusing with just words, so here’s an example with variables names.  Suppose I have v1 through v10 in the usual order.  Suppose I want to move v4 before v3 and then I want to move v5 through v8 before v2.  If I first move v4 before v3, I cannot immediately select v5 & v6.  I would first have to select some other variable – but not the variable that I want to start dragging from.  So, select v7.  Then, select v5 through  v8 and drag them to before v2.  I am not sure if there are other circumstances that you can’t immediately select multiple variables in Data View, but this is at least one that I can replicate.

 

So, if you just need to move variables a short distance, then drag and drop is fine.  If you need to move a variable to the beginning of a file, then drag and drop is fine.  If you need to move a variable to the middle or end of the file, then you should use the syntax Ruben suggested.  This, by the way, is the bit that was unresolved that I made reference to, because the drag and drop functionality was previously able to handle this case in a timely manner, but is now best suited to be handled via syntax.

 

I hope that helps,

-Eric

 

 

 

 

 

Syntax to define a file with 1001 variables – just so you can play around with moving variables a long distance.

 

new file.

data list /First 1.

begin data

1

end data.

dataset name temp window=front.

vector v (F8.0, 1000).

 

 

 

 

 

From: Ruben van den Berg [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Moving variables

 

Dear Humphrey,
 
I was unable to replicate your finding. In data view, I can select one or many columns (variables) and drag and drop them in order to move them. When I have selected them and keep my (left) mouse button pressed, an icon appears that suggests that this is a useless action but I can drag and drop them anyway, both in V17.0.3 as well as in v18.0.0.
 
However, in order to change the order of variables in a dataset I'd always use
 
match files file *
/keep v1 v3 v2.
execute.
 
Since some syntax depends on the order of your variables, it may be wise to include a reordering of your variables in your syntax so your work stays replicable.
 
Best regards and have a shiny happy weekend!

Ruben van den Berg

Methodologist

TNS NIPO

E: ruben_van_den_berg@...

P: +31 20 522 5738

I: www.tns-nipo.com




 


Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:07:53 -0700
From: [hidden email]
Subject: Moving variables
To: [hidden email]


Dear all,
I have just installed SPSS 18. I was using 15 before.
In the 18 version when you want to move the verablies across from one column to another with the arrow, it seems that you need to to it one by one. It doesn't allow you to highlight all of them and do it all in one click. This is a nuisance when you have  200 variables. Is there a trick for this that I don't know?
They are supposed to make life easier as they get updated not harder.
Cheers
Humphrey

 


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Re: Comparing standard deviations

Humphrey Paulie
In reply to this post by Lukas Fehrenbach-2
I googled CV and found out that it can only be used for ratio scale data. But test scores are  interval. Any Comments?
Humphrey

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Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 10:00 AM

This is a better link, where you can download the complete paper mentioned above

http://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/31993

Lukas Fehrenbach




2010/6/1 Marta García-Granero <mgarciagranero@...>
I agree with William. You should compare CV.

Take a look at this paper (sorry, you'll have to download each page one
by one...).

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?seq=3&view=pdf&size=100&id=umn.31951d03009506q&u=1&num=1

HTH,
Marta GG

Humphrey Paulie escribió:


Dear all,

I have several tests which have different number of questions (from 20
to 100) so the maximum possible score on each test form is different.
Therefore, I cannot compare the standard deviations of the samples who
have taken each test form. What can I do to bring the standard
deviations onto the same scale and make them comparable? I want to
know which test has spread the subjectes more widely.

Cheers

Humphrey






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