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I recently had version 22 loaded onto my computer. When I read in files created on version 19 the variable field sizes change. For example, I have an institutional ID field which was seven characters long (because it is seven characters
long) is now shown as being 18 characters. Fields that were one character in length are three, or more, characters now. Every field has been changed. This creates a problem when attempting to join files based on a key variable. Has anyone else experienced this? Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University |
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It's likely to do with the file being saved in Unicode format. You could read/save the file in local encoding which would overcome this but there could potentially be loss of information if file contains characters from foreign languages.
HTH, Jignesh On 9 December 2013 15:42, Arthur Kramer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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By default, the application is running
in Unicode mode. You are reading code page data files and string widths
are tripled. You can switch to code page mode and strings won't be tripled.
Rick Oliver Senior Information Developer IBM Business Analytics (SPSS) E-mail: [hidden email] From: Arthur Kramer <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email], Date: 12/09/2013 09:42 AM Subject: version 22 Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> I recently had version 22 loaded onto my computer. When I read in files created on version 19 the variable field sizes change. For example, I have an institutional ID field which was seven characters long (because it is seven characters long) is now shown as being 18 characters. Fields that were one character in length are three, or more, characters now. Every field has been changed. This creates a problem when attempting to join files based on a key variable. Has anyone else experienced this? Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University |
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Thanks, Jignesh, but the directions at the link says to look for ‘Character Encoding for Data and Syntax’. That option is not listed on the Options>General
drop-down. Would the ‘Apply locale’s digit grouping format to numeric values’ be the same thing? Thanks for your help. Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of J Sutar It's likely to do with the file being saved in Unicode format. You could read/save the file in local encoding which would overcome this but there could potentially be loss of information if file contains characters from foreign languages. HTH, Jignesh On 9 December 2013 15:42, Arthur Kramer <[hidden email]> wrote: I recently had version 22 loaded onto my computer. When I read in files created on version 19 the variable field sizes change. For example, I have an institutional ID field which
was seven characters long (because it is seven characters long) is now shown as being 18 characters. Fields that were one character in length are three, or more, characters now. Every field has been changed. This creates a problem when attempting to join
files based on a key variable. Has anyone else experienced this? Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University |
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What happens if you run this after launching SPSS (i.e., with an empty dataset)?
SET DIGITGROUPING=No Small=0.0001 Unicode=No OLang=English.
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The Options dialog was redesigned for V22,
and this setting is now found on the Language tab.
When you first launched V22, you were presented with a dialog that pointed out that Unicode was the default and pointed to a more detailed discussion. Please look at the help on that topic before deciding whether to stick with code page encodings or move to Unicode. See the Character Encoding and Locale help topic under Options > Language Options. Jon Peck (no "h") aka Kim Senior Software Engineer, IBM [hidden email] phone: 720-342-5621 From: Arthur Kramer <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email], Date: 12/09/2013 09:18 AM Subject: Re: [SPSSX-L] version 22 Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> Thanks, Jignesh, but the directions at the link says to look for ‘Character Encoding for Data and Syntax’. That option is not listed on the Options>General drop-down. Would the ‘Apply locale’s digit grouping format to numeric values’ be the same thing? Thanks for your help. Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University From: [hidden email] [mailto:jignesh.sutar@...] On Behalf Of J Sutar Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:59 AM To: Arthur Kramer Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: version 22 It's likely to do with the file being saved in Unicode format. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21502287 You could read/save the file in local encoding which would overcome this but there could potentially be loss of information if file contains characters from foreign languages. HTH, Jignesh On 9 December 2013 15:42, Arthur Kramer <akramer@...> wrote: I recently had version 22 loaded onto my computer. When I read in files created on version 19 the variable field sizes change. For example, I have an institutional ID field which was seven characters long (because it is seven characters long) is now shown as being 18 characters. Fields that were one character in length are three, or more, characters now. Every field has been changed. This creates a problem when attempting to join files based on a key variable. Has anyone else experienced this? Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University |
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http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/spssstat/v22r0m0/topic/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/spss/base/faq_unicode.htm
Rick Oliver Senior Information Developer IBM Business Analytics (SPSS) E-mail: [hidden email] From: Arthur Kramer <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email], Date: 12/09/2013 10:17 AM Subject: Re: version 22 Sent by: "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <[hidden email]> Thanks, Jignesh, but the directions at the link says to look for ‘Character Encoding for Data and Syntax’. That option is not listed on the Options>General drop-down. Would the ‘Apply locale’s digit grouping format to numeric values’ be the same thing? Thanks for your help. Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University From: [hidden email] [mailto:jignesh.sutar@...] On Behalf Of J Sutar Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:59 AM To: Arthur Kramer Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: version 22 It's likely to do with the file being saved in Unicode format. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21502287 You could read/save the file in local encoding which would overcome this but there could potentially be loss of information if file contains characters from foreign languages. HTH, Jignesh On 9 December 2013 15:42, Arthur Kramer <akramer@...> wrote: I recently had version 22 loaded onto my computer. When I read in files created on version 19 the variable field sizes change. For example, I have an institutional ID field which was seven characters long (because it is seven characters long) is now shown as being 18 characters. Fields that were one character in length are three, or more, characters now. Every field has been changed. This creates a problem when attempting to join files based on a key variable. Has anyone else experienced this? Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University |
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Yes. Thank you Jon, and everybody else who sent me information. Rick Oliver, at IBM, sent this link
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/spssstat/v22r0m0/topic/com.ibm.spss.statistics.help/spss/base/faq_unicode.htm
which has the instructions, as well. Thank you, again. Arthur Kramer, PhD Director of Institutional Research New Jersey City University From: Jon K Peck [mailto:[hidden email]]
The Options dialog was redesigned for V22, and this setting is now found on the Language tab.
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